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I have had three water leaks in my home in the last three months. I am
wondering what is the problem. The leaks have gone from one side of the house to the other. Is the plumber taking me for a ride or is it worn pipes? I know my insurance company is going to drop us with the next claim. Will it be cheaper to just go ahead and replace the pipes than continiously filing claims and paying the deductible? The house is 13 years old and we have been living in Coastal Georgia for 15 months. There has been no other problems with leaks until now. The inspector did not detect any leaks. It seems to be a problem in this area from what we have heard after we bought our house of course. Need answers. |
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"FIXITPLS" wrote: I have had three water leaks in my home in the last three months. I am wondering what is the problem. The leaks have gone from one side of the house to the other. Is the plumber taking me for a ride or is it worn pipes? I know my insurance company is going to drop us with the next claim. Will it be cheaper to just go ahead and replace the pipes than continiously filing claims and paying the deductible? The house is 13 years old and we have been living in Coastal Georgia for 15 months. There has been no other problems with leaks until now. The inspector did not detect any leaks. It seems to be a problem in this area from what we have heard after we bought our house of course. Need answers. Did the plumber explain the leaks to you? Were they actual pipes, or was it joints, fittings, or fixtures? Are you on city water or are you on your own private well or community water system? Copper or lead or other type of plumbing? Have you had your water tested? While I have no information from you to give any advice, I can relate a similar problem that I have seen in central Wisconsin. The water in some locations there has a low PH number. As a result, it reacts with copper over time, and puts many tiny pinholes in the copper. You fix it in one place, and another place a few feet down will leak. These people were able to install a neutralizer, which stopped the deterioration. But at that point, it was too late, and much of the copper had to be replaced. The small line to the ice maker had leaked a few times before the bigger 1/2 inch copper leaked, so that was their clue that something was wrong. -john- -- ================================================== ==================== John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708 Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com ================================================== ==================== |
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John A. Weeks III wrote: In article .com, "FIXITPLS" wrote: I have had three water leaks in my home in the last three months. I am wondering what is the problem. The leaks have gone from one side of the house to the other. Is the plumber taking me for a ride or is it worn pipes? I know my insurance company is going to drop us with the next claim. Will it be cheaper to just go ahead and replace the pipes than continiously filing claims and paying the deductible? The house is 13 years old and we have been living in Coastal Georgia for 15 months. There has been no other problems with leaks until now. The inspector did not detect any leaks. It seems to be a problem in this area from what we have heard after we bought our house of course. Need answers. Did the plumber explain the leaks to you? Were they actual pipes, or was it joints, fittings, or fixtures? Are you on city water or are you on your own private well or community water system? Copper or lead or other type of plumbing? Have you had your water tested? While I have no information from you to give any advice, I can relate a similar problem that I have seen in central Wisconsin. The water in some locations there has a low PH number. As a result, it reacts with copper over time, and puts many tiny pinholes in the copper. You fix it in one place, and another place a few feet down will leak. These people were able to install a neutralizer, which stopped the deterioration. But at that point, it was too late, and much of the copper had to be replaced. The small line to the ice maker had leaked a few times before the bigger 1/2 inch copper leaked, so that was their clue that something was wrong. -john- -- ================================================== ==================== John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708 Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com ================================================== ==================== To the above, I would add, we don't even know if it's water supply line leaks, sewer pipe leaks, or a combo. |
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My husband talked with the plumber and as I understand it, this is a
