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Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?
Can you help me get my Delta shower faucet apart so I can stop an annoying
drip? I'm stuck - I don't know how to get the shower faucet apart? - I removed the two bolts holding the back plate on - I removed the set screw holding the handle on - I removed the sleeve around the brass thing that turns And ... I'm basically stuck here ... I can't see what next to remove. I posted 15 pictures of the steps here http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaoh...7603940232052/ Can you help me with the next step to dissaembly of this Delta shower faucet? Thank you, Donna |
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Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?
I'm stuck - I don't know how to get the shower faucet apart?
I posted 15 pictures of the steps here http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaoh...7603940232052/ It might be hard to see the key pics so to help you help me, I just made extensive annotations of the pics for you to help me. This is basically where I started http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaoh...7603940232052/ And, this is basically where I'm stuck! http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaoh...7603940232052/ Do you know what next to remove to get this Delta shower faucet apart? Thanks, Donna |
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Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?
"Donna" wrote in message
... I'm stuck - I don't know how to get the shower faucet apart? I posted 15 pictures of the steps here http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaoh...7603940232052/ It might be hard to see the key pics so to help you help me, I just made extensive annotations of the pics for you to help me. This is basically where I started http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaoh...7603940232052/ And, this is basically where I'm stuck! http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaoh...7603940232052/ Do you know what next to remove to get this Delta shower faucet apart? Thanks, Donna Great picture, but I can't help. Try poking around he http://www.deltafaucet.com/wps/porta...VFLzZfMTlfM0pT Or, the shorter version: http://tinyurl.com/64rlmo |
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Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?
Donna,
Try going to Home Depot et al, and find the "kit" that repairs your faucet. Then you will be able to identify what needs to come out. Note that you will probably need to grab onto that metal post sticking out, with a pliers, and just pull it out, and whatever is attached to it (probably a valve). .Make sure you have removed whatever parts are holding the valve in before trying to pull it out. It might be hard to get out, even with all the obstructions removed. If the Delta is like other faucets, you just need to pull out the old "valve", and insert the new one. (PLus all the other parts) Around $15 to $20 at home depot probably. Great pictures, btw. |
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Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?
On Sun, 11 May 2008 14:07:46 -0700, Donna
wrote: I'm stuck - I don't know how to get the shower faucet apart? I posted 15 pictures of the steps here http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaoh...7603940232052/ It might be hard to see the key pics so to help you help me, I just made extensive annotations of the pics for you to help me. This is basically where I started http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaoh...7603940232052/ And, this is basically where I'm stuck! http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaoh...7603940232052/ Do you know what next to remove to get this Delta shower faucet apart? Thanks, Donna IIRC, you need to remove the escutcheon (The big silver plate that covers the hole) In behind it, you'll probably find a big U shaped brass or spring steel retainer clip that holds the plastic cartridge in place in the housing. Pull up on it to remove it. The little brass limit stop on the front of the white cartridge in you picture usually slips off, the cartridge gets set to the noon position, and with the retainer clip off, the cartridge slips right out coming forward. If you have to use any significant force you are doing something wrong. The only things keeping it in place at that point are a couple of O-rings. |
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Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?
On May 11, 4:07 pm, Donna wrote:
I'm stuck - I don't know how to get the shower faucet apart? I posted 15 pictures of the steps here http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaoh...7603940232052/ It might be hard to see the key pics so to help you help me, I just made extensive annotations of the pics for you to help me. This is basically where I startedhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaohl/2484369038/in/set-7215760394023... And, this is basically where I'm stuck!http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaoh...-7215760394023... Do you know what next to remove to get this Delta shower faucet apart? Thanks, Donna The big brass ring that you point to and say "This doesn't have a flat spot" needs to come off, with Channellocks or a pipe wrench (gently). It spins off counter-clockwise. It is holding the cartridge in (the main white plastic part). Typically Delta's have a couple of rubber "cups" on the back of the cartridge that can be replaced to stop a leak. If the cartridge is bad, it will be pretty expensive. The last one like yours I had to replace had frozen. :-( JK |
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Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?
