I had a chain link fence professionally installed. On one side of my
house I was told that I couldn't bring it to my property line because
it was needed for city drainage or something like that. So I told the
guys to keep it legal to avoid issues with the city. My loss of yard
is probably about 2 - 2.5 feet.

I go outside and notice the neighbor is putting fence posts in MY
yard. He did this without asking me if it was ok or even wondering why
I didn't bring the fence out to my property line. From his point of
view it may have seemed like the logical thing to do but he should of
asked.

I'm not really sure what to do about it. I sleep during the day and
haven't seen him around to talk. I don't really want to knock on his
door about it either because that might seem confrontational. I don't
think talking with him would do much anyway. Nice guy but very
unenlightened and does what he wants. He cut a whole in his bedroom to
install a patio door and built a deck onto that for a jacuzzi. I
thought it was a bit silly because all the houses here already have
patio doors from the kitchens which he did nothing with. My cousin
that builds decks for a living said it was the funniest thing he had
ever seen.

Anyway back on topic. I've heard rumors that after so many years with
a fence installed sometimes a person can make claim to your property.
I was kind of worried about this. Or what if the city does notice who
will be in trouble me or the neighbor? As I said talking to the guy
isnt going to matter. I don't care if he extends his fence to mine as
long as he is the one responsible if the city comes looking and
understands its my yard.

thanks

In article , JediSpork wrote:
I had a chain link fence professionally installed. On one side of my
house I was told that I couldn't bring it to my property line because
it was needed for city drainage or something like that. So I told the
guys to keep it legal to avoid issues with the city. My loss of yard
is probably about 2 - 2.5 feet.

I go outside and notice the neighbor is putting fence posts in MY
yard. He did this without asking me if it was ok or even wondering why
I didn't bring the fence out to my property line. From his point of
view it may have seemed like the logical thing to do but he should of
asked.

I'm not really sure what to do about it. I sleep during the day and
haven't seen him around to talk. I don't really want to knock on his
door about it either because that might seem confrontational. I don't
think talking with him would do much anyway. Nice guy but very
unenlightened and does what he wants. He cut a whole in his bedroom to
install a patio door and built a deck onto that for a jacuzzi. I
thought it was a bit silly because all the houses here already have
patio doors from the kitchens which he did nothing with. My cousin
that builds decks for a living said it was the funniest thing he had
ever seen.

Anyway back on topic. I've heard rumors that after so many years with
a fence installed sometimes a person can make claim to your property.
I was kind of worried about this. Or what if the city does notice who
will be in trouble me or the neighbor? As I said talking to the guy
isnt going to matter. I don't care if he extends his fence to mine as
long as he is the one responsible if the city comes looking and
understands its my yard.

thanks

Did he have permits for the deck ?
First, politely ask about the posts.
So the guy now has issues with the city right ??
Yo could be responsible if not resolved.
Does he really know the property line?

In article , (GregS) wrote:
In article ,
JediSpork wrote:
I had a chain link fence professionally installed. On one side of my
house I was told that I couldn't bring it to my property line because
it was needed for city drainage or something like that. So I told the
guys to keep it legal to avoid issues with the city. My loss of yard
is probably about 2 - 2.5 feet.

I go outside and notice the neighbor is putting fence posts in MY
yard. He did this without asking me if it was ok or even wondering why
I didn't bring the fence out to my property line. From his point of
view it may have seemed like the logical thing to do but he should of
asked.

I'm not really sure what to do about it. I sleep during the day and
haven't seen him around to talk. I don't really want to knock on his
door about it either because that might seem confrontational. I don't
think talking with him would do much anyway. Nice guy but very
unenlightened and does what he wants. He cut a whole in his bedroom to
install a patio door and built a deck onto that for a jacuzzi. I
thought it was a bit silly because all the houses here already have
patio doors from the kitchens which he did nothing with. My cousin
that builds decks for a living said it was the funniest thing he had
ever seen.

Anyway back on topic. I've heard rumors that after so many years with
a fence installed sometimes a person can make claim to your property.
I was kind of worried about this. Or what if the city does notice who
will be in trouble me or the neighbor? As I said talking to the guy
isnt going to matter. I don't care if he extends his fence to mine as
long as he is the one responsible if the city comes looking and
understands its my yard.

thanks

Did he have permits for the deck ?
First, politely ask about the posts.
So the guy now has issues with the city right ??
Yo could be responsible if not resolved.
Does he really know the property line?

