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Toshiba RPTV 50H72 - blue screen only
This TV only shows blue screen. When I go into setup, I can see that
red and green CRTs are working (I see green and red colors) but the screen background stays blue. When I connect a DVD player, the screen briefly shows real picture but then turns completely blue. Ditto when I turn the TV off with DVD running (picture shows for an instant before TV turns OFF). I think video apms that drive yokes are suspect..but wanted to confirm with someone before I order the ICs and replace them. I checked all power supplies and they are OK (specially to the video amp ICs). All components I checked seem fine (atleast the ones I checked showed appropriate behavior). Any suggestions are appreciated. bharat |
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Toshiba RPTV 50H72 - blue screen only
There may be a loss of sync to the scan circuits, or there may be a response
problem in the video path, thus not allowing proper sync. You would have to get the service manual, and trace through with a scope to see where this type of fault is. Also, checking for the proper supply voltages in the various stages would be a proper thing to do. If you are not trained and equipped in TV service, I would suggest to have the set properly looked after. -- Greetings, Jerry Greenberg GLG Technologies GLG ========================================= WebPage http://www.zoom-one.com Electronics http://www.zoom-one.com/electron.htm ========================================= "bharat" wrote in message om... This TV only shows blue screen. When I go into setup, I can see that red and green CRTs are working (I see green and red colors) but the screen background stays blue. When I connect a DVD player, the screen briefly shows real picture but then turns completely blue. Ditto when I turn the TV off with DVD running (picture shows for an instant before TV turns OFF). I think video apms that drive yokes are suspect..but wanted to confirm with someone before I order the ICs and replace them. I checked all power supplies and they are OK (specially to the video amp ICs). All components I checked seem fine (atleast the ones I checked showed appropriate behavior). Any suggestions are appreciated. bharat |
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Ditto on the find someone who knows what they are doing.
This statement (typo fixed) clearly indicates a total lack of understanding of what is going on inside the set: " I think video amps that drive yokes are suspect." David "Jerry G." wrote in message ... There may be a loss of sync to the scan circuits, or there may be a response problem in the video path, thus not allowing proper sync. You would have to get the service manual, and trace through with a scope to see where this type of fault is. Also, checking for the proper supply voltages in the various stages would be a proper thing to do. If you are not trained and equipped in TV service, I would suggest to have the set properly looked after. -- Greetings, Jerry Greenberg GLG Technologies GLG ========================================= WebPage http://www.zoom-one.com Electronics http://www.zoom-one.com/electron.htm ========================================= "bharat" wrote in message om... This TV only shows blue screen. When I go into setup, I can see that red and green CRTs are working (I see green and red colors) but the screen background stays blue. When I connect a DVD player, the screen briefly shows real picture but then turns completely blue. Ditto when I turn the TV off with DVD running (picture shows for an instant before TV turns OFF). I think video apms that drive yokes are suspect..but wanted to confirm with someone before I order the ICs and replace them. I checked all power supplies and they are OK (specially to the video amp ICs). All components I checked seem fine (atleast the ones I checked showed appropriate behavior). Any suggestions are appreciated. bharat |
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"David" wrote in message ...
Ditto on the find someone who knows what they are doing. This statement (typo fixed) clearly indicates a total lack of understanding of what is going on inside the set: " I think video amps that drive yokes are suspect." This newsgroup is for help. If you cannot provide any help, please stay off the line. If I knew what was wrong, I would not have posted the article in the first place. There was a post previously in this newsgroup where the person was seeing all green screen...the hints were for checking the video amps. So I assumed that would be a first place to start. Your typo-corrected sentence is same as mine. May be you should get some education before getting on the net, you !@#$%^! Send me your email address and we can take this discussion about your intelligence and mine off the newsgroup. bharat |
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So what is an apms?