On May 11, 7:39 pm, Big_Jake wrote:
On May 11, 4:07 pm, Donna wrote: I'm stuck - I don't know how to get the shower faucet apart? I posted 15 pictures of the steps here http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaoh...7603940232052/ It might be hard to see the key pics so to help you help me, I just made extensive annotations of the pics for you to help me. This is basically where I startedhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaohl/2484369038/in/set-7215760394023... And, this is basically where I'm stuck!http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaoh...-7215760394023... Do you know what next to remove to get this Delta shower faucet apart? Thanks, Donna The big brass ring that you point to and say "This doesn't have a flat spot" needs to come off, with Channellocks or a pipe wrench (gently). It spins off counter-clockwise. It is holding the cartridge in (the main white plastic part). Typically Delta's have a couple of rubber "cups" on the back of the cartridge that can be replaced to stop a leak. If the cartridge is bad, it will be pretty expensive. The last one like yours I had to replace had frozen. :-( JK Gosh I hope you turned the water off, both sides, first... JK |
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Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?
On Sun, 11 May 2008 17:40:41 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/64rlmo Hi Joe, That was a great idea to poke around the Delta site. http://www.deltafaucet.com/wps/porta...r+faucet+leaks I found this exploded diagram: http://tinyurl.com/5fb5y3 Which I reproduced in the slide show on flickr at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaoh...th/2484362698/ Specifically, it's this picture in the set: http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaoh...7603940232052/ I see some people say to remove the "escutcheon" and others say leave it be. Unfortunately, from the exploded diagram above, I can't tell still how to remove the "cartridge". Can someone confirm if I have to remove the escutcheon (which means cutting it away from the tile since it seems glued in) or if I have to somehow twist out the "cartridge"? Thanks for your help - without you - I'd never have the courage to try this! Donna |
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Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?
On Sun, 11 May 2008 15:52:35 -0700 (PDT), caloo calay wrote:
Try going to Home Depot et al, and find the "kit" that repairs your faucet. Then you will be able to identify what needs to come out. Hi Caloo Calay, I did go to Home Depot, armed with the printout of the photographs. Unfortunately, we didn't find ANYTHING that matched this faucet! The store person suggested I take the Delta faucet apart and come in with the parts in my hand. Of course, that's where the problem is. I can't figure out the next step in disassembly. http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaoh...7603940232052/ It looks like two options were suggested he a) Cut away the escutcheon with a knife and see if there is something behind it to remove ... or ... b) Grab the post sticking out with channel locks and try to twist it out by force ... To get a better handle on the next step (i.e., a or b above), I tried calling Delta Customer Support at 1-800-345-DELTA (800-345-3358) but they were closed for the weekend. So I emailed them at and I hope to get a response. Meanwhile, I appreciate any and all help you guys can provide as it's not obvious to me, and, whatever you help with, the next person with the same problem will have this information in the archives to benefit from. Donna |
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Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?
On Sun, 11 May 2008 17:48:38 -0600, wrote:
IIRC, you need to remove the escutcheon (The big silver plate that covers the hole) In behind it, you'll probably find a big U shaped brass or spring steel retainer clip that holds the plastic cartridge in place in the housing. Pull up on it to remove it. Here's a Delta diagram of what's behind the "escutcheon". http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaoh...7603940232052/ That exploded diagram might help you understand what's next - but - it doesn't help me figure out what's the next part to remove. I've heard two different answers ... which one is the right one? That is, should I cut off the escutcheon with a knife or should I try to pull or twist the brass tube thingey with channel locks? Donna |
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Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?
On May 11, 9:45 pm, Donna wrote:
On Sun, 11 May 2008 17:40:41 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: http://tinyurl.com/64rlmo Hi Joe, That was a great idea to poke around the Delta site.http://www.deltafaucet.com/wps/porta..._Sj9SPykssy0xP... I found this exploded diagram: http://tinyurl.com/5fb5y3 Which I reproduced in the slide show on flickr at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaoh...32052/show/wit... Specifically, it's this picture in the set:http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaoh...-7215760394023... I see some people say to remove the "escutcheon" and others say leave it be. Unfortunately, from the exploded diagram above, I can't tell still how to remove the "cartridge". Can someone confirm if I have to remove the escutcheon (which means cutting it away from the tile since it seems glued in) or if I have to somehow twist out the "cartridge"? Thanks for your help - without you - I'd never have the courage to try this! Donna The diagram is for a "ball type" Delta faucet, which is not what you have. Spin the brass ring off with a pipe wrench or channellocks (gently) and then pull the cartridge out. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE WATER OFF, and let the water pressure out of hot and cold before you do this, or you will get really wet, and might send parts flying as you take it apart. Here is a pictorial of what you need to do, but I still don't think you need to take off the escutcheon. http://www.hammerzone.com/archives/p.../replseal.html JK |
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Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?
