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Google is being very evasive on this one!
28WN20. Pretty sure the degauss thermistor has shattered and I'd rather not have to hand trace to figure out whether its a PTC/PTC or PTC/NTC type. Thanks for any help. |
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On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 2:27:27 PM UTC-4, Ian Field wrote:
Google is being very evasive on this one! 28WN20. Pretty sure the degauss thermistor has shattered and I'd rather not have to hand trace to figure out whether its a PTC/PTC or PTC/NTC type. Thanks for any help. https://english.electronica-pt.com/e...ch?find=MATSUI Maybe here? Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
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![]() " wrote in message ... On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 2:27:27 PM UTC-4, Ian Field wrote: Google is being very evasive on this one! 28WN20. Pretty sure the degauss thermistor has shattered and I'd rather not have to hand trace to figure out whether its a PTC/PTC or PTC/NTC type. Thanks for any help. https://english.electronica-pt.com/e...ch?find=MATSUI Maybe here? Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA Many thanks - also found info on the Hitachi that phutted yesterday. |
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On Tuesday, 14 August 2018 19:27:27 UTC+1, Ian Field wrote:
Google is being very evasive on this one! 28WN20. Pretty sure the degauss thermistor has shattered and I'd rather not have to hand trace to figure out whether its a PTC/PTC or PTC/NTC type. Thanks for any help. usually degaussing doesn't need to be fixed unless you move the tv. The dual element thermistor can most likely be replaced by a standard one from almost any other colour tv. NT |
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![]() wrote in message ... On Tuesday, 14 August 2018 19:27:27 UTC+1, Ian Field wrote: Google is being very evasive on this one! 28WN20. Pretty sure the degauss thermistor has shattered and I'd rather not have to hand trace to figure out whether its a PTC/PTC or PTC/NTC type. Thanks for any help. usually degaussing doesn't need to be fixed unless you move the tv. The dual element thermistor can most likely be replaced by a standard one from almost any other colour tv. Incorrect: there are 2 types - the usual one is dual PTC, the "spare" PTC is directly across the mains to heat the active one and cut it off. the very early single PTC had a load resistor and fed to the coils via a 68V VDR. Some are PTC/NTC - the NTC is heated by the current draw of the TV/monitor which also provides inrush surge limiting. My TV has a single PTC and a time delay relay - fairly common on PC monitors. Some had a front panel degauss button so you could do it manually as well as at power up. The most common failure mode is the thermistor pellet sometimes shatters - my TV also has some electronics that could fail. |
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On Wednesday, 15 August 2018 18:21:05 UTC+1, Ian Field wrote:
tabbypurr wrote in message ... On Tuesday, 14 August 2018 19:27:27 UTC+1, Ian Field wrote: Google is being very evasive on this one! 28WN20. Pretty sure the degauss thermistor has shattered and I'd rather not have to hand trace to figure out whether its a PTC/PTC or PTC/NTC type. Thanks for any help. usually degaussing doesn't need to be fixed unless you move the tv. The dual element thermistor can most likely be replaced by a standard one from almost any other colour tv. Incorrect: there are 2 types - the usual one is dual PTC, the "spare" PTC is directly across the mains to heat the active one and cut it off. the very early single PTC had a load resistor and fed to the coils via a 68V VDR. Some are PTC/NTC - the NTC is heated by the current draw of the TV/monitor which also provides inrush surge limiting. My TV has a single PTC and a time delay relay - fairly common on PC monitors. Some had a front panel degauss button so you could do it manually as well as at power up. The most common failure mode is the thermistor pellet sometimes shatters - my TV also has some electronics that could fail. So plenty to choose from. Motor & magnet is another option. NT |
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![]() wrote in message ... On Wednesday, 15 August 2018 18:21:05 UTC+1, Ian Field wrote: tabbypurr wrote in message ... On Tuesday, 14 August 2018 19:27:27 UTC+1, Ian Field wrote: Google is being very evasive on this one! 28WN20. Pretty sure the degauss thermistor has shattered and I'd rather not have to hand trace to figure out whether its a PTC/PTC or PTC/NTC type. Thanks for any help. usually degaussing doesn't need to be fixed unless you move the tv. The dual element thermistor can most likely be replaced by a standard one from almost any other colour tv. Incorrect: there are 2 types - the usual one is dual PTC, the "spare" PTC is directly across the mains to heat the active one and cut it off. the very early single PTC had a load resistor and fed to the coils via a 68V VDR. Some are PTC/NTC - the NTC is heated by the current draw of the TV/monitor which also provides inrush surge limiting. My TV has a single PTC and a time delay relay - fairly common on PC monitors. Some had a front panel degauss button so you could do it manually as well as at power up. The most common failure mode is the thermistor pellet sometimes shatters - my TV also has some electronics that could fail. So plenty to choose from. Motor & magnet is another option. Choose away - fitting a PTC/NTC where a PTC/PTC should be; usually blows away a few copper tracks. |
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