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Recording tv witha stand-alone DVDR?
I have two friends who got Verizon FIOS TV, but who don't pay rental
on the DVDR that Verizon offers. IIUC, they have no way to record television, a step down from when they had a VCR and cable or an antenna. Is there a way to connect either a VCR or a stand-alone** DVDR so they can record tv and watch it later. One has a VCR and the other has a Philips DVDR with built-in digital and analog tuners. **Obviously, it can't be totally alone. I don't know what the term is but I mean a model designed to work off the air (and/or off cable tv??), or any model that is sold alone and not rented out by Verizon or a cable company. Thanks. |
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Recording tv witha stand-alone DVDR?
On 3/25/2013 11:09 AM, micky wrote:
I have two friends who got Verizon FIOS TV, but who don't pay rental on the DVDR that Verizon offers. IIUC, they have no way to record television, a step down from when they had a VCR and cable or an antenna. Is there a way to connect either a VCR or a stand-alone** DVDR so they can record tv and watch it later. One has a VCR and the other has a Philips DVDR with built-in digital and analog tuners. **Obviously, it can't be totally alone. I don't know what the term is but I mean a model designed to work off the air (and/or off cable tv??), or any model that is sold alone and not rented out by Verizon or a cable company. Thanks. Ya me to, is there a stand alone DVR that I can buy and not pay a monthly subscription charge? Mikek |
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Recording tv witha stand-alone DVDR?
Per Lawrence:
or a MythTV box. If you can deal with the technology, that's a huge step up from a DVR. -- Pete Cresswell |
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Recording tv witha stand-alone DVDR?
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 16:27:09 -0500, Lawrence
wrote: On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:09:53 -0400, micky wrote: I don't know what the term is but I mean a model designed to work off the air (and/or off cable tv??), or any model that is sold alone and not rented out by Verizon or a cable company. Yes. But I'm still not sure if or how it would work if one has FIOS. Would it work with FIOS? I use mine with over the air stations. Don't have any of these models, but when my VCR's are beyond repair. I'll be looking at these. http://www.channelmaster.com/Set_Top_Boxes_Antenna_DVR_Subscription_Free_DVR_s/40.htm Thans for this page. Solidsignal.com sells some channelmaster stuff, including a non-PAL version of the DVDR. Probably better than the Magnavox below. www.walmart.com/ip/Magnavox-HDD-and-DVD-Recorder-with-Digital-Tuner-1TB/20710259 This is the new version of the Philips, (model DVDR3575H/37 You can probably ignore the /37). I mentioned that I have. The Philips is no longer being updated, but this is definitely made by the same people. (Where the features haven't changed (which was the vast majority of them when my friend bought one) the manuals are identical) Now they are selling models with 3 different size hard drives. (Mine has only 160G, which is actually big enough as long as one doesn't want to keep a big library or record more than he has time to watch. If otoh, one wants to keep a big library or record much more than he has time to watch, probably even a terabyte is not big enough. ) The PHilips had a long long thread in the popular AV web list. I hate weblists, but since it dealt directly with my device, I read all 500 or 1200 messages or more. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...44342787,d.dmQ There were 2 or 3 or more threads. One contained over 1000 messages. You should read that. Another contained maybe only 10, but a couple were important. Check here http://www.avsforum.com/f/106/dvd-re...s-standard-def Check all 333 threads subjects for the model number. Oops, there may be 15,000 threads. Maybe there's a way to search. if not at avsforum, Use google and the parameter site:www.avsforum.com and search for 3575H. That will do it. H means hardddrive. http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient...w=1024&bih=599 Maybe by now there is a thread for the channel master. One explained how to install a new HDD when the current one eventually fails. Easy mechanically and pretty easy as to formatting, but if I bought the Philips or Magnavox, I would definitely read and save that page, and some other pages which showed how to get hidden information by pressing the right keys. Sorry my info is so vague. I'll hunt for some details if anyone asks. The Philips had lots of flaws, but despite them, it's still wonderful to have. The first Magnavox has all but one of the same flaws afaik. (The one it doesn't have is you only have to say you want to delete a program (that you've already watched for example) 2 times not 3. That is, You only have to confirm the delete once, not twice.) For one thing, no good way of setting the time. It will set automatically but it's off by a minute or a little