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I ran out of petrol last night on a roundabout and blocked the traffic trying
to get on it. When my boyfriend came to rescue me he showed me how to "limp
it" out of the way using the starter motor. He pulled out a thick rubbery lead
from something, put the car in gear and let the power in the battery do all
the work. I was amazed, but when we got home, after watching him check the
battery with his little pocket meter, I was confused. Why didn't this powerful
battery set fire to such a small pocket meter when it had so much power in it?
I know the battery had loads of power left because I tested it by laying one
of his long screwdrivers across the lead terminals. It was so powerful that I
ended up melting one of them and damaged his screwdriver. Before I could ask
anything he sent me inside. The screwdriver was a long and thin one, but
thicker than the skinny wires on his pocket meter, so why did it get so hot
and cause such a massive spark? When he came in I asked him again, but he
refused to tell me, saying I should leave electrics to the experts. This
morning, after he left for work, I went back into the garage to do an
experiment. I found some thin wire similar in thickness to the wires on his
pocket meter and connect the ends to the battery. It melted before I could
disconnect it, so what's going on here? I had to pull it off with some
cardboard in my hand because I would've had a nasty burn without it. It really
was that hot, and it looked like it was getting hotter. It even started to
melt the battery's plastic. Do some wires have something in them to stop them
getting so hot? Why are the wires going to my kettle cold? Why do boyfriends
treat their girlfriends like idiots? We're the same age (22) but he talks to
me like I'm only half that age sometimes, so that's why I'm asking here. Am I
in the right newsgroup?
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:21:37 -0000, sparky wrote:

I ran out of petrol last night on a roundabout and blocked the traffic trying
to get on it. When my boyfriend came to rescue me he showed me how to "limp
it" out of the way using the starter motor. He pulled out a thick rubbery lead
from something, put the car in gear and let the power in the battery do all
the work.


Er what? I've done that without adjusting anything. You just put it in 1st and attempt to start the engine.

I was amazed, but when we got home, after watching him check the
battery with his little pocket meter, I was confused. Why didn't this powerful
battery set fire to such a small pocket meter when it had so much power in it?


Same reason why you can plug a clock radio into the same power outlet as a 3kW convector heater in your house.

I know the battery had loads of power left because I tested it by laying one
of his long screwdrivers across the lead terminals. It was so powerful that I
ended up melting one of them and damaged his screwdriver.


Try a thick spanner and watch the battery explode. Make sure you look very closely.

Before I could ask
anything he sent me inside. The screwdriver was a long and thin one,


Are we talking about his screwdriver or something else now?

but thicker than the skinny wires on his pocket meter, so why did it get so hot
and cause such a massive spark? When he came in I asked him again, but he
refused to tell me, saying I should leave electrics to the experts.


I'm surprised you know how to drive a car.

This morning, after he left for work, I went back into the garage to do an
experiment. I found some thin wire similar in thickness to the wires on his
pocket meter and connect the ends to the battery. It melted before I could
disconnect it, so what's going on here? I had to pull it off with some
cardboard in my hand because I would've had a nasty burn without it. It really
was that hot, and it looked like it was getting hotter. It even started to
melt the battery's plastic. Do some wires have something in them to stop them
getting so hot? Why are the wires going to my kettle cold? Why do boyfriends
treat their girlfriends like idiots? We're the same age (22) but he talks to
me like I'm only half that age sometimes, so that's why I'm asking here. Am I
in the right newsgroup?


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I ran out of petrol last night on a roundabout


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On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:23:31 -0000, PeterD wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:11:40 -0000, "Peter Hucker"
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:21:37 -0000, sparky wrote:

I ran out of petrol last night on a roundabout


and Hucker responds to a poorly written troll...


I found it quite amusing. There are people that stupid you know.

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On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 15:38:16 -0000, "Peter Hucker" wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:23:31 -0000, PeterD wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:11:40 -0000, "Peter Hucker"
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:21:37 -0000, sparky wrote:

I ran out of petrol last night on a roundabout


and Hucker responds to a poorly written troll...


