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Background.

On 12 December 2005, we purchased a new central air system (external
unit, i.e., compressor + evaporator/coil) from two Sears HVAC
representatives (Mr. Steve Bryant and Mr. Chris May) after they came to
our house and surveyed our AC system replacement needs. The unit was
installed by a Sears contractor during the last week December of 2005.
In the last three months, we placed at least three service calls due to
the suction line leading to the compressor freezing up and the system
shutting down. The same contractor came to our house at least three
times but could not get the problem fixed. A second contractor was
brought in and made two service calls; the problem only got worse,
capped by a failure of the compressor unit. A third contractor
(subcontracted by the second contractor) came in, only to leave without
performing any service. He said he did not want get involved in any
installation issues in a system that he did not help install.

Service calls.

Contractor No. 1

During the first service call, the freezing was blamed on clogged
lines. In the next service call, the compressor fan speed was
increased. We were also told to remove the high efficiency filters that
cost us over $800 that the Sears HVAC salespeople also sold us. In the
third service call, the contractor installed a thermostat and also
found an obstruction in the furnace. The freezing continues. At point,
we were told of a possible incompatibility of existing furnace with the
new compressor. Had the Sears HVAC representatives informed us that the
furnace might not work with the new AC system, we would have gone ahead
and purchased a new furnace. With each service call, we had to wait at
least 1-3 days before the contractor came.

Contractor No. 2.

A second contractor was brought in. During his first service call (the
fourth overall service call on the unit), he removed a damper that he
claimed was impeding air flow. The following day, the line froze again,
along with a high-pitched metallic sound from the location of the
furnace, followed by the complete shut down of the system. They
diagnosed the problem as being due to a failing blower and replaced the
blower. This was service call no. 2 for contractor no. 2. After this
contractor left, I notice that the blower was running, hot air was
coming out of the vents, and I could hear the compressor violently
going through start and stop cycles every 1 minute or so. I immediately
called contractor no. 2, who has halfway to Mississippi at this time.
Contractors No. 1 and 2 all were based in MS, about a two-hour drive to
our location in Monroe, LA. Contractor no. 2 turns around, and
diagnoses the system as low on freon, possibly due to a check valve
that popped with all the freezing events. The following day, the
compressor completely failed, i.e. would not start, and I detect the
presence of oil-like stains on the pad as well as on the bottom of the
unit.

Contractor No. 3.

After another series of calls to SEARS HVAC representatives, the New
Orleans district manager assured me that a contractor would come in to
fix or diagnose the problem. Contractor No. 3 told me that Contractor
No. 2 called him to perform the service. After I showed him the oil
film on the pad and on the bottom of the compressor unit, he told me he
will not service the unit, explaining he wasn't involved in the
installation process. To add insult to injury, he tried to sell me a
complete system that would work. He runs his own heating and cooling
business in the area, called "Discount Heating and Cooling."

Marginal living conditions.

Meanwhile, my family had to endure marginal living and sleeping
conditions through the days and nights without a functioning air
conditioner. We had to purchase a window AC for our master bedroom and
two days later, a slightly bigger unit to reclaim part of our kitchen
and living room. We are still limited to using about 25% of our 2,100
sqft house. Our normal family-centric activities have been severely
interrupted. Our five year old child has had to sleep in with his
parents. He also has allergies and has not responded well to such an
environment.

Experience with SEARS representatives on the phone.

