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IC Package Drawing Database?
I've been searching the net for a comprehensive list of drawings of IC
packages, specifically, all things "SO" (ie, SO, SOP, TSOP, SSOP, TVSOP, etc.). What does come up are lists of packages, but no drawings. I need to have dimensions listed as well, similar to what is typically provided in datasheets. Thanks. |
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IC Package Drawing Database?
DaveC Inscribed thus:
I've been searching the net for a comprehensive list of drawings of IC packages, specifically, all things "SO" (ie, SO, SOP, TSOP, SSOP, TVSOP, etc.). What does come up are lists of packages, but no drawings. I need to have dimensions listed as well, similar to what is typically provided in datasheets. Thanks. Thats your answer, grab the data sheets. ;-) -- Best Regards: Baron. |
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IC Package Drawing Database?
On Jun 9, 1:29*pm, DaveC wrote:
I've been searching the net for a comprehensive list of drawings of IC packages, specifically, all things "SO" (ie, SO, SOP, TSOP, SSOP, TVSOP, etc.). What does come up are lists of packages, but no drawings. I need to have dimensions listed as well, similar to what is typically provided in datasheets. Thanks. This is good. http://www.fairchildsemi.com/packaging/ Dan |
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IC Package Drawing Database?
Thats your answer, grab the data sheets. ;-)
That's what I resort to, although it really would be nice if there was a one stop shop of package drawings or dimensions. There are so many different packages now that I can't keep track of them all. For example this datasheet has 5 different package drawings that it calls "Small Outline Package", all with different dimensions: http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/sn74hct244.pdf Isn't the idea of a package "name" supposed be a single identity including dimensions (differing, of course, in length, to accommodate different pin counts)? From the same manufacturer, no less... Thanks, Dave |
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IC Package Drawing Database?
http://www.fairchildsemi.com/packaging/
According to this source, the same package (listed in the TI datasheet as "SOP") might a large SOIC-20: http://www.fairchildsemi.com/products/logic/packaging/soic20.html Am I the only one confused? |
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IC Package Drawing Database?
DaveC wrote: http://www.fairchildsemi.com/packaging/ According to this source, the same package (listed in the TI datasheet as "SOP") might a large SOIC-20: http://www.fairchildsemi.com/products/logic/packaging/soic20.html Am I the only one confused? Probably. SOP = Small Outline Package SOIC = Small Outline IC -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. |
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IC Package Drawing Database?
DaveC wrote:
http://www.fairchildsemi.com/packaging/ According to this source, the same package (listed in the TI datasheet as "SOP") might a large SOIC-20: http://www.fairchildsemi.com/products/logic/packaging/soic20.html Am I the only one confused? That's another problem, there are special package types that are called different things depending on the manufacture. I've recently worked on some designs around TI chips in their "PowerPAD" packages which are SOIC and SSOP equivalent but with an exposed metal pad under the die, and of course different names. I've gone to just ignoring all the packages included in the PCB software and drawing my own from the datasheet of each part I use, it's less hassle in the long run. |
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IC Package Drawing Database?
In article ,
says... I've been searching the net for a comprehensive list of drawings of IC packages, specifically, all things "SO" (ie, SO, SOP, TSOP, SSOP, TVSOP, etc.). What does come up are lists of packages, but no drawings. I need to have dimensions listed as well, similar to what is typically provided in datasheets. Thanks. This is pretty good : http://www.latticesemi.com/lit/docs/package/pkg.pdf |
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James Sweet wrote in
: I've gone to just ignoring all the packages included in the PCB software and drawing my own from the datasheet of each part I use, it's less hassle in the long run. I agree, I do that too. I collect them slowly and reuse them. Considering SMT is full of 'standards' it's amazing how there are so many, and some so loose, that there might as well not be any. When I saw Baron's post I saw pretty much the same thing I was going to say when I first saw the original post. I hadn't replied, because I'd hoped that the standards were adequately adhered to, and that someone who knows far more than I do might point out a definitive source, but most replies here seem to suggest that only going to the source of the part to be used is going to get viable data for it. Maybe not even then. Sometimes I get the bright light, the maginfier, the digital vernier scale, and measure the damn things myself! That way I KNOW it fits. |
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IC Package Drawing Database?
http://www.latticesemi.com/lit/docs/package/pkg.pdf
Thanks for that. Just my luck: Lattice have updated that document by deleting all SOIC packages, the ones I apparently need... A good reference otherwise, tho. Thanks again. |
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IC Package Drawing Database?