I found it quite amusing. There are people that stupid you know.


Listen up, Peter. I'm quite aware that if you ask a stupid question you can
only expect a stupid answer, and that's exactly what I got. However, though it
may have sounded like a stupid question to you, it didn't deserve a stupid
answer because I asked it in good faith. My boyfriend says it's all to do with
resistance to the current flow in the wire, and that if the wire is long and
thin enough it won't get hot. ('ro' x 'l') / 'a' where 'ro' is the resistivity
of the wire's material, 'l' is the length of the wire, and 'a' is the
thickness of it in metres. I'm still not sure exactly what it means, but at
least I now have something to go on in my google searches to find an answer.
You don't have to help me if it's beneath you to talk to a girl about
electricity. I'm used to that kind of intolerance from insecure men. Jeeze,
I'm glad I the foresight to change my name before embarrassing myself here.


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On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:21:37 +0000, sparky wrote:

I ran out of petrol last night on a roundabout and blocked the traffic trying
to get on it. When my boyfriend came to rescue me he showed me how to "limp
it" out of the way using the starter motor. He pulled out a thick rubbery lead
from something, put the car in gear and let the power in the battery do all
the work. I was amazed, but when we got home, after watching him check the
battery with his little pocket meter, I was confused. Why didn't this powerful
battery set fire to such a small pocket meter when it had so much power in it?
I know the battery had loads of power left because I tested it by laying one
of his long screwdrivers across the lead terminals. It was so powerful that I
ended up melting one of them and damaged his screwdriver. Before I could ask
anything he sent me inside. The screwdriver was a long and thin one, but
thicker than the skinny wires on his pocket meter, so why did it get so hot
and cause such a massive spark? When he came in I asked him again, but he
refused to tell me, saying I should leave electrics to the experts. This
morning, after he left for work, I went back into the garage to do an
experiment. I found some thin wire similar in thickness to the wires on his
pocket meter and connect the ends to the battery. It melted before I could
disconnect it, so what's going on here? I had to pull it off with some
cardboard in my hand because I would've had a nasty burn without it. It really
was that hot, and it looked like it was getting hotter. It even started to
melt the battery's plastic. Do some wires have something in them to stop them
getting so hot? Why are the wires going to my kettle cold? Why do boyfriends
treat their girlfriends like idiots? We're the same age (22) but he talks to
me like I'm only half that age sometimes, so that's why I'm asking here. Am I
in the right newsgroup?



1) You need to learn more about electricity before playing with
powerful car batteries.
2) Your boyfriend might not be treating you like a girl, he may be
treating you like someone who has no electrical training.
3) He may not be teaching you because,
He may not be a good teacher. Just because you know
something, doesn't mean you are good at explaining it.
or
He may not know enough to explain it.


The reason the meter doesn't melt has nothing to do with the wires.
It has everything to do with the meter that they are connected to.
The meter (in VOLT mode) has a high resistance.
The resistance will RESIST the flow of electricity.
This is done so that the meter will not "drag down" the voltage it is
measuring.
This is because the meter is connected ACROSS, or PARALLEL with the
circuit.


Be careful though.
If you put the meter in AMP mode, the meter then has a low resistance.
This will cause a LARGE amount of current to flow, just as if it were
only wires connected.
This is because the meter in AMP mode is connected IN LINE, or in
SERIES with the circuit. If the meter were resisting flow, it would
affect the circuit.
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On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:01:11 -0000, sparky wrote:

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 15:38:16 -0000, "Peter Hucker" wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:23:31 -0000, PeterD wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:11:40 -0000, "Peter Hucker"
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:21:37 -0000, sparky wrote:

I ran out of petrol last night on a roundabout

and Hucker responds to a poorly written troll...


I found it quite amusing. There are people that stupid you know.


