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Electrical Wiring - Basic or ?
I've just come across about 3 or 4 wall outlets in my parent's home that are
of the style that will only receive a male plug of 2 prongs. What is involved in replacing the box innards with the receptacle that will take the male plug of 3 prongs (2 plus the third below and in the middle)? My recollection from school days is that the major difference is the addition of a ground wire to a screw in the middle of the receptacle. Or, am I thinking of something altogether different. The rest of their house has the 3 prong receptacles so this really is a bit of a mystery. Charlie. |
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this is very common in homes built during the 50's and early 60's. the
actual wire is 3 conductor, however, the 'electricians' back then did not fully understand the concept of alternate grounding. often, the ground wire was cut, left coiled in the box and generally ignored as old stocks of 2 prong outlets got used up. dad told me that grounded outlets cost ten cents and ungrounded were six. Remember too that most builders back then were postmen, government clerks, etc., that moonlighted as homebuilders when the need arose. "Charlie" wrote in message news:x6xhe.1354018$Xk.800039@pd7tw3no... I've just come across about 3 or 4 wall outlets in my parent's home that are of the style that will only receive a male plug of 2 prongs. What is involved in replacing the box innards with the receptacle that will take the male plug of 3 prongs (2 plus the third below and in the middle)? My recollection from school days is that the major difference is the addition of a ground wire to a screw in the middle of the receptacle. Or, am I thinking of something altogether different. The rest of their house has the 3 prong receptacles so this really is a bit of a mystery. Charlie. |
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In article x6xhe.1354018$Xk.800039@pd7tw3no, "Charlie" wrote:
I've just come across about 3 or 4 wall outlets in my parent's home that are of the style that will only receive a male plug of 2 prongs. What is involved in replacing the box innards with the receptacle that will take the male plug of 3 prongs (2 plus the third below and in the middle)? My recollection from school days is that the major difference is the addition of a ground wire to a screw in the middle of the receptacle. Or, am I thinking of something altogether different. The rest of their house has the 3 prong receptacles so this really is a bit of a mystery. If the cable supplying the receptacles has three conductors (two insulated and one bare), you're home free: just install 3-prong (grounded) receptacles as follows: - black wire to gold-colored screw terminal - white wire to silver-colored screw terminal - bare wire to green screw terminal and you're done. If the cable has only two conductors (both insulated), you have two choices: 1) Leave them alone. They work. The only problem is, you can't plug a grounded device into them. 2) Replace them with ground-fault circuit interrupter receptacles. You will need one GFCI per circuit, installed in the location that is *electrically* nearest the breaker box, and connected so as to protect the remainder of the circuit (full instructions are included with the GFCI). Other 2-prong receptacles on that circuit can be replaced with 3-prong receptacles wired as I described above, except that you don't connect the ground wire (since there isn't one). *** NOTE *** All of the receptacles, including the GFCI, must then be marked "No Equipment Ground" using the sticky labels that come inside the package with the GFCI. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt. And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time? |
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"Doug Miller" wrote in message ... If the cable supplying the receptacles has three conductors (two insulated and one bare), you're home free: just install 3-prong (grounded) receptacles as follows: - black wire to gold-colored screw terminal - white wire to silver-colored screw terminal - bare wire to green screw terminal and you're done. He's not done, is he, until he checks to make sure that the other end of the bare wire(s) is attached to the proper place in the panel, and is actually acting as it should? You never know what someone has done ahead of you. An $8 circuit tester to check all the receptacles in the house might be smart, just to see if they are wired correctly. It's a cheap, self-empowering investment. They are also handy just to see if a circuit is live. RJ |
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In article , "Backlash" wrote:
"Doug Miller" wrote in message m... If the cable supplying the receptacles has three conductors (two insulated and one bare), you're home free: just install 3-prong (grounded) receptacles as follows: - black wire to gold-colored screw terminal - white wire to silver-colored screw terminal - bare wire to green screw terminal and you're done. He's not done, is he, until he checks to make sure that the other end of the bare wire(s) is attached to the proper place in the panel, and is actually acting as it should? You never know what someone has done ahead of you. An $8 circuit tester to check all the receptacles in the house might be smart, just to see if they are wired correctly. It's a cheap, self-empowering investment. They are also handy just to see if a circuit is live. Point well taken. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt. And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time? |
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"Doug Miller" wrote in message ... In article x6xhe.1354018$Xk.800039@pd7tw3no, "Charlie" wrote: I've just come across about 3 or 4 wall outlets in my parent's home that are of the style that will only receive a male plug of 2 prongs. What is involved in replacing the box innards with the receptacle that will take the male plug of 3 prongs (2 plus the third below and in the middle)? My recollection from school days is that the major difference is the addition of a ground wire to a screw in the middle of the receptacle. Or, am I thinking of something altogether different. The rest of their house has the 3 prong receptacles so this really is a bit of a mystery. If the cable supplying the receptacles has three conductors (two insulated and one bare), you're home free: just install 3-prong (grounded) receptacles as follows: - black wire to gold-colored screw terminal - white wire to silver-colored screw terminal - bare wire to green screw terminal and you're done. Many thanks. Each of the 4 boxes had the 3 conductors so it just took me about an hour or so to replace the innards. Charlie. If the cable has only two conductors (both insulated), you have two choices: 1) Leave them alone. They work. The only problem is, you can't plug a grounded device into them. 2) Replace them with ground-fault circuit interrupter receptacles. You will need one GFCI per circuit, installed in the location that is *electrically* nearest the breaker box, and connected so as to protect the remainder of the circuit (full instructions are included with the GFCI). Other 2-prong receptacles on that circuit can be replaced with 3-prong receptacles wired as I described above, except that you don't connect the ground wire (since there isn't one). *** NOTE *** All of the receptacles, including the GFCI, must then be marked "No Equipment Ground" using the sticky labels that come inside the package with the GFCI. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt. And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time? |
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