It still is clear in your posting that you have no clue how a tv set or rptv works. We just went through court because someone idiot bought a part from us (we looked up the part number at his request) and the idiot wound up catching the tv and house on fire!!!!! So he tried to sue us!!! So don't go telling me that you think you know what you are doing when it is clear in your post that you do not. Assuming what you said was video amps, video amps do not drive yokes, period. "bharat" wrote in message om... "David" wrote in message ... Ditto on the find someone who knows what they are doing. This statement (typo fixed) clearly indicates a total lack of understanding of what is going on inside the set: " I think video amps that drive yokes are suspect." This newsgroup is for help. If you cannot provide any help, please stay off the line. If I knew what was wrong, I would not have posted the article in the first place. There was a post previously in this newsgroup where the person was seeing all green screen...the hints were for checking the video amps. So I assumed that would be a first place to start. Your typo-corrected sentence is same as mine. May be you should get some education before getting on the net, you !@#$%^! Send me your email address and we can take this discussion about your intelligence and mine off the newsgroup. bharat |
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Get the flippin set to a Qualified Service Company or consider replacing it
with a new one. It is perfectly obvious that you do not have the qualifications to be attempting to service this product competently. Do yourself a BIG Favor and have it done by the folk who do know how to do it efficiently and safely. "bharat" wrote in message om... This TV only shows blue screen. When I go into setup, I can see that red and green CRTs are working (I see green and red colors) but the screen background stays blue. When I connect a DVD player, the screen briefly shows real picture but then turns completely blue. Ditto when I turn the TV off with DVD running (picture shows for an instant before TV turns OFF). I think video apms that drive yokes are suspect..but wanted to confirm with someone before I order the ICs and replace them. I checked all power supplies and they are OK (specially to the video amp ICs). All components I checked seem fine (atleast the ones I checked showed appropriate behavior). Any suggestions are appreciated. bharat |
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Toshiba RPTV 50H72 - blue screen only
On Sun, 2 May 2004 15:16:46 -0400, "Art" wrote:
Get the flippin set to a Qualified Service Company or consider replacing it with a new one. It is perfectly obvious that you do not have the qualifications to be attempting to service this product competently. Do yourself a BIG Favor and have it done by the folk who do know how to do it efficiently and safely. Agreed. Pay a little now, or a lot later. That's an excellent TV - it's worth a couple bucks to get it repaired. Alan Harriman "bharat" wrote in message . com... This TV only shows blue screen. When I go into setup, I can see that red and green CRTs are working (I see green and red colors) but the screen background stays blue. When I connect a DVD player, the screen briefly shows real picture but then turns completely blue. Ditto when I turn the TV off with DVD running (picture shows for an instant before TV turns OFF). I think video apms that drive yokes are suspect..but wanted to confirm with someone before I order the ICs and replace them. I checked all power supplies and they are OK (specially to the video amp ICs). All components I checked seem fine (atleast the ones I checked showed appropriate behavior). Any suggestions are appreciated. bharat |
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Wow, I have never seen so many arrogant people in one newsgroup at the same
time. If you can't help, then just don't say anything. "Art" wrote in message ... Get the flippin set to a Qualified Service Company or consider replacing it with a new one. It is perfectly obvious that you do not have the qualifications to be attempting to service this product competently. Do yourself a BIG Favor and have it done by the folk who do know how to do it efficiently and safely. "bharat" wrote in message om... This TV only shows blue screen. When I go into setup, I can see that red and green CRTs are working (I see green and red colors) but the screen background stays blue. When I connect a DVD player, the screen briefly shows real picture but then turns completely blue. Ditto when I turn the TV off with DVD running (picture shows for an instant before TV turns OFF). I think video apms that drive yokes are suspect..but wanted to confirm with someone before I order the ICs and replace them. I checked all power supplies and they are OK (specially to the video amp ICs). All components I checked seem fine (atleast the ones I checked showed appropriate behavior). Any suggestions are appreciated. bharat |
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We are helping him. If someone clearly has no clue what is going on, they
are probably going to do one of two things when they attempt to repair something as complex as a tv set: 1. damage it beyond reasonable and practical repair when they finally take it into someone qualified. or 2. Get into something they shouldn't have and cause some potentially lethal or serious injury to themselves. "Eugen T" wrote in message .. . Wow, I have never seen so many arrogant people in one newsgroup at the same time. If you can't help, then just don't say anything. "Art" wrote in message ... Get the flippin set to a Qualified Service Company or consider replacing it with a new one. It is perfectly obvious that you do not have the qualifications to be attempting to service this product competently. Do yourself a BIG Favor and have it done by the folk who do know how to do it efficiently and safely. "bharat" wrote in message om... This TV only shows blue screen. When I go into setup, I can see that red and green CRTs are working (I see green and red colors) but the screen background stays blue. When I connect a DVD player, the screen briefly shows real picture but then turns completely blue. Ditto when I turn the TV off with DVD running (picture shows for an instant before TV turns OFF). I think video apms that drive yokes are suspect..but wanted to confirm with someone before I order the ICs and replace them. I checked all power supplies and they are OK (specially to the video amp ICs). All components I checked seem fine (atleast the ones I checked showed appropriate behavior). Any suggestions are appreciated. bharat |
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Toshiba RPTV 50H72 - blue screen only
Let me make a few things clear to answer your !@#$%^&*() arrogance.
