Hi,

Will be calling in HVAC contractor to plumb in a new gas kitchen stove.

Presumably, he knows how to do it.
Would like to learn a bit more about how it's done beforehand.

So was wondering:

With rigid gas line pipe, and the stove constrained to fit in the 30"
opening, how can
a rigid pipe gas line ever be made to fit without using some kind of
adjustable "something," or
a flex line (which the town gas inspector doesn't want).

Is it all done by "precise" measurements, or is there some kind of length
adjustable union
or whatever that is used ?

Thanks,
Bob

"Robert11" wrote in message

With rigid gas line pipe, and the stove constrained to fit in the 30"
opening, how can
a rigid pipe gas line ever be made to fit without using some kind of
adjustable "something," or
a flex line (which the town gas inspector doesn't want).

Is it all done by "precise" measurements, or is there some kind of length
adjustable union
or whatever that is used ?

Precise can be within a 1/4". It takes a little practice and experience.
Most places allow flex for a stove so it can be moved.

"Robert11" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Will be calling in HVAC contractor to plumb in a new gas kitchen stove.

Presumably, he knows how to do it.
Would like to learn a bit more about how it's done beforehand.

God..I HOPE he knows how to do it...
Here, our HVAC licence includes the Pipe Fitters card, so we have to know
what we are doing...
Now..if he can put that knowledge to use....well..LOL...
Just kidding there..



So was wondering:

With rigid gas line pipe, and the stove constrained to fit in the 30"
opening, how can
a rigid pipe gas line ever be made to fit without using some kind of
adjustable "something," or
a flex line (which the town gas inspector doesn't want).

If your town is going by International Gas Code, as most are now, a
stainless flex line is permitted, and if your HVAC guy is well versed in
this, he will prob come off the stove with a short section of iron pipe and
go into a secondary regulator per that code, and then go to something like
TracPipe. TracPipe and the related products are 100% permitted in ALL
jurisdictions and can cut the time to install a gas line down greatly.


Is it all done by "precise" measurements, or is there some kind of length
adjustable union
or whatever that is used ?


IF your inspector demands hard pipe the entire way, first, I would suggest
he get with the program, and learn that stainless steel flex gas line is
permissible, and then, before he kills the entire project cause you just
argued with God in his mind (lol) let the guy run the iron pipe. Normally,
an experenced pipefitter can get it to within 1/8th to a 1/4 inch with no
problems. The problem I see here is how in hell you gonna be able to move
the stove with it black piped all the way out? That would NEVER fly here.

Thanks,
Bob

"Steve@carolinabreezehvac" wrote

IF your inspector demands hard pipe the entire way, first, I would suggest
he get with the program, and learn that stainless steel flex gas line is
permissible, and then, before he kills the entire project cause you just
argued with God in his mind (lol) let the guy run the iron pipe. Normally,
an experenced pipefitter can get it to within 1/8th to a 1/4 inch with no
problems. The problem I see here is how in hell you gonna be able to move
the stove with it black piped all the way out? That would NEVER fly here.

Thanks,
Bob

Totally agree with you. The flex should also be long enough to get the range
out for cleaning. I can tell you though, if you have to pull one out for
repair, you'll probably be the first to do it.

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On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:41:40 -0400, "Steve@carolinabreezehvac"
wrote:


"Robert11" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Will be calling in HVAC contractor to plumb in a new gas kitchen stove.

Presumably, he knows how to do it.
Would like to learn a bit more about how it's done beforehand.

God..I HOPE he knows how to do it...
Here, our HVAC licence includes the Pipe Fitters card, so we have to know
what we are doing...
Now..if he can put that knowledge to use....well..LOL...
Just kidding there..

Well you know what they say. "Those who can do, those who can't post
endlessly
to news groups"


And those without a f*ckin clue try to slam those that know the facts.

yea..I know about that...your credentials in business are?

You also know the one about how stupid ass comments towards a poster to get
a rise out of them is like the Special Olympics right?
You might win, but you are still retarded.

"Steve@carolinabreezehvac" wrote in
message ...

wrote in message
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On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:41:40 -0400, "Steve@carolinabreezehvac"
wrote:


"Robert11" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Will be calling in HVAC contractor to plumb in a new gas kitchen stove.

Presumably, he knows how to do it.
Would like to learn a bit more about how it's done beforehand.