more. If you set it manually, the clock runs fast in 2 or 3 weeks, it's off by a minute. I set the timer to start a minute earlier and end a minute late, but that doesn't work when I want 30 minutes at 6:30 and 30 minutes at 7:00. Or when I want to watch The Rifleman and 6:00 and the timer insists on changing to another station at 6:29. It won't wait until 6:30 because I set it to start early, in case the clock is slow. It's logic is not always the best. Could have more preferences than it does. Minimum back up amount is 15 seconds and I would like 10. (This does not count going in reverse, but that takes more time.) I had four others that I warned my friend about. A new one is that sometimes it records a show, but when I go to play it, it displays a forward arrow, but it doesn't actually play, it wont' fast forward or skip forward, or do anything. I deleted a show because of this but later found I could go back 4 or 10 programs and play an old one that played, and after that, the new one would work too. 4 other times in the last 5 years, it's gotten stuck and I have to turn it off and back on for it to keep playing. (But it forgets where it was when that happens.) Also 3 times it has recorded a show of no length, and when I try to play it, the box freezes and can't even be turned off with the remote, have to push the button on the box. After turning it back on, the show can't be deleted either. (Unless one deletes every show on the harddrive) So these 3 entries in the list of recorded shows sit there like black holes if I'm foolish enough to try to play one. The memory says the date and time and station that was recorded, but the description, that it shows when not recording, doesn't show WHEN recording and doesn't get saved, so it can be hard to tell what a recorded show was without playing it. Even then I sometimes can't tell. (It does play in a little box, but it's usually a commercial that got recorded at 6:29 or 7:00PM. The DVDplayer recorder works well, but doesn't do PAL. One can copy from DVD to HDD and back. A lot of the manual deals with editing reordings, snipping and splicing. I never do that. I wish they had spent their time on other features. Maybe since they went to the trouble to add 2 more sizes of harddrives, they've fixed some of the many flaws. I wish I knew. Maybe the Channel Master has none of these problems, but when I bought mine, mine was 200 and the CM was about 400 or more. Now there is less difference, iiuc. (Or coure there is also the second-hand market that sometimes has one of these) The CM will record two programs at once, but the days are gone when there are two programs worth recording at the same time over the air. AFAIK, there was no detailed online discussion of the CM Other than that, I might buy the CM if I started fresh. If anyone does, please let me know how well it works and any problems it has. I don't real this busy group all the time so if you could email me at misc07 at bigfoot dot com, that would be great. or a MythTV box. Hadn't heard about this one |
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Recording tv witha stand-alone DVDR?
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... I have two friends who got Verizon FIOS TV, but who don't pay rental on the DVDR that Verizon offers. IIUC, they have no way to record television, a step down from when they had a VCR and cable or an antenna. Is there a way to connect either a VCR or a stand-alone** DVDR so they can record tv and watch it later. One has a VCR and the other has a Philips DVDR with built-in digital and analog tuners. **Obviously, it can't be totally alone. I don't know what the term is but I mean a model designed to work off the air (and/or off cable tv??), or any model that is sold alone and not rented out by Verizon or a cable company. Thanks. Do a google on Hauppage. Reasonable price, and basically sold everywhere. |
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Recording tv witha stand-alone DVDR?
Klaatu wrote: "micky" wrote in message ... I have two friends who got Verizon FIOS TV, but who don't pay rental on the DVDR that Verizon offers. IIUC, they have no way to record television, a step down from when they had a VCR and cable or an antenna. Is there a way to connect either a VCR or a stand-alone** DVDR so they can record tv and watch it later. One has a VCR and the other has a Philips DVDR with built-in digital and analog tuners. **Obviously, it can't be totally alone. I don't know what the term is but I mean a model designed to work off the air (and/or off cable tv??), or any model that is sold alone and not rented out by Verizon or a cable company. Thanks. Do a google on Hauppage. Reasonable price, and basically sold everywhere. Be careful if you buy one used. Their WinTV software is available on their website, but you need a CDROM to unlock it. They will sell you a disk for $10 plus shipping. -- Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is enough left over to pay them. Sometimes Friday is just the fifth Monday of the week. |
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