Listen up, Peter. I'm quite aware that if you ask a stupid question you can
only expect a stupid answer, and that's exactly what I got. However, though it
may have sounded like a stupid question to you, it didn't deserve a stupid
answer because I asked it in good faith. My boyfriend says it's all to do with
resistance to the current flow in the wire, and that if the wire is long and
thin enough it won't get hot. ('ro' x 'l') / 'a' where 'ro' is the resistivity
of the wire's material, 'l' is the length of the wire, and 'a' is the
thickness of it in metres. I'm still not sure exactly what it means, but at
least I now have something to go on in my google searches to find an answer.
You don't have to help me if it's beneath you to talk to a girl about
electricity. I'm used to that kind of intolerance from insecure men. Jeeze,
I'm glad I the foresight to change my name before embarrassing myself here.


I'm intolerant of stupidity because I see stupid people every day. It gets tedious....

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On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:44:58 -0000, LL wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:21:37 +0000, sparky wrote:

I ran out of petrol last night on a roundabout and blocked the traffic trying
to get on it. When my boyfriend came to rescue me he showed me how to "limp
it" out of the way using the starter motor. He pulled out a thick rubbery lead
from something, put the car in gear and let the power in the battery do all
the work. I was amazed, but when we got home, after watching him check the
battery with his little pocket meter, I was confused. Why didn't this powerful
battery set fire to such a small pocket meter when it had so much power in it?
I know the battery had loads of power left because I tested it by laying one
of his long screwdrivers across the lead terminals. It was so powerful that I
ended up melting one of them and damaged his screwdriver. Before I could ask
anything he sent me inside. The screwdriver was a long and thin one, but
thicker than the skinny wires on his pocket meter, so why did it get so hot
and cause such a massive spark? When he came in I asked him again, but he
refused to tell me, saying I should leave electrics to the experts. This
morning, after he left for work, I went back into the garage to do an
experiment. I found some thin wire similar in thickness to the wires on his
pocket meter and connect the ends to the battery. It melted before I could
disconnect it, so what's going on here? I had to pull it off with some
cardboard in my hand because I would've had a nasty burn without it. It really
was that hot, and it looked like it was getting hotter. It even started to
melt the battery's plastic. Do some wires have something in them to stop them
getting so hot? Why are the wires going to my kettle cold? Why do boyfriends
treat their girlfriends like idiots? We're the same age (22) but he talks to
me like I'm only half that age sometimes, so that's why I'm asking here. Am I
in the right newsgroup?



1) You need to learn more about electricity before playing with
powerful car batteries.
2) Your boyfriend might not be treating you like a girl, he may be
treating you like someone who has no electrical training.
3) He may not be teaching you because,
He may not be a good teacher. Just because you know
something, doesn't mean you are good at explaining it.
or
He may not know enough to explain it.


The reason the meter doesn't melt has nothing to do with the wires.
It has everything to do with the meter that they are connected to.
The meter (in VOLT mode) has a high resistance.
The resistance will RESIST the flow of electricity.
This is done so that the meter will not "drag down" the voltage it is
measuring.
This is because the meter is connected ACROSS, or PARALLEL with the
circuit.


Be careful though.
If you put the meter in AMP mode, the meter then has a low resistance.
This will cause a LARGE amount of current to flow, just as if it were
only wires connected.
This is because the meter in AMP mode is connected IN LINE, or in
SERIES with the circuit. If the meter were resisting flow, it would
affect the circuit.


Done that before. I have a crappy meter with seperate sockets for amps and volts. I have often switched the dial to volts and left the leads in the amps socket. New leads please!

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On 2008-11-15, sparky wrote:
Listen up, Peter. I'm quite aware that if you ask a stupid question you can
only expect a stupid answer, and that's exactly what I got. However, though it
may have sounded like a stupid question to you, it didn't deserve a stupid
answer because I asked it in good faith.


on occasion we get people pretending to be dumb asking dumb questions,
yours was borderline.