On Sun, 11 May 2008 17:55:57 -0700 (PDT), Big_Jake wrote:
Gosh I hope you turned the water off, both sides, first... Ooops. No. I just turned the handle to shut the water off. I guess I better turn the water off at the main inlet huh? I didn't think of that - but then - I didn't get to that part yet. (It wouldn't have been my first disaster, mind you!). Without you guys, I'd never have the courage to attempt these jobs! Thanks for your help ... I guess I'll try the channellocks on the brass part, twisting it counter clockwise - to see if something happens. Donna |
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Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?
On Sun, 11 May 2008 18:45:37 -0400, Joseph Meehan wrote:
Did you buy the repair kit? Did it not come with instructions? Hi Joseph Meehan, This advise sounds easy but in fact you can't buy the repair kit, at least at the Home Depot I visited with pictures in my hand - until you positively identify the faucet. And, it turns out, you can't positively identify which repair kit to use until you take apart the faucet (at least according to Home Depot). Which brings us back to square one ... how to disassemble the Delta shower faucet to repair a leak? Donna |
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Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?
On Sun, 11 May 2008 20:10:44 -0400, John Grabowski wrote:
You need to remove the chrome escution from the wall. It should pry off easily. It may be held on by some caulk or just a gasket in back, but be gentle and pry around it so that you not deform it. Hi John Grabowski, You're the second person to recommend removing the chrome "escutcheon". There are two problems with that - the first is that it's stuck on and I'm scared of cutting it away - but - the second is that others here say we don't have to remove that chrome escutcheon. When I look at the diagram on the Delta site, I can't tell (I can't find the instructions for taking the Delta faucet apart on the Delta web site). http://tinyurl.com/5fb5y3 Can you tell, from this diagram, whether I need to remove the escutcheon next (which means cutting it away from the tile) or if I need to somehow spin out the brass cylinder with pliars? Donna |
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Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?
"Donna" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 May 2008 20:10:44 -0400, John Grabowski wrote: You need to remove the chrome escution from the wall. It should pry off easily. It may be held on by some caulk or just a gasket in back, but be gentle and pry around it so that you not deform it. Hi John Grabowski, You're the second person to recommend removing the chrome "escutcheon". There are two problems with that - the first is that it's stuck on and I'm scared of cutting it away - but - the second is that others here say we don't have to remove that chrome escutcheon. When I look at the diagram on the Delta site, I can't tell (I can't find the instructions for taking the Delta faucet apart on the Delta web site). http://tinyurl.com/5fb5y3 Can you tell, from this diagram, whether I need to remove the escutcheon next (which means cutting it away from the tile) or if I need to somehow spin out the brass cylinder with pliars? Donna From the diagram it looks as though there is a screw in the center that needs to be removed and that may be what is keeping the remaining parts secure. However I don't see that screw in your actual photograph. According to Big Jake the escutcheon does not need to be removed on this particular valve and the diagram appears to support that claim. However I am wondering what role that big round piece which is probably behind the escutcheon plays in all of this. The escutcheon is probably just stuck to the wall from caulk. If you want to remove it, try getting a small flat screwdriver or a putty knife behind it and gingerly work your way around. I have found that plumbing instructions, like electrical instructions are written for people who already know how to do this type of work so no great detail is provided. |
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On Mon, 12 May 2008 06:52:22 -0400, John Grabowski wrote:
I am wondering what role that big round piece which is probably behind the escutcheon plays in all of this. Hi John, Joe, Jake, Joseph, etc. That big round brass bonnet turns out to be fundamental to the cartridge removal process! I called Delta again this morning (800-345-3358) for one of my most amazing customer support phone calls. First off, I didn't have to press 1 for English (why isn't that always the default!), second, they answered the phone right away (wow!), third it was a human who answered (woo hoo!), and fourth, they knew what I was talking about without me having to ask for the next level of support! Amazing. Simply amazing. I went from cursing Delta to loving Delta in a single phone call! What Delta customer support told me on the phone was the following: - No need to remove the escutcheon (unless we need more room) - No need for any tools (except, in dire cases, a strap wrench) - She called the set screw a grub screw & said it was 1/8 inch allen head - She said I described the Delta 1300 or Delta 1400 series faucet - The parts and procedure are the same for either shower faucet The key is the brass bonnet ring (as you surmised): - The brass bonnet ring spins off counter clockwise by hand - If it won't spin by hand (it didn't for me, but, I'm not that strong) - She said to soak a rag in a 1:1 solution of warm water & vinnegar - Let the rag sit on the brass bonnet up to four times In tough cases: - If it's won't turn off by hand, she said DO NOT USE CHANNEL LOCKS! - She was adamant about not using any two-point pliars! - She said pliars don't apply even 360-degree pressure - She said the only tool recommended is a "strap wrench" - I'm not sure what a strap wrench is, but, I guess it's like a really tiny an oil filter wrench of about 1 1/2 inch diameter. She said: - Once you spin out the cartridge, buy a replacement cartridge - Reassembly is as simple as spinning the cartridge back in - The cartridge is Delta P/N RP19804 for both faucet types - She said it's at Lowes, Home Depot, Ace Hardware, Best Hardware, etc. Well, I guess we know the answer. Spin out the bonnet. I am off to Ace to see if I can find a tiny strap wrench after work today. Wish me luck! Donna |
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Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?
On May 12, 11:43 am, Donna wrote:
On Mon, 12 May 2008 06:52:22 -0400, John Grabowski wrote: I am wondering what role that big round piece which is probably behind the escutcheon plays in all of this. Hi John, Joe, Jake, Joseph, etc. That big round brass bonnet turns out to be fundamental to the cartridge removal process! I called Delta again this morning (800-345-3358) for one of my most amazing customer support phone calls. First off, I didn't have to press 1 for English (why isn't that always the default!), second, they answered the phone right away (wow!), third it was a human who answered (woo hoo!), and fourth, they knew what I was talking about without me having to ask for the next level of support! Amazing. Simply amazing. I went from cursing Delta to loving Delta in a single phone call! What Delta customer support told me on the phone was the following: - No need to remove the escutcheon (unless we need more room) - No need for any tools (except, in dire cases, a strap wrench) - She called the set screw a grub screw & said it was 1/8 inch allen head - She said I described the Delta 1300 or Delta 1400 series faucet - The parts and procedure are the same for either shower faucet The key is the brass bonnet ring (as you surmised): - The brass bonnet ring spins off counter clockwise by hand - If it won't spin by hand (it didn't for me, but, I'm not that strong) - She said to soak a rag in a 1:1 solution of warm water & vinnegar - Let the rag sit on the brass bonnet up to four times In tough cases: - If it's won't turn off by hand, she said DO NOT USE CHANNEL LOCKS! - She was adamant about not using any two-point pliars! - She said pliars don't apply even 360-degree pressure - She said the only tool recommended is a "strap wrench" - I'm not sure what a strap wrench is, but, I guess it's like a really tiny an oil filter wrench of about 1 1/2 inch diameter. She said: - Once you spin out the cartridge, buy a replacement cartridge - Reassembly is as simple as spinning the cartridge back in - The cartridge is Delta P/N RP19804 for both faucet types - She said it's at Lowes, Home Depot, Ace Hardware, Best Hardware, etc. Well, I guess we know the answer. Spin out the bonnet. I am off to Ace to see if I can find a tiny strap wrench after work today. Wish me luck! Donna Good luck! That cartridge will likely set you back $30-$60. You should probably be able to replace the two rubber "cups" for less than a buck. My channellocks are 4 point, but I understand their concerns. I have distorted a brass ring badly enough to have to replace it. JK |
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Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?