Video amps are video amplifiers located in Q751 and Q752 on the signal board. They drive yokes directly. In case any of you arrogant morons had time and knowledge to understand what a schmatic looks like, you would clearly see where video amplifiers are located. In adition, amps is shorthand for amplifiers - any person knowledgable in Electrical Engineering knows that. Next time, try to understand the posting before replying. Your assumption that if you do not understand something then it must be wrong is stupid! Secondly, a while back in this newsgroup, there was a posting where someone had green screen problem similar to mine. The solution posted on the net was that the power supply to video amplifiers was suspect. Hence my intuition regarding video amps (oops, I mean video amplifiers for you intellectually-challenged guys). Many of us know and understand the danger in repairing a TV set - not just you arrogant !@$$%&*. By the way, I have a PhD in electrical engineering and probably can run circles around you when it comes to knowledge of electrical engineering. However, I do not know specifically how to fix a TV and hence the posting. If I had the time, I can understand the circuit and then figure out what is wrong. I was hoping that this newsgroup, with its collective knowledge, will help me fix this. Your arrogant replies regarding "what is amps" itself shows that you do not have a clue as to what an "amplifier" is. Take a few educational courses (or read a book) before you start yelling at people. Again, this newsgroup is for help. If you can help, please by all means do so. If you do not understand what an "amps" is, do everyone a favor and stop wasting bandwidth. By the way, I am going to check the sync signals (for you stupids, it is synchronization signals) to see if the problem lies there as pointed out by more considerate members of this newsgroup. I thank them. bharat |
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Video amps are video amplifiers located in Q751 and Q752 on the signal
board. They drive yokes directly. Video amplifiers do not drive yokes. Deflection circuitry drives = deflection yokes. I have a PhD in electrical enginnering also, but not = the attitude you have. David |
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David is completely correct, video amps don't drive yokes. I suppose they
didn't teach you that in electrical engineering. Actually, Q751 and Q752 are convergence amplifiers, not video amplifiers, and are likely not your problem. If one of these failed you would see convergence problems, the set would shut down, or it would blow fuse(s) and shut down. If you are getting a blue screen it is likely that you have lost signal and the set is muting the video. Your problem could be anything from not knowing how to operate the set to a problem anywhere in the signal path. If you are looking for video amplifiers you are looking in the wrong area. You might want to check your assumptions and your reading of the schematic before losing it on a forum where you are asking for help. Your post indicated exactly what David noted, that you may be in over your head. Now, if you want some help, why not tell us what equipment you have, and what measurements you have taken and the signal conditions under which they were taken. A few of us arrogant morons, as you put it, have quite a lot of experience that we might be willing to share. Understand, however, that if you don't have the right equipment, knowledge, and troubleshooting skills, this may not be a realistic repair for you to attempt. Your attitude and your PhD will not necessarily help in fixing your set. A scope, some humility, and some TV service skills would go a lot farther. Leonard Pedantic asshole, maybe...arrogant moron, not usually "bharat" wrote in message om... Let me make a few things clear to answer your !@#$%^&*() arrogance. Video amps are video amplifiers located in Q751 and Q752 on the signal board. They drive yokes directly. In case any of you arrogant morons had time and knowledge to understand what a schmatic looks like, you would clearly see where video amplifiers are located. In adition, amps is shorthand for amplifiers - any person knowledgable in Electrical Engineering knows that. Next time, try to understand the posting before replying. Your assumption that if you do not understand something then it must be wrong is stupid! Secondly, a while back in this newsgroup, there was a posting where someone had green screen problem similar to mine. The solution posted on the net was that the power supply to video amplifiers was suspect. Hence my intuition regarding video amps (oops, I mean video amplifiers for you intellectually-challenged guys). Many of us know and understand the danger in repairing a TV set - not just you arrogant !