My boyfriend says it's all to do with
resistance to the current flow in the wire, and that if the wire is long and
thin enough it won't get hot.


yeah but it's more to do with what's inside the meter. if you were to put
one of the meter wires across the battery there'd be a small explosion and
the wire would turn to ash and molten copper and you'd probably lose your
eyebrows, burn your hands etc.

inside the meter there's a resistor that stops all the energy from the
battery from rushing through the wires and only lets enough through to
give an indication of how full it is. (and not the best indication
either) if you go to a car battery shop they'll have a tester with
big fat cables that tests the battery by seeing how much strength it
(something like this perhaps: http://www.batterymart.com/p-acc-sb-5.html )
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:21:37 +0000, sparky wrote:

I ran out of petrol last night on a roundabout and blocked the traffic trying
to get on it. When my boyfriend came to rescue me he showed me how to "limp
it" out of the way using the starter motor. He pulled out a thick rubbery lead
from something, put the car in gear and let the power in the battery do all
the work. I was amazed, but when we got home, after watching him check the
battery with his little pocket meter, I was confused. Why didn't this powerful
battery set fire to such a small pocket meter when it had so much power in it?
I know the battery had loads of power left because I tested it by laying one
of his long screwdrivers across the lead terminals. It was so powerful that I
ended up melting one of them and damaged his screwdriver. Before I could ask
anything he sent me inside. The screwdriver was a long and thin one, but
thicker than the skinny wires on his pocket meter, so why did it get so hot
and cause such a massive spark? When he came in I asked him again, but he
refused to tell me, saying I should leave electrics to the experts. This
morning, after he left for work, I went back into the garage to do an
experiment. I found some thin wire similar in thickness to the wires on his
pocket meter and connect the ends to the battery. It melted before I could
disconnect it, so what's going on here? I had to pull it off with some
cardboard in my hand because I would've had a nasty burn without it. It really
was that hot, and it looked like it was getting hotter. It even started to
melt the battery's plastic. Do some wires have something in them to stop them
getting so hot? Why are the wires going to my kettle cold? Why do boyfriends
treat their girlfriends like idiots? We're the same age (22) but he talks to
me like I'm only half that age sometimes, so that's why I'm asking here. Am I
in the right newsgroup?


Hi,

Firstly, let me apologise for some of the responses you got here. LL
is correct. You need to know more about these things before playing
with car batteries. A lot more.

People are generally pretty relaxed about batteries but wouldn't dream
of playing with high voltage stuff. But believe me, car batteries may
be only low voltage but can deliver quite a lot of current, creating a
lot of heat very quickly if you short circuit them as you did.

Firstly, wait until your boyfriend has settled down. Remember, you
just destroyed a favourite screwdriver. Then ask him if he'll spend
some time explaining the basics to you. As someone else noted, he may
not know much or may not be a good/patient teacher. At a guess, he's
not totally ignorant on electrical stuff - he at least owns a meter.
And you're at least tech-literate enough to find your way into this
forum. On a personal note, if he won't help or at least point you to
help, flick him. You need to at the very least understand the concepts
of voltage, current, resistance, power and a relationship known as
Ohm's law. Remember, Google is your friend. Include words like
'tutorial' in your searches.

Please, for safety sake, do not experiment with high voltage (like the
wall outlets) or high current (like car battery) devices until you
understand clearly what you were doing wrong. There's no magic
involved. But there are some potentially lethal hazards.

John


PS: Sorry guys if I've upset you by encouraging a 'blond' but I happen
to know several intelligent blonds. Some are quite smart in their own
fields and even able to learn. This one is at least asking questions
(albeit a little late in the piece...)!


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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:20:51 -0000, PeterD wrote:

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:43:34 +0000, sparky wrote:

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:21:09 GMT, John wrote:

Please, for safety sake, do not experiment with high voltage (like the
wall outlets) or high current (like car battery) devices until you
understand clearly what you were doing wrong. There's no magic
involved. But there are some potentially lethal hazards.

John


Okay John, I promise to keep away from the man's stuff.


Not "man's" stuff, but stuff you should know about first. Gender has
*nothing* to do with it.