God..I HOPE he knows how to do it...
Here, our HVAC licence includes the Pipe Fitters card, so we have to know
what we are doing...
Now..if he can put that knowledge to use....well..LOL...
Just kidding there..

Well you know what they say. "Those who can do, those who can't post
endlessly
to news groups"


And those without a f*ckin clue try to slam those that know the facts.

yea..I know about that...your credentials in business are?

You also know the one about how stupid ass comments towards a poster to get
a rise out of them is like the Special Olympics right?
You might win, but you are still retarded.


This is Turtle.

I totally agree with you and you just did it. The last part about calling him a
retard was a good one. Can I use that one the next time you call me a idoit and
hack to get the best of me or do you need Pauls permission to do so?

Now are you tring to bring the Scum of alt.hvac over to alt.home.repair are you
now ?

TURTLE

TURTLE wrote:
....
When you respond you only enable their misbehavior over here. Please be
responsible and don't do that.

--
Joe

Hello:

Thanks for all the info.

Might someone please expund a little on what one of the posters mentioned
regarding
going to a "secondary regulator" before entering the stove ?

Isn't the pressure correct from the main reducer/regulator that's outside
the house?
Why a second one required ?

thanks again,
Bob
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"Robert11" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Will be calling in HVAC contractor to plumb in a new gas kitchen stove.

Presumably, he knows how to do it.
Would like to learn a bit more about how it's done beforehand.

So was wondering:

With rigid gas line pipe, and the stove constrained to fit in the 30"
opening, how can
a rigid pipe gas line ever be made to fit without using some kind of
adjustable "something," or
a flex line (which the town gas inspector doesn't want).

Is it all done by "precise" measurements, or is there some kind of length
adjustable union
or whatever that is used ?

Thanks,
Bob

"Joe S" wrote in message
news:8hZ3e.1808$%b1.515@trnddc08...
TURTLE wrote:
...
When you respond you only enable their misbehavior over here. Please be
responsible and don't do that.

--
Joe

This is Turtle.

Yes your right but Paul and Steve knows that when you call me a hack and a
a**hole on the group with no reply. Some will see it as a good reply by some so
called respectiable newsgroup members that can lie straight faced and not laugh.
I had to reply up till now but have made my point and will just let them rave on
with the disrespect and lies.

TURTLE

"Robert11" wrote in message
...
Hello:

Thanks for all the info.

Might someone please expund a little on what one of the posters mentioned
regarding
going to a "secondary regulator" before entering the stove ?

Isn't the pressure correct from the main reducer/regulator that's outside
the house?
Why a second one required ?

thanks again,
Bob


Some, if not all jurisditions now require a regulator at the appliance.
Its cheap insurance...basically, its to insure should something go wrong
with the primary, you dont get a huge flame up when the pressure goes from
1/2lb to 5lbs while you are cooking..
ALL furnace installs should have one and like I said, its code iin many
areas, and just plain common sense in those that its not required.
A gas approved shut off valve should be within reach as well.

--------------


"Robert11" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Will be calling in HVAC contractor to plumb in a new gas kitchen stove.

Presumably, he knows how to do it.
Would like to learn a bit more about how it's done beforehand.

So was wondering:

With rigid gas line pipe, and the stove constrained to fit in the 30"
opening, how can
a rigid pipe gas line ever be made to fit without using some kind of
adjustable "something," or
a flex line (which the town gas inspector doesn't want).

Is it all done by "precise" measurements, or is there some kind of
length
adjustable union
or whatever that is used ?

Thanks,
Bob

"TURTLE" wrote in message
.. .

"Joe S" wrote in message
news:8hZ3e.1808$%b1.515@trnddc08...
TURTLE wrote:
...
When you respond you only enable their misbehavior over here. Please be
responsible and don't do that.

--
Joe

This is Turtle.

Yes your right but Paul and Steve knows that when you call me a hack and a
a**hole on the group with no reply. Some will see it as a good reply by
some so
called respectiable newsgroup members that can lie straight faced and not
laugh.
I had to reply up till now but have made my point and will just let them
rave on
with the disrespect and lies.

TURTLE



Terry, lighten up.
If you notice, I never got into your bull**** over in alt.hvac, and you can
thank Noon for that...
You dont get it here, and this isnt the place, but if you want to discuss it
over in alt.hvac, I would be glad to enlighten you.