I think the first question might be, why did
you install posts on my property?

In article , (GregS) wrote:
In article ,
(GregS) wrote:
In article
,
JediSpork wrote:
I had a chain link fence professionally installed. On one side of my
house I was told that I couldn't bring it to my property line because
it was needed for city drainage or something like that. So I told the
guys to keep it legal to avoid issues with the city. My loss of yard
is probably about 2 - 2.5 feet.

I go outside and notice the neighbor is putting fence posts in MY
yard. He did this without asking me if it was ok or even wondering why
I didn't bring the fence out to my property line. From his point of
view it may have seemed like the logical thing to do but he should of
asked.

I'm not really sure what to do about it. I sleep during the day and
haven't seen him around to talk. I don't really want to knock on his
door about it either because that might seem confrontational. I don't
think talking with him would do much anyway. Nice guy but very
unenlightened and does what he wants. He cut a whole in his bedroom to
install a patio door and built a deck onto that for a jacuzzi. I
thought it was a bit silly because all the houses here already have
patio doors from the kitchens which he did nothing with. My cousin
that builds decks for a living said it was the funniest thing he had
ever seen.

Anyway back on topic. I've heard rumors that after so many years with
a fence installed sometimes a person can make claim to your property.
I was kind of worried about this. Or what if the city does notice who
will be in trouble me or the neighbor? As I said talking to the guy
isnt going to matter. I don't care if he extends his fence to mine as
long as he is the one responsible if the city comes looking and
understands its my yard.

thanks

Did he have permits for the deck ?
First, politely ask about the posts.
So the guy now has issues with the city right ??
Yo could be responsible if not resolved.
Does he really know the property line?

I think the first question might be, why did
you install posts on my property?

Does he also need drainge right of way in his yard ?
Fisrt thought, I hate the look of chain link fence myself, maybe
he was trying to hide it.
If he agreed, it might take some talking to get him to move them.

Lastly, is the deck on the side with proper property line clearance,
or in the back.

In article , (GregS) wrote:
In article ,
(GregS) wrote:
In article ,
(GregS) wrote:
In article
,
JediSpork wrote:
I had a chain link fence professionally installed. On one side of my
house I was told that I couldn't bring it to my property line because
it was needed for city drainage or something like that. So I told the
guys to keep it legal to avoid issues with the city. My loss of yard
is probably about 2 - 2.5 feet.

I go outside and notice the neighbor is putting fence posts in MY
yard. He did this without asking me if it was ok or even wondering why
I didn't bring the fence out to my property line. From his point of
view it may have seemed like the logical thing to do but he should of
asked.

I'm not really sure what to do about it. I sleep during the day and
haven't seen him around to talk. I don't really want to knock on his
door about it either because that might seem confrontational. I don't
think talking with him would do much anyway. Nice guy but very
unenlightened and does what he wants. He cut a whole in his bedroom to
install a patio door and built a deck onto that for a jacuzzi. I
thought it was a bit silly because all the houses here already have
patio doors from the kitchens which he did nothing with. My cousin
that builds decks for a living said it was the funniest thing he had
ever seen.

Anyway back on topic. I've heard rumors that after so many years with
a fence installed sometimes a person can make claim to your property.
I was kind of worried about this. Or what if the city does notice who
will be in trouble me or the neighbor? As I said talking to the guy
isnt going to matter. I don't care if he extends his fence to mine as
long as he is the one responsible if the city comes looking and
understands its my yard.

thanks

Did he have permits for the deck ?
First, politely ask about the posts.
So the guy now has issues with the city right ??
Yo could be responsible if not resolved.
Does he really know the property line?

I think the first question might be, why did
you install posts on my property?

Does he also need drainge right of way in his yard ?
Fisrt thought, I hate the look of chain link fence myself, maybe
he was trying to hide it.
If he agreed, it might take some talking to get him to move them.

Nonsense. It doesn't matter what the neighbor thinks, or whether he likes the
look of a chain link fence or not. If he installed fenceposts on the OP's
property, he doesn't have any choice in the matter: they have to come out.