problem that they have in this area with the water and algae. They have even suggested that we pour bleach down our drains every few months. This sounds like something that would eat up the pipes like it would eat up everything else. I saw a small piece of the pipes they replaced and it looks all corrodide and rusted. Lets put it this way, that piece didnt look good all all. I hate to see the rest of the pipes. Of course I know nothing about plumbing. The plumber says it is best to re-route new pipes though the roof. We are on city water. We have not had our water tested. Is it best to go with the plastic pipes (PVC?) or use copper? Once we do install the new pipes should we also add the neutralizer? The whole thing is giving me a headache. I need to make the correct decision now to prevent this from happening 13 more years down the line. Thanks for your help. John A. Weeks III wrote: In article .com, "FIXITPLS" wrote: I have had three water leaks in my home in the last three months. I am wondering what is the problem. The leaks have gone from one side of the house to the other. Is the plumber taking me for a ride or is it worn pipes? I know my insurance company is going to drop us with the next claim. Will it be cheaper to just go ahead and replace the pipes than continiously filing claims and paying the deductible? The house is 13 years old and we have been living in Coastal Georgia for 15 months. There has been no other problems with leaks until now. The inspector did not detect any leaks. It seems to be a problem in this area from what we have heard after we bought our house of course. Need answers. Did the plumber explain the leaks to you? Were they actual pipes, or was it joints, fittings, or fixtures? Are you on city water or are you on your own private well or community water system? Copper or lead or other type of plumbing? Have you had your water tested? While I have no information from you to give any advice, I can relate a similar problem that I have seen in central Wisconsin. The water in some locations there has a low PH number. As a result, it reacts with copper over time, and puts many tiny pinholes in the copper. You fix it in one place, and another place a few feet down will leak. These people were able to install a neutralizer, which stopped the deterioration. But at that point, it was too late, and much of the copper had to be replaced. The small line to the ice maker had leaked a few times before the bigger 1/2 inch copper leaked, so that was their clue that something was wrong. -john- -- ================================================== ==================== John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708 Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com ================================================== ==================== |
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In article . com,
"FIXITPLS" wrote: My husband talked with the plumber and as I understand it, this is a problem that they have in this area with the water and algae. They have even suggested that we pour bleach down our drains every few months. This sounds like something that would eat up the pipes like it would eat up everything else. I saw a small piece of the pipes they replaced and it looks all corrodide and rusted. Lets put it this way, that piece didnt look good all all. I hate to see the rest of the pipes. Of course I know nothing about plumbing. The plumber says it is best to re-route new pipes though the roof. We are on city water. We have not had our water tested. Is it best to go with the plastic pipes (PVC?) or use copper? Once we do install the new pipes should we also add the neutralizer? The whole thing is giving me a headache. I need to make the correct decision now to prevent this from happening 13 more years down the line. Thanks for your help. I don't know if PVC is legal in your area. I would suggest using PEX plumbing, which is new on the market in the US, but has a long track record in Europe. It is flexiable, very resistant, and goes together with crimp connectors. It should last in this situation. You still want to get a water filter and treatment system. Not only will it improve the water taste and smell, but it will keep some of the bad stuff out of your body, it will let detergent work better, and it will be far easier on your clothes in the wash. You will probably save more in clothing than what the system would cost to install. -john- -- ================================================== ==================== John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708 Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com ================================================== ==================== |
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"John A. Weeks III" wrote:
I don't know if PVC is legal in your area. I would suggest using PEX plumbing, which is new on the market in the US, but has a long track record in Europe. It is flexiable, very resistant, and goes together with crimp connectors. It should last in this situation. PEX is not new in the US, its been around since the 70s. Google on Shell and PEX for details of a particularly nasty lawsuit or click he http://www.paccrestinspections.com/polybutylene.htm That said, the current PEX formulations are probably fine... |
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Rick Blaine wrote:
PEX is not new in the US, its been around since the 70s. Google on Shell and PEX for details of a particularly nasty lawsuit or click he http://www.paccrestinspections.com/polybutylene.htm That said, the current PEX formulations are probably fine... Whoops. Confused PEX and PB. Never mind (in Lilly Thompson voice). |
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Rick Blaine wrote:
Never mind (in Lilly Thompson voice). Sigh. Lily Tomlin. Knew I shouldn't have had the second glass of wine with dinner. |
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Rick Blaine writes:
Rick Blaine wrote: Never mind (in Lilly Thompson voice). Sigh. Lily Tomlin. Knew I shouldn't have had the second glass of wine with dinner. I may make you sigh some more though. Wasn't the "Never mind" bit Gilda Radner's (as Emily Litella)? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_Litella "What is this I hear about endangered feces?" Best Regards, -- Todd H. http://www.toddh.net/ |
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