Some one obviously condemmned spot coolers already I take it?
Noon-Air wrote:
sigh
I don't know why the OP wants to spend all his time and money on
something
that not only won't work, but will most likely get him evicted too. I
was in
Sams Club yesterday and they had a window shaker for *LESS* than the
price
of a service call.....even had an 18,000btu unit for less than $275!!
Seems that if there is no A/C in the guys apartment, and the
management
won't put it in, and won't approve window units, then he has 2
options... a
mini-split, or MOVE.
If I was the owner/landlord and some bonehead started screwing with
the
plumbing in my building, not only would he be out on his ass, but he
would
also be facing civil and criminal charges, not to mention paying to
have
everything put back to its original configuration.

--

Steve @ Noon-Air Heating & A/C


Why can't Mr Fork and
Ms Electrical Outlet just get along?

"Steve Scott" wrote in message
...
FWIW, the formula for the area of a circle is pi x (r x r). 1"
copper
holds about 0.045 gal/ft.

On Tue, 03 May 2005 05:23:54 GMT, "CM" wrote:

The volume of water in the pipe is ((inner dia./2) x pi) x length,
so
assuming a large 1" inner dia. x 10' would equal (1/2 x
3.141592...) x 120
= 188.4955 cu. in., 1 US gallon is 231 cu. in., so that 10' pipe is
about
0.816 gallons.


--
Be consistent - but don't do it all
the time.

I simply ass-u-me d that being as how he's trying to rig something that he
figures he can do for little to nothing, when in reality, its gonna cost a
lot more than a window shaker for $77, that he surely won't spend the $$$
for a spot cooler.
maybe I'm wrong, I would love to be proved wrong, but I don't believe that
it going to happen.

"Abby Normal" wrote in message
oups.com...
Some one obviously condemmned spot coolers already I take it?
Noon-Air wrote:
sigh
I don't know why the OP wants to spend all his time and money on
something
that not only won't work, but will most likely get him evicted too. I
was in
Sams Club yesterday and they had a window shaker for *LESS* than the
price
of a service call.....even had an 18,000btu unit for less than $275!!
Seems that if there is no A/C in the guys apartment, and the
management
won't put it in, and won't approve window units, then he has 2
options... a
mini-split, or MOVE.
If I was the owner/landlord and some bonehead started screwing with
the
plumbing in my building, not only would he be out on his ass, but he
would
also be facing civil and criminal charges, not to mention paying to
have
everything put back to its original configuration.

--

Steve @ Noon-Air Heating & A/C


Why can't Mr Fork and
Ms Electrical Outlet just get along?

"Steve Scott" wrote in message
...
FWIW, the formula for the area of a circle is pi x (r x r). 1"
copper
holds about 0.045 gal/ft.

On Tue, 03 May 2005 05:23:54 GMT, "CM" wrote:

The volume of water in the pipe is ((inner dia./2) x pi) x length,
so
assuming a large 1" inner dia. x 10' would equal (1/2 x
3.141592...) x 120
= 188.4955 cu. in., 1 US gallon is 231 cu. in., so that 10' pipe is
about
0.816 gallons.


--
Be consistent - but don't do it all
the time.

Noon-Air wrote:

I don't know why the OP wants to spend all his time and money on something
that not only won't work...

What makes you think it won't heat water with half the usual energy,
with free AC as a side benefit?

...I was in Sams Club yesterday and they had a window shaker for *LESS*
than the price of a service call...

The best I've seen so far this year is a $69 5340 Btu/h 10.2 SEER Daewoo
at a local Shop-Rite supermarket. I wonder what Costco's selling.

Nick

Noon-Air wrote:
sigh
I don't know why the OP wants to spend all his time and money on
something
that not only won't work, but will most likely get him evicted too.

Read any of the last few posts I've made, and you'll find that I've
already settled on an alternative plan (read in one of the groups other
than alt.HVAC, I stopped posting there). If I use something similar to
what Nick is talking about, it will just be a regular desuperheater.
That might happen in my OWN house, but not at this apartment.

I was in
Sams Club yesterday and they had a window shaker for *LESS* than the
price
of a service call.....even had an 18,000btu unit for less than $275!!
Seems that if there is no A/C in the guys apartment, and the
management
won't put it in, and won't approve window units, then he has 2
options... a
mini-split, or MOVE.

What I'm going to be using is fairly similar to a mini-split. It's
similar at least in the fact that most of the equipment goes outside,
and the air handling unit goes inside. I was originally looking at
those marine water-circulating ACs and portable water-cooled AC's. But
recently, I found a nice 36,000 BTU swimming pool heat pump
(reversible) for about a grand. It's really not that big, and I'm
putting it outside. Small flexible water/glycol lines run inside, in a
closed loop. Right now I'm working on making a semi-aesthetic enclosure
to mount a fan-assisted radiator in.

The nice part about a water/glycol system like this is that it's easy
to seperate into different zones, each with different flow rates of
water/glycol. Also, I could install a large tank of water for
additional thermal mass. Then, the compressor cycles are longer and
farther in between. The indoor temperature can be maintained at a
constant level by adjusting the flow rate of water, if that is even
necessary.

If the tank of water was really large, I could even slow down the
indoor air-handling units at night, but continue to cool the water tank
all night. Electricity is cheaper at night, plus the AC would have an
easier time cooling the water to a given temperature, since the outdoor
temperature is lower at night long. I have a feeling I won't make a
tank big enough to really take advantage of this benefit, though. It
would require space that I just don't have.

If I was the owner/landlord and some bonehead started screwing with
the
plumbing in my building, not only would he be out on his ass, but he
would
also be facing civil and criminal charges, not to mention paying to
have
everything put back to its original configuration.

And regarding the comment about spot cooling: as I said multiple times,
I already have a 10,000 BTU portable unit. I doesn't work very well
(probably because the exhaust air creates a vacuum inside, and sucks
hot air in from cracks in the window/door gaskets).