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Under therrmistor control. If at power up the DC voltage is too low to start
the fan can you always rely on the fan starting at some point with a slowly
increasing voltage or does it depend on the make/design of fan ?


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On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:07:03 +0100, "N_Cook" put
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Under therrmistor control. If at power up the DC voltage is too low to start
the fan can you always rely on the fan starting at some point with a slowly
increasing voltage or does it depend on the make/design of fan ?


FWIW, here is an article that shows the innards of a typical
thermistor controlled CPU fan:
http://www.pavouk.org/hw/fan/en_fan4wire.html

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On 3/28/2012 9:07 AM, N_Cook wrote:
Under thermistor control. If at power up the DC voltage is too low to start
the fan can you always rely on the fan starting at some point with a slowly
increasing voltage or does it depend on the make/design of fan ?


Different fans will start at different voltages.

Your circuit is NOT a thermistor and a fan in series, right?
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On 3/28/2012 9:07 AM, N_Cook wrote:
Under thermistor control. If at power up the DC voltage is too low to
start
the fan can you always rely on the fan starting at some point with a
slowly
increasing voltage or does it depend on the make/design of fan ?


Different fans will start at different voltages.

Your circuit is NOT a thermistor and a fan in series, right?
Mikek



I think the question is will the fan ALWAYS start with a slowly ramping
voltage, rather than perhaps sit there in a stalled state.



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Under therrmistor control. If at power up the DC voltage is too low to
start
the fan can you always rely on the fan starting at some point with a
slowly
increasing voltage or does it depend on the make/design of fan ?





Some Studiomaster Powered Mixers used to adopt this method - the fan would
sit there shaking like a ****eting dog, often making various squeeks, before
finally getting going.
It was driven by a TIP32.

I have no idea whether they specifically chose a fan that would always start
though.



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Some Studiomaster Powered Mixers used to adopt this method - the fan would
sit there shaking like a ****eting dog, often making various squeeks,
before finally getting going.
It was driven by a TIP32.



** A great many power amplifiers have the same kind of circuit.

BLDC fans start reliably when the applied DC voltage is about 33% of
ated - no matter how slowly the voltage rises.

IOW there is no need for a kick start.


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On 3/28/2012 9:07 AM, N_Cook wrote:
Under thermistor control. If at power up the DC voltage is too low to
start
the fan can you always rely on the fan starting at some point with a
slowly
increasing voltage or does it depend on the make/design of fan ?


Different fans will start at different voltages.

Your circuit is NOT a thermistor and a fan in series, right?
Mikek



I think the question is will the fan ALWAYS start with a slowly ramping
voltage, rather than perhaps sit there in a stalled state.



Gareth.



3 fans fed from the same varying supply. 2 large , one small, all nominally
12V. The 2 large start with the applied "cold" voltage and eventually the
small one starts with warming of the amp . Checked by slowly powering from
a bench ps a few tmes . But I randomly picked up another new fan that I had
about and once out of 10 or so times it did not start by the time it had
reached 12V. I decided as this amp was never used for low power use that I
would disable the ramping and set it on maximum drive always, not worth the
risk/inconvenience of stressed components/mid-performance chance of a cut
out


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