Donna wrote in news:us_Vj.388$BL6.166
@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com: Well, I guess we know the answer. Spin out the bonnet. I am off to Ace to see if I can find a tiny strap wrench after work today. Wish me luck! Donna In a pinch, I have used a leather belt for a strap wrench. |
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On Mon, 12 May 2008 10:42:46 -0700 (PDT), Big_Jake wrote:
Good luck! That cartridge will likely set you back $30-$60. You should probably be able to replace the two rubber "cups" for less than a buck. Hi Big Jake, You were right on the money. On all counts! The Delta Monitor cartridge was $50 and the two rubber cups & springs under them were really all I needed to stop the leak. I tried both the new cartridge and the repair kit and, guess what, they both worked fine - so I returned the $50 cartridges and opted for just replacing the two rubber cups and springs below them. I also replaced the two small washers on the hot/cold water nipples on the cartridge, and the large O-ring on the outside of the cartridge. Overall, the job was easy once I removed the brass bonnet ring with a strap wrench! I did make a few mistakes though. For example, I turned on the water to test but I had forgotten to put the bonnet ring back on, and the cartridge shot out of the wall a quarter inch or so spewing water everywhere until I could shut off the main water supply. Also, the hot became cold and the cold became hot, so, I had to reverse the way I put the cartridge in the wall. But, overall, once that bonnet ring was off, it was a piece of cake. The bonnet ring is deceptive because it looks like it's part of the main brass assembly, whereas, in reality, the bonnet ring is in addition to the main brass assembly. That's what threw me off. To repeat, we did NOT have to take off the escutcheon. The only tools required to fix a leaking Delta Monitor single handle non tilt shower faucet were the 1/8 inch allen wrench to remove the grub screw holding the handle on and the strap wrench to remove the soft thin brass bonnet ring. I'll post some pics so the next person benefits from our work! Donna |
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Donna wrote: On Mon, 12 May 2008 10:42:46 -0700 (PDT), Big_Jake wrote: Good luck! That cartridge will likely set you back $30-$60. You should probably be able to replace the two rubber "cups" for less than a buck. Hi Big Jake, You were right on the money. On all counts! The Delta Monitor cartridge was $50 and the two rubber cups & springs under them were really all I needed to stop the leak. I tried both the new cartridge and the repair kit and, guess what, they both worked fine - so I returned the $50 cartridges and opted for just replacing the two rubber cups and springs below them. I also replaced the two small washers on the hot/cold water nipples on the cartridge, and the large O-ring on the outside of the cartridge. Overall, the job was easy once I removed the brass bonnet ring with a strap wrench! I did make a few mistakes though. For example, I turned on the water to test but I had forgotten to put the bonnet ring back on, and the cartridge shot out of the wall a quarter inch or so spewing water everywhere until I could shut off the main water supply. Also, the hot became cold and the cold became hot, so, I had to reverse the way I put the cartridge in the wall. But, overall, once that bonnet ring was off, it was a piece of cake. The bonnet ring is deceptive because it looks like it's part of the main brass assembly, whereas, in reality, the bonnet ring is in addition to the main brass assembly. That's what threw me off. To repeat, we did NOT have to take off the escutcheon. The only tools required to fix a leaking Delta Monitor single handle non tilt shower faucet were the 1/8 inch allen wrench to remove the grub screw holding the handle on and the strap wrench to remove the soft thin brass bonnet ring. I'll post some pics so the next person benefits from our work! Donna Personally, Donna, I find you quite annoying. You have quite a habit of extending simple questions into threads of 500 posts, with excruciating detail. I imagine others are caught up in your little soap opera life of home repairs, though, so yes, please post those pics so all your little homies can see how you conquered a leaky faucet. Somehow it just seems kind of obscene to me. Your fascination with yourself, and your perception that others are equally fascinated. You cross post to four different groups, because you just love to share with a big audience, and you're always so polite and cheerful. It's really quite ugly. Do have an absolutely wonderful day, though, won't you dear? We'll be eagerly waiting to guide you through your next challenge, because next to fixing broken crap in our own houses, our favorite pastime is talking to Donna about fixing broken crap in hers, and joyfully celebrating her hard-won victories. |
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On Tue, 13 May 2008 00:53:38 GMT, Gordon wrote:
In a pinch, I have used a leather belt for a strap wrench. Hi Gordon, That would have worked, I'm sure, as with the strap wrench, the bonnet easily spun off (I couldn't budge it without the strap though). http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaoh...7603940232052/ Here, so everyone benefits, are the additional photos showing the entire repair (http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaohl). The Delta Monitor faucet repair slide show is here http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaoh...40232052/show/ I hope the next person with a leaky Delta Monitor single valve non-tilt shower faucet can benefit from our discussion here. Thanks everyone! Donna |
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"Donna" wrote in message ... On Mon, 12 May 2008 10:42:46 -0700 (PDT), Big_Jake wrote: Good luck! That cartridge will likely set you back $30-$60. You should probably be able to replace the two rubber "cups" for less than a buck. Hi Big Jake, You were right on the money. On all counts! The Delta Monitor cartridge was $50 and the two rubber cups & springs under them were really all I needed to stop the leak. I tried both the new cartridge and the repair kit and, guess what, they both worked fine - so I returned the $50 cartridges and opted for just replacing the two rubber cups and springs below them. I also replaced the two small washers on the hot/cold water nipples on the cartridge, and the large O-ring on the outside of the cartridge. Overall, the job was easy once I removed the brass bonnet ring with a strap wrench! I did make a few mistakes though. For example, I turned on the water to test but I had forgotten to put the bonnet ring back on, and the cartridge shot out of the wall a quarter inch or so spewing water everywhere until I could shut off the main water supply. Also, the hot became cold and the cold became hot, so, I had to reverse the way I put the cartridge in the wall. But, overall, once that bonnet ring was off, it was a piece of cake. The bonnet ring is deceptive because it looks like it's part of the main brass assembly, whereas, in reality, the bonnet ring is in addition to the main brass assembly. That's what threw me off. To repeat, we did NOT have to take off the escutcheon. The only tools required to fix a leaking Delta Monitor single handle non tilt shower faucet were the 1/8 inch allen wrench to remove the grub screw holding the handle on and the strap wrench to remove the soft thin brass bonnet ring. I'll post some pics so the next person benefits from our work! Donna Donna, thanks for getting back and letting us know the final outcome and for the details of your experience. I wish more posters would come back with the end result. |
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On Tue, 13 May 2008 08:12:42 -0400, John Grabowski wrote:
I wish more posters would come back with the end result. Hi John, Thanks for the kind words. I very much thank you and Big_Jake, Joseph Meehan, Caloo Clay, JoeSpareBedroom, hchickpea, and Gordon for your wonderful advice. It's nice to know there's help out there when you need it! And, now, there's the answer so the next person has the benefit of what we've learned together! Donna |
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On Mon, 12 May 2008 22:29:42 -0700, Smitty Two
wrote: Personally, Donna, I find you quite annoying. You have quite a habit of extending simple questions into threads of 500 posts, with excruciating detail. I imagine others are caught up in your little soap opera life of home repairs, though, so yes, please post those pics so all your little homies can see how you conquered a leaky faucet. Somehow it just seems kind of obscene to me. Your fascination with yourself, and your perception that others are equally fascinated. You cross post to four different groups, because you just love to share with a big audience, and you're always so polite and cheerful. It's really quite ugly. Do have an absolutely wonderful day, though, won't you dear? We'll be eagerly waiting to guide you through your next challenge, because next to fixing broken crap in our own houses, our favorite pastime is talking to Donna about fixing broken crap in hers, and joyfully celebrating her hard-won victories. LOL. Good. I always find huge detailed threads about taking a faucet apart a bit much, when getting hold of a copy of that little schematic that usually comes with it would do. OTOH, it's more interesting than "never had a clue" and "****wit." --Vic |
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On May 13, 10:54*am, Vic Smith