"DaveC" wrote in message ... I've been searching the net for a comprehensive list of drawings of IC packages, specifically, all things "SO" (ie, SO, SOP, TSOP, SSOP, TVSOP, etc.). What does come up are lists of packages, but no drawings. I need to have dimensions listed as well, similar to what is typically provided in datasheets. Thanks. Board houses usually adhere to the IPC standards, unless its oddball stuff. http://landpatterns.ipc.org/default.asp Cheers |
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IC Package Drawing Database?
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:29:52 -0700, DaveC wrote:
I've been searching the net for a comprehensive list of drawings of IC packages, specifically, all things "SO" (ie, SO, SOP, TSOP, SSOP, TVSOP, etc.). What does come up are lists of packages, but no drawings. You need the JEDEC standards. Bless their hearts, the standards are free upon registration. For example, the "Plastic Shrink Small Outline Package (SSOP) Family. R-PDSO/SSOP/SOIC" is covered by MO-137E, Mar 2010 over at http://www.jedec.org/standards-documents/docs/mo-137e Get thee hence to http://www.jedec.org/ -- Rich Webb Norfolk, VA |
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IC Package Drawing Database?
Nico Coesel wrote:
DaveC wrote: I've been searching the net for a comprehensive list of drawings of IC packages, specifically, all things "SO" (ie, SO, SOP, TSOP, SSOP, TVSOP, etc.). What does come up are lists of packages, but no drawings. I need to have dimensions listed as well, similar to what is typically provided in datasheets. Some semiconductor manufacturers also provide package drawings. IIRC NXP is one of them. Diodes Inc also has a fair set. |
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IC Package Drawing Database?
I have always had good luck finding specs at Digikey, never tried
mouser . http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...e=US&keywords= Den |
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IC Package Drawing Database?
DaveC wrote in message
... I've been searching the net for a comprehensive list of drawings of IC packages, specifically, all things "SO" (ie, SO, SOP, TSOP, SSOP, TVSOP, etc.). What does come up are lists of packages, but no drawings. I need to have dimensions listed as well, similar to what is typically provided in datasheets. Thanks. Don't know if its on wwwland but the paper versions of UK RS components catalogue have an extensive pictorial listing of types with equivalents, then look up dimensions once the package designation is known. -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on http://diverse.4mg.com/index.htm |
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IC Package Drawing Database?
DaveC Inscribed thus:
Thats your answer, grab the data sheets. ;-) That's what I resort to, although it really would be nice if there was a one stop shop of package drawings or dimensions. There are so many different packages now that I can't keep track of them all. For example this datasheet has 5 different package drawings that it calls "Small Outline Package", all with different dimensions: http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/sn74hct244.pdf Isn't the idea of a package "name" supposed be a single identity including dimensions (differing, of course, in length, to accommodate different pin counts)? From the same manufacturer, no less... Thanks, Dave Yes it can get very confusing. The "Jedec" designations are given at the bottom of each drawing. AFAIA that designation should identify a package uniquely. -- Best Regards: Baron. |
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IC Package Drawing Database?
I've been searching the net for a comprehensive list of drawings of IC
packages, specifically, all things "SO" (ie, SO, SOP, TSOP, SSOP, TVSOP, etc.). What does come up are lists of packages, but no drawings. I need to have dimensions listed as well, similar to what is typically provided in datasheets. IC packages are standardized by JEDEC http://www.jedec.org/standards-docum...outlines-jep95 