@$$%&*. By the way, I have a PhD in electrical engineering and probably can run circles around you when it comes to knowledge of electrical engineering. However, I do not know specifically how to fix a TV and hence the posting. If I had the time, I can understand the circuit and then figure out what is wrong. I was hoping that this newsgroup, with its collective knowledge, will help me fix this. Your arrogant replies regarding "what is amps" itself shows that you do not have a clue as to what an "amplifier" is. Take a few educational courses (or read a book) before you start yelling at people. Again, this newsgroup is for help. If you can help, please by all means do so. If you do not understand what an "amps" is, do everyone a favor and stop wasting bandwidth. By the way, I am going to check the sync signals (for you stupids, it is synchronization signals) to see if the problem lies there as pointed out by more considerate members of this newsgroup. I thank them. bharat |
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You are still totally clueless. Talk about a worthless phd if you really
have one, which I doubt given the new post where you try and prove that you know what you are talking about. Not even close again. Q751 and Q752 are not video amps. (at least you spelled it correctly this time). They are AUDIO amplifier output ic's being used as convergence output amplifiers. I totally understood the posting and the fact that you did not understand electronics enough to try and attempt a repair. It is even more clear that you have no business whatever your so called worthless paper degree is in to be inside the tv attempting a repair on it. Especially since you cannot read or spell, (apms vs amps, not the same thing dumbass) doubtful you have any college degree. I pity the reputation of any college that actually gave you a degree. At least you did not try and call it 'snyc' this time around. "bharat" wrote in message om... Let me make a few things clear to answer your !@#$%^&*() arrogance. Video amps are video amplifiers located in Q751 and Q752 on the signal board. They drive yokes directly. In case any of you arrogant morons had time and knowledge to understand what a schmatic looks like, you would clearly see where video amplifiers are located. In adition, amps is shorthand for amplifiers - any person knowledgable in Electrical Engineering knows that. Next time, try to understand the posting before replying. Your assumption that if you do not understand something then it must be wrong is stupid! Secondly, a while back in this newsgroup, there was a posting where someone had green screen problem similar to mine. The solution posted on the net was that the power supply to video amplifiers was suspect. Hence my intuition regarding video amps (oops, I mean video amplifiers for you intellectually-challenged guys). Many of us know and understand the danger in repairing a TV set - not just you arrogant !@$$%&*. By the way, I have a PhD in electrical engineering and probably can run circles around you when it comes to knowledge of electrical engineering. However, I do not know specifically how to fix a TV and hence the posting. If I had the time, I can understand the circuit and then figure out what is wrong. I was hoping that this newsgroup, with its collective knowledge, will help me fix this. Your arrogant replies regarding "what is amps" itself shows that you do not have a clue as to what an "amplifier" is. Take a few educational courses (or read a book) before you start yelling at people. Again, this newsgroup is for help. If you can help, please by all means do so. If you do not understand what an "amps" is, do everyone a favor and stop wasting bandwidth. By the way, I am going to check the sync signals (for you stupids, it is synchronization signals) to see if the problem lies there as pointed out by more considerate members of this newsgroup. I thank them. bharat |
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