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:02:46 -0700 (PDT), against all advice,
something compelled JediSpork , to say:

I'm not really sure what to do about it.


I'd call the city. If they have reasons for keeping that ground
clear, they are probably good ones, and may affect you. Does the
water, sewer, phone, electricity, cable run under there? You
might be getting set up for more trouble than losing 2.5' of
lawn.



--

Don't worry about people stealing an idea. If it's original, you will
have to ram it down their throats.
- Howard Aiken

thanks for the replies. I was able to have a talk with my neighbor.
His intentions are to block the entrance to our backyards because
we've been having a lot of people swiping bikes and cutting through
yards. He isn't building another fence beside mine just blocking the
opening between houses. I told him thats fine with me but gave him a
warning that city regulations kept me from extending my fence to the
property line. I told him if the city comes around its his
responsibility if it has to go.

He seems to understand. I'm going to let it go for now . Even so the
guy should of talked to me first. I'm still a bit mad. I try my best
to remain neutral with neighbors. I don't want to be their best buddy
nor a enemy,

JediSpork wrote:

thanks for the replies. I was able to have a talk with my neighbor.
His intentions are to block the entrance to our backyards because
we've been having a lot of people swiping bikes and cutting through
yards. He isn't building another fence beside mine just blocking the
opening between houses. I told him thats fine with me but gave him a
warning that city regulations kept me from extending my fence to the
property line. I told him if the city comes around its his
responsibility if it has to go.

He seems to understand. I'm going to let it go for now . Even so the
guy should of talked to me first. I'm still a bit mad. I try my best
to remain neutral with neighbors. I don't want to be their best buddy
nor a enemy,

You need to talk to a lawyer because after a number of years, he will have an
easement. He will not own your property but you will have to let him keep the
fence up and use your property. You may have problems selling your house and
even problems with your town because our property may no longer meet zoning
requirements.

Best to get this straightened out now.

In article ,
Johnnie wrote:
JediSpork wrote:
[ ... ]
He seems to understand. I'm going to let it go for now . Even so the
guy should of talked to me first. I'm still a bit mad. I try my best
to remain neutral with neighbors. I don't want to be their best buddy
nor a enemy,

You need to talk to a lawyer because after a number of years, he will have an
easement. He will not own your property but you will have to let him keep the
fence up and use your property. You may have problems selling your house and
even problems with your town because our property may no longer meet zoning
requirements.

Under a concept called adverse possession, the neighbor _can_ end up
owning the property.

Personally, I'd stop by the neighbors' house and thank him for the nice
fence he's giving me by installing it on my property. Non-confrontational,
and quite likely to get it removed promptly.

Best to get this straightened out now.

Agreed.


Gary

--
Gary Heston http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/
"Where large, expensive pieces of exotic woods are converted to valueless,
hard to dispose of sawdust, chips and scraps." Charlie B.s' definition of
woodworking.

JediSpork wrote:
thanks for the replies. I was able to have a talk with my neighbor.
His intentions are to block the entrance to our backyards because
we've been having a lot of people swiping bikes and cutting through
yards. He isn't building another fence beside mine just blocking the
opening between houses. I told him thats fine with me but gave him a
warning that city regulations kept me from extending my fence to the
property line. I told him if the city comes around its his
responsibility if it has to go.

He seems to understand. I'm going to let it go for now . Even so the
guy should of talked to me first. I'm still a bit mad. I try my best
to remain neutral with neighbors. I don't want to be their best buddy
nor a enemy,

Get him to sign a statement to that effect to avoid future "hostile occupation"
claims.

Shawn Hirn wrote:

You need to consult with an attorney. Seriously.

You can Google the term "adverse posession your state" and then have a weekend
conversation with your neighbor. Bring him a beer and explain why you did the
offset and explain that he has installed his fence on your property and needs to
move it.

If he refuses, you can bring the attorney in.

Shawn Hirn wrote:

You need to consult with an attorney. Seriously.

You can Google the term "adverse posession your state" and then have a weekend
conversation with your neighbor. Bring him a beer and explain why you did the
offset and explain that he has installed his fence on your property and needs to
move it.

If he refuses, you can bring the attorney in.