wrote: I always find huge detailed threads about taking afaucet apart a bit much, when getting hold of a copy of that little schematic that usually comes with it would do. OTOH, it's more interesting than "never had a clue" and "****wit." I challenge both Vic and Smitty Two to point out WHERE on the Internet are instructions for taking apart and repairing a Delta Monitor shower faucet? That "schematic" you bespeak of does not explain the steps nor the tools and it is not obvious how to take apart the faucet. Personally, I just searched, and found a bunch of similar requests for the procedure to repair a leaky Delta Monitor but nowhere the steps with pictures and explanations until this thread. When Vic and Smitty Two come to the same conclusion, I'd ask them to post back what the purpose and intent of this home repair related newsgroup is and how this thread, in their opinion, doesn't fit in perfectly. |
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On May 12, 10:29*pm, Smitty Two wrote:
You cross post to four different groups, because you just love to share with a big audience, and you're always so polite and cheerful. It's really quite ugly. I challenge Smitty Two to explain which are the four groups posted to and how they do not relate to home repair by individuals presumably wishing to save money over a plumber. I also challenge Smitty Two to find where in the RFCs where it says you're not supposed to cheerfully share your experiences with the usenet audience? Additionally, I challenge Smitty Two to find the answer to this question as if it's already posted? Sure he'll find the question. But I challenge him to find the answer. Until now. Besides I only see three groups posted to and if I look at the first reply tos it's only back to one group. Smitty Two What exactly is wrong with cheerfully sharing personal home repair experiences in this group? |
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On May 14, 11:07*am, Bob Thompson wrote:
Personally, I just searched, and found a bunch of similar requests for the procedure to repair a leakyDeltaMonitor but nowhere the steps with pictures and explanations until this thread. While I'm sure neither Smitty Two nor Vic could find the answer to even this simple question I did find the exact question asked a number of times. A representative example is in this "alt.home.repair" thread on Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:36:16 GMT asking 'Have a Delta Monitor single lever with a temperature control knob in the bath/shower. Anyone have an idea where I can find instructions on how to repair/replace the valve? Have a slight occasional drip. I found some pdfs at deltas web site. It was good to ID parts but not for any disassembly." This previous request to this same newsgroup resulted merely in a pointer to a kitchen faucet schematic which looks totally different than what I saw in the shower pictures posted here and where the most important bonnet component looks nothing like the kitchen schematic and neither does the faucet escutcheon. The faucet cartridge is also totally different with wholly different removal procedure and fittings. It's a Delta Monitor faucet but that's where the similarities end. Why is the answer to this question so obvious to Smitty Two and Vic that even in this group in the past and present there was general discussion until a consensus could be reached? |
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On Wed, 14 May 2008 11:35:16 -0700 (PDT), Bob Thompson
wrote: On May 14, 11:07?am, Bob Thompson wrote: Personally, I just searched, and found a bunch of similar requests for the procedure to repair a leakyDeltaMonitor but nowhere the steps with pictures and explanations until this thread. While I'm sure neither Smitty Two nor Vic could find the answer to even this simple question I did find the exact question asked a number of times. Didn't mean to offend you. I just thought Two's post was amusing, and he was tongue-in-cheek. Donna's posts are quite informative, and in this case a boon to Delta faucet repairers. Info is good, this thread was well done, and the last thing I want is to stifle info in any way. Sorry. --Vic |
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, Bob Thompson wrote: On May 13, 10:54*am, Vic Smith wrote: I always find huge detailed threads about taking afaucet apart a bit much, when getting hold of a copy of that little schematic that usually comes with it would do. OTOH, it's more interesting than "never had a clue" and "****wit." I challenge both Vic and Smitty Two to point out WHERE on the Internet are instructions for taking apart and repairing a Delta Monitor shower faucet? That "schematic" you bespeak of does not explain the steps nor the tools and it is not obvious how to take apart the faucet. Personally, I just searched, and found a bunch of similar requests for the procedure to repair a leaky Delta Monitor but nowhere the steps with pictures and explanations until this thread. When Vic and Smitty Two come to the same conclusion, I'd ask them to post back what the purpose and intent of this home repair related newsgroup is and how this thread, in their opinion, doesn't fit in perfectly. Well, Bob, if you really want to dialogue with me, you'll have to stop posting from google, because I killfile them. But I became aware of your post through Vic's response. If you'll read my post carefully, I never said the instructions were readily available on the internet. I never said the post was off topic. What I said was, Donna annoys the crap out of me. And she does. |
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On Wed, 14 May 2008 19:00:44 -0700, Smitty Two
wrote: What I said was, Donna annoys the crap out of me. And she does. You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but Donna's virtue is the fount of information she is leaving on the Internet for future homeowners' reference, unlike, for example, HoundMan (VF) on alt.autos.subaru who persists in modifying his 2007 Subaru to feel and perform like his 1968 Chevy and provides excruciatingly detailed posts addressing his goals, his actions, and his opinions, few if any of which correlate to the reality the rest of us live in. Try reading some of his posts for maximum annoyance. |
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On Thu, 15 May 2008 07:24:36 -0400, KLS wrote:
On Wed, 14 May 2008 19:00:44 -0700, Smitty Two wrote: What I said was, Donna annoys the crap out of me. And she does. Donna's virtue is the fount of information she is leaving on the Internet for future homeowners' reference Oh my! I certainly did not mean to annoy the very people who help me! Nor did I mean to annoy anyone who needs the help in the future. I'm very sorry for the "excrutiating" detail - I never intended to offend. I'll therefore keep this apology short and leave quickly. Donna |
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On May 11, 8:06*pm, Big_Jake wrote:
Here is a pictorial of what you need to do, but I still don't think you need to take off the escutcheon. http://www.hammerzone.com/archives/p...cet1/deltarot/... My comments on the handyman article should you attempt this repair yourselves. http://www.hammerzone.com/archives/p.../replseal.html http://tinyurl.com/4y3bwl They were omnipotent when they said "we had to study the situation for a few minutes before we realized that the brass collar was actually a separate part from the rest of the brass valve housing" and "Once the retaining collar was removed, the rest was obvious." The same ideas were expressed in this thread. But the actual steps they took in that handyman article were wrong not only because they used pliars instead of a strap wrench but because they took apart parts that even they didn't use so they never needed to take apart those part in the first place. There was no need to pry off the o ring on the tip of the valve and to pry off the brass temperature limit valve either. They were just blindly taking things apart because they could not because they should. Otherwise it was a good article and the pictures are excellent. Combined with this thread I would think someone could now do the job in about ten minutes. They even explained why there is a screw hole which isn't used in a handle shower faucet but which is used in a knob shower faucet. |
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@yahoo.com says... On Thu, 15 May 2008 07:24:36 -0400, KLS wrote: On Wed, 14 May 2008 19:00:44 -0700, Smitty Two wrote: What I said was, Donna annoys the crap out of me. And she does. Donna's virtue is the fount of information she is leaving on the Internet for future homeowners' reference Oh my! I certainly did not mean to annoy the very people who help me! Nor did I mean to annoy anyone who needs the help in the future. I'm very sorry for the "excrutiating" detail - I never intended to offend. I'll therefore keep this apology short and leave quickly. Donna Quit saying I'm sorry and stand up to the bullies who have no clue as to helping a brother/sister out or as to frugality! |
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On Thu, 15 May 2008 22:55:45 -0500, Cheapo Groovo wrote:
stand up to the bullies Hi Cheapo Groovo, I do appreciate your support but, really, how can I possibly stand up to them? They can always impugn my reputation in a single post and shout me down were I to even try. That's easy and inexpensive on their part. The actual hard part is taking the pictures, saving them, shrinking them, cropping them, annotating each and every one, uploading them, making a slide show out of them, calling the faucet company and asking intelligent questions, doing the initial web searches, following up on all the suggested links, buying the correct parts, buying the right tools, and then doing the actual repair work and writing it all up for others to benefit. Given I've done all that, I don't really have the time nor the energy to "stand up to the bullies". In fact, I'd rather spend my appreciable time on my next home repair project (which is to fix the wiring in the bathroom that I screwed up installing automatic on/off lights supposedly to save money). Sigh. Thanks, Donna |
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Well all I can say is without your hard work and energy spent on this
project, I couldn't have finished mine. Thank You Very Much. |
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