Actually it does. The female brain and the male brain work in slighly different ways. Women are generally better at some things, and men better at others. This has been scientifically proven.

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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:43:34 -0000, sparky wrote:

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:21:09 GMT, John wrote:

PS: Sorry guys if I've upset you by encouraging a 'blond' but I happen
to know several intelligent blonds. Some are quite smart in their own
fields and even able to learn.


Huh?
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SjxY9rZwNGU
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=39qdhbkTko4


Brilliant!

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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:21:09 -0000, John wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:21:37 +0000, sparky wrote:

I ran out of petrol last night on a roundabout and blocked the traffic trying
to get on it. When my boyfriend came to rescue me he showed me how to "limp
it" out of the way using the starter motor. He pulled out a thick rubbery lead
from something, put the car in gear and let the power in the battery do all
the work. I was amazed, but when we got home, after watching him check the
battery with his little pocket meter, I was confused. Why didn't this powerful
battery set fire to such a small pocket meter when it had so much power in it?
I know the battery had loads of power left because I tested it by laying one
of his long screwdrivers across the lead terminals. It was so powerful that I
ended up melting one of them and damaged his screwdriver. Before I could ask
anything he sent me inside. The screwdriver was a long and thin one, but
thicker than the skinny wires on his pocket meter, so why did it get so hot
and cause such a massive spark? When he came in I asked him again, but he
refused to tell me, saying I should leave electrics to the experts. This
morning, after he left for work, I went back into the garage to do an
experiment. I found some thin wire similar in thickness to the wires on his
pocket meter and connect the ends to the battery. It melted before I could
disconnect it, so what's going on here? I had to pull it off with some
cardboard in my hand because I would've had a nasty burn without it. It really
was that hot, and it looked like it was getting hotter. It even started to
melt the battery's plastic. Do some wires have something in them to stop them
getting so hot? Why are the wires going to my kettle cold? Why do boyfriends
treat their girlfriends like idiots? We're the same age (22) but he talks to
me like I'm only half that age sometimes, so that's why I'm asking here. Am I
in the right newsgroup?


Hi,

Firstly, let me apologise for some of the responses you got here. LL
is correct. You need to know more about these things before playing
with car batteries. A lot more.

People are generally pretty relaxed about batteries but wouldn't dream
of playing with high voltage stuff. But believe me, car batteries may
be only low voltage but can deliver quite a lot of current, creating a
lot of heat very quickly if you short circuit them as you did.

Firstly, wait until your boyfriend has settled down. Remember, you
just destroyed a favourite screwdriver. Then ask him if he'll spend
some time explaining the basics to you. As someone else noted, he may
not know much or may not be a good/patient teacher. At a guess, he's
not totally ignorant on electrical stuff - he at least owns a meter.
And you're at least tech-literate enough to find your way into this
forum. On a personal note, if he won't help or at least point you to
help, flick him.


Are you suggesting she leave her boyfriend over this? Or did you mean she should flick his ear?



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On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:39:11 -0000, "Peter Hucker"
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:20:51 -0000, PeterD wrote:

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:43:34 +0000, sparky wrote:

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:21:09 GMT, John wrote:

Please, for safety sake, do not experiment with high voltage (like the
wall outlets) or high current (like car battery) devices until you
understand clearly what you were doing wrong. There's no magic
involved. But there are some potentially lethal hazards.

John

Okay John, I promise to keep away from the man's stuff.


Not "man's" stuff, but stuff you should know about first. Gender has
*nothing* to do with it.


Actually it does. The female brain and the male brain work in slighly different ways.
Women are generally better at some things, and men better at others.
This has been scientifically proven.