TURTLE!

CALM DOWN!

I've been reading your posts for years and have the greatest
respect for you. That hasn't changed.

I consider you one of the nicest and sweetest and knowledgable
gentlemen I've ever read posts from. Keep up the helpful posts and
ignore those that malign you. Turn the other cheek. It has been
done by many other heroic figures in the past and I think you can do
it now. Reach down deep in your heart and try to forgive them.

But keep those helpful post coming. You have many supporters out
here that look forward to your every post.

JimL




On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 17:43:25 -0500, "TURTLE"
wrote:


"Joe S" wrote in message
news:8hZ3e.1808$%b1.515@trnddc08...
TURTLE wrote:
...
When you respond you only enable their misbehavior over here. Please be
responsible and don't do that.

--
Joe

This is Turtle.

Yes your right but Paul and Steve knows that when you call me a hack and a
a**hole on the group with no reply. Some will see it as a good reply by some so
called respectiable newsgroup members that can lie straight faced and not laugh.
I had to reply up till now but have made my point and will just let them rave on
with the disrespect and lies.

TURTLE

"TURTLE" wrote in message
.. .

"Joe S" wrote in message
news:8hZ3e.1808$%b1.515@trnddc08...
TURTLE wrote:
...
When you respond you only enable their misbehavior over here. Please be
responsible and don't do that.

--
Joe

This is Turtle.

Yes your right but Paul and Steve knows that when you call me a hack and a
a**hole on the group with no reply. Some will see it as a good reply by
some so
called respectiable newsgroup members that can lie straight faced and not
laugh.
I had to reply up till now but have made my point and will just let them
rave on
with the disrespect and lies.

TURTLE


Turtle, you are one of the greatest assets this group has. Anyone who reads
this group regularly knows who you are. You shed those negative comments
like water off a duck's back. You don't need to reply.

I once had a respected mentor who said that, "If a wise man argues with a
fool, few will know which is which".

--- SJF

"SJF" wrote in message
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"TURTLE" wrote in message
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"Joe S" wrote in message
news:8hZ3e.1808$%b1.515@trnddc08...
TURTLE wrote:
...
When you respond you only enable their misbehavior over here. Please
be
responsible and don't do that.

--
Joe

This is Turtle.

Yes your right but Paul and Steve knows that when you call me a hack and
a
a**hole on the group with no reply. Some will see it as a good reply by
some so
called respectiable newsgroup members that can lie straight faced and
not
laugh.
I had to reply up till now but have made my point and will just let them
rave on
with the disrespect and lies.

TURTLE


Turtle, you are one of the greatest assets this group has. Anyone who
reads
this group regularly knows who you are. You shed those negative comments
like water off a duck's back. You don't need to reply.

I once had a respected mentor who said that, "If a wise man argues with a
fool, few will know which is which".

--- SJF



Terrys unwilling to admit that I have tried and tried to get him to drop
things...this is where I have the most issue with him...he allows things to
get to normal, and suddenly, hes back on it.
Matt left hvac, and now its Terry and Bill again..
I do not always agree with Terry, he knows it, and thats fine, but he really
needs to understand, that most professionals, really do not trust him, his
advice, nor his way of conducting business, as hes admitted time and time
again to doing things wrong, and not caring if its right.
THATS the problem guys...
You take his advice...well, thats your problem.

"Steve@carolinabreezehvac" wrote in
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"TURTLE" wrote in message
.. .

"Joe S" wrote in message
news:8hZ3e.1808$%b1.515@trnddc08...
TURTLE wrote:
...
When you respond you only enable their misbehavior over here. Please be
responsible and don't do that.

--
Joe

This is Turtle.

Yes your right but Paul and Steve knows that when you call me a hack and a
a**hole on the group with no reply. Some will see it as a good reply by
some so
called respectiable newsgroup members that can lie straight faced and not
laugh.
I had to reply up till now but have made my point and will just let them
rave on
with the disrespect and lies.

TURTLE



Terry, lighten up.
If you notice, I never got into your bull**** over in alt.hvac, and you can
thank Noon for that...
You dont get it here, and this isnt the place, but if you want to discuss it
over in alt.hvac, I would be glad to enlighten you.


This is Turtle.

Please Do Enlighten me over at alt.hvac.

You are treading on thin ice when you say get into my bull****. This better be
good.

TURTLE