On Tuesday, May 23, I spent at least two hours on the phone
(800-469-4663), trying to get my situation addressed by Sears HVAC
representatives. I may have come across as an unsatisfied consumer, but
I had the general impression that these representatives were rude. For
example, I was referred to a person named Christine (Orlando). I tried
to explain to her that we were unsatisfied with the system and would
like our money back. She referred me to a Brian (New Orleans). After
explaining my case to Brian, and my request to get our money back so
that I can get an alternative system installed, he referred me back to
Christine. At this juncture, please understand that I am now faced with
the dilemma of further service calls or getting an alternative system
installed. I felt we deserved a better service than what we were
getting. The person named Christine sounded arrogant on the phone,
claiming this could not be done in one day, at one point challenged me
to go the legal route. Both Christine and Brian suggested that my
furnace or something in my system is causing the freezing problems. I
tried in vain to explain to these persons that I went by the
recommendations of the Sears representatives when they sold me the
system, thinking that they were professionals and that they surveyed my
system before they sold me the unit. She then referred me to a
resolution specialist. I again explained my situation. While the
resolution specialist showed sympathy, I have been persuaded to let a
different contractor (Contractor No. 2, see above) come in on Sunday to
perform a load calculation and troubleshoot our system. He did not come
that Sunday or the following Tuesday, claiming the New Orleans office
gave him the wrong mobile number. As a direct result of a complaint I
filed through the Better Business Bureau, a Shannon, identifying
herself with SEARS legal department called me and asked "how do we
resolve the problem." At first I though she would be the key to
finally resolving my issues. However, Shannon is based in Orlando,
while Brian is in New Orleans. Shannon would tell me on thing, while
Brian would give me a different version. Time and time again I would
request that I be refunded because I have not been satisfied with the
whole thing. On June 9, I requested that I be refunded and that SEARS
remove the unit from my property. At which point Shannon, rudely told
me that "Mr. V, the compressor is a lemon, we are going to replace
it." Brian then tells me that they are still trying to get approval
from the manufacturer and that it will not be until next week.

Why we chose SEARS and why we are sorry we did.

When we bought our system, we felt good about Sears and I believed that
the band represented a good quality product with good customer service.
The line that said SATISFACTION OR YOUR MONEY BACK told me that this
was the best option for my family. After this experience, I feel very
differently. While the conflict resolution specialist came across as
understanding my situation and made feel important as a consumer, the
rest of the people I contacted were indifferent, at times arrogant, and
did not represent what a good customer service should be. Throughout
this whole process, we have been fairly patient, giving SEARS every
opportunity to fix the problem. On the contrary, it only got worse, to
be capped off by the mechanical failure of the compressor unit. We went
by the recommendations of the SEARS Heating and Cooling representatives
in the purchase of our new system. My recent phone calls have led me to
believe that certain basic procedures like load calculation might not
have been performed when the unit was sold to us. It appears that all
of this unpleasant experience might have otherwise been avoided if such
standard heating and cooling procedure was performed. We have lost
confidence in the expertise of the SEARS contractors that installed and
or serviced our system. Above all, the SEARS HVAC representatives that
we have been in contact with appeared to be not in synch, giving
different versions of events and expectations of delivering services.
No person should ever be subjected to such a callous and arrogant
treatment by customer service representatives. We made the purchase in
good faith, but we are finding out in a rather sad way that when we
needed SEARS to live up to its guarantee of satisfactory service, our
good faith hasn't been rewarded.

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Sorry about your experience. Why anybody buys home improvemnet services
through Sears is beyond me. All they do is sub contract it all out and
add a hefty premium for the honor of doing business with Sears. Friends
of our had a Sears guy give an estimate for refinishing their kitchen
cabinets. $10,000. Unbelievable.

-Tom

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"ToMh" writes:

Sorry about your experience. Why anybody buys home improvemnet services
through Sears is beyond me. All they do is sub contract it all out and
add a hefty premium for the honor of doing business with Sears. Friends
of our had a Sears guy give an estimate for refinishing their kitchen
cabinets. $10,000. Unbelievable.


My Sears quote on siding and windows was over 2.5x the guy we ended up
using. Dunno who uses em..

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I know some people who had a quote for cabinet refacing - $8500 to
reface 10 linear feet of cabinets (above and below). For the same
money they could have had all their cabinets replaced with brand new,
two or three times.

Sears is a scam, everything they do is a scam except Craftsman
wrenches. Sears prays on old people, too.

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I got this same quote too! It was ridiculous. I feel quite insulted when I
get quotes like that... to the point where I'm immediatedly turned off to
the business (Sears) trying to sell it to me.

I ended up refinishing the cabinets myself (since they were plywood). I
sandpapered them, prepped the wood with Kilz, painted the cabinets, and put
in new shelves. I replaced the old fake wood (plastic) doors with custom
made wooden ones ordered through Home Depot and I bought the hardware on
Ebay. The entire job came to around $1000.

Robin

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Sorry about your experience. Why anybody buys home improvemnet services
through Sears is beyond me. All they do is sub contract it all out and
add a hefty premium for the honor of doing business with Sears. Friends
of our had a Sears guy give an estimate for refinishing their kitchen
cabinets. $10,000. Unbelievable.

-Tom



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