Which doesn't explain your problems, right? Gender has *nothing* to do
with it, a woman is just as capable of doing electronics and
electrical work as a man.
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:21:09 -0000, John wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:21:37 +0000, sparky wrote:

I ran out of petrol last night on a roundabout and blocked the traffic trying
to get on it. When my boyfriend came to rescue me he showed me how to "limp
it" out of the way using the starter motor. He pulled out a thick rubbery lead
from something, put the car in gear and let the power in the battery do all
the work. I was amazed, but when we got home, after watching him check the
battery with his little pocket meter, I was confused. Why didn't this powerful
battery set fire to such a small pocket meter when it had so much power in it?
I know the battery had loads of power left because I tested it by laying one
of his long screwdrivers across the lead terminals. It was so powerful that I
ended up melting one of them and damaged his screwdriver. Before I could ask
anything he sent me inside. The screwdriver was a long and thin one, but
thicker than the skinny wires on his pocket meter, so why did it get so hot
and cause such a massive spark? When he came in I asked him again, but he
refused to tell me, saying I should leave electrics to the experts. This
morning, after he left for work, I went back into the garage to do an
experiment. I found some thin wire similar in thickness to the wires on his
pocket meter and connect the ends to the battery. It melted before I could
disconnect it, so what's going on here? I had to pull it off with some
cardboard in my hand because I would've had a nasty burn without it. It really
was that hot, and it looked like it was getting hotter. It even started to
melt the battery's plastic. Do some wires have something in them to stop them
getting so hot? Why are the wires going to my kettle cold? Why do boyfriends
treat their girlfriends like idiots? We're the same age (22) but he talks to
me like I'm only half that age sometimes, so that's why I'm asking here. Am I
in the right newsgroup?


Hi,

Firstly, let me apologise for some of the responses you got here. LL
is correct. You need to know more about these things before playing
with car batteries. A lot more.

People are generally pretty relaxed about batteries but wouldn't dream
of playing with high voltage stuff. But believe me, car batteries may
be only low voltage but can deliver quite a lot of current, creating a
lot of heat very quickly if you short circuit them as you did.

Firstly, wait until your boyfriend has settled down. Remember, you
just destroyed a favourite screwdriver. Then ask him if he'll spend
some time explaining the basics to you. As someone else noted, he may
not know much or may not be a good/patient teacher. At a guess, he's
not totally ignorant on electrical stuff - he at least owns a meter.
And you're at least tech-literate enough to find your way into this
forum. On a personal note, if he won't help or at least point you to
help, flick him.


Are you suggesting she leave her boyfriend over this? Or did you mean she should flick his ear?


If the BF is abusive, yes, leave him...


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On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:34:17 -0000, PeterD wrote:

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:39:11 -0000, "Peter Hucker"
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:20:51 -0000, PeterD wrote:

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:43:34 +0000, sparky wrote:

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:21:09 GMT, John wrote:

Please, for safety sake, do not experiment with high voltage (like the
wall outlets) or high current (like car battery) devices until you
understand clearly what you were doing wrong. There's no magic
involved. But there are some potentially lethal hazards.

John

Okay John, I promise to keep away from the man's stuff.

Not "man's" stuff, but stuff you should know about first. Gender has
*nothing* to do with it.


Actually it does. The female brain and the male brain work in slighly different ways.
Women are generally better at some things, and men better at others.
This has been scientifically proven.


Which doesn't explain your problems, right? Gender has *nothing* to do
with it, a woman is just as capable of doing electronics and
electrical work as a man.


Most are not. As I said above, their brains work differently.

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On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:38:42 -0000, PeterD wrote:

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:39:37 -0000, "Peter Hucker"
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:21:09 -0000, John wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:21:37 +0000, sparky wrote:

I ran out of petrol last night on a roundabout and blocked the traffic trying
to get on it. When my boyfriend came to rescue me he showed me how to "limp
it" out of the way using the starter motor. He pulled out a thick rubbery lead
from something, put the car in gear and let the power in the battery do all
the work. I was amazed, but when we got home, after watching him check the
battery with his little pocket meter, I was confused. Why didn't this powerful
battery set fire to such a small pocket meter when it had so much power in it?
I know the battery had loads of power left because I tested it by laying one
of his long screwdrivers across the lead terminals. It was so powerful that I
ended up melting one of them and damaged his screwdriver. Before I could ask
anything he sent me inside. The screwdriver was a long and thin one, but
thicker than the skinny wires on his pocket meter, so why did it get so hot
and cause such a massive spark? When he came in I asked him again, but he
refused to tell me, saying I should leave electrics to the experts. This
morning, after he left for work, I went back into the garage to do an
experiment. I found some thin wire similar in thickness to the wires on his
pocket meter and connect the ends to the battery. It melted before I could
disconnect it, so what's going on here? I had to pull it off with some
cardboard in my hand because I would've had a nasty burn without it. It really
was that hot, and it looked like it was getting hotter. It even started to
melt the battery's plastic. Do some wires have something in them to stop them
getting so hot? Why are the wires going to my kettle cold? Why do boyfriends
treat their girlfriends like idiots? We're the same age (22) but he talks to
me like I'm only half that age sometimes, so that's why I'm asking here. Am I
in the right newsgroup?

Hi,

Firstly, let me apologise for some of the responses you got here. LL
is correct. You need to know more about these things before playing
with car batteries. A lot more.

People are generally pretty relaxed about batteries but wouldn't dream
of playing with high voltage stuff. But believe me, car batteries may
be only low voltage but can deliver quite a lot of current, creating a
lot of heat very quickly if you short circuit them as you did.

Firstly, wait until your boyfriend has settled down. Remember, you
just destroyed a favourite screwdriver. Then ask him if he'll spend
some time explaining the basics to you. As someone else noted, he may
not know much or may not be a good/patient teacher. At a guess, he's
not totally ignorant on electrical stuff - he at least owns a meter.
And you're at least tech-literate enough to find your way into this
forum. On a personal note, if he won't help or at least point you to
help, flick him.


Are you suggesting she leave her boyfriend over this? Or did you mean she should flick his ear?


If the BF is abusive, yes, leave him...


What I don't understand is women who are with obviously thuggish blokes. Then they complain when they get drunk and bet them up.


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Peter Hucker wrote:
I'm intolerant of stupidity because I see stupid people every day.
It gets tedious...


Well stop looking in the miorror when you do your teeth then !

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sparky wrote:


Listen up, Peter. I'm quite aware that if you ask a stupid question
you can only expect a stupid answer, and that's exactly what I got.
However, though it may have sounded like a stupid question to you, it
didn't deserve a stupid answer because I asked it in good faith. My
boyfriend says it's all to do with resistance to the current flow in
the wire, and that if the wire is long and thin enough it won't get
hot. ('ro' x 'l') / 'a' where 'ro' is the resistivity of the wire's
material, 'l' is the length of the wire, and 'a' is the thickness of
it in metres. I'm still not sure exactly what it means, but at least
I now have something to go on in my google searches to find an
answer. You don't have to help me if it's beneath you to talk to a
girl about electricity. I'm used to that kind of intolerance from
insecure men. Jeeze, I'm glad I the foresight to change my name
before embarrassing myself here.


Please don't get interested in mains electricity.

geoff


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On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:13:23 -0000, geoff wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:
I'm intolerant of stupidity because I see stupid people every day.
It gets tedious...


Well stop looking in the miorror when you do your teeth then !


"I know you are" variants are not permitted in this group. You will not be warned again.

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Peter Hucker wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:13:23 -0000, geoff
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Peter Hucker wrote:
I'm intolerant of stupidity because I see stupid people every day.
It gets tedious...


Well stop looking in the miorror when you do your teeth then !


"I know you are" variants are not permitted in this group. You will
not be warned again.


Then what ?

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On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:33:23 +1300, "geoff"
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Peter Hucker wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:13:23 -0000, geoff
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Peter Hucker wrote:
I'm intolerant of stupidity because I see stupid people every day.
It gets tedious...

Well stop looking in the miorror when you do your teeth then !


"I know you are" variants are not permitted in this group. You will
not be warned again.


Then what ?


No question about it, he'll refuse to answer any more of your posts...
It would be much too optimistic to expect him to twit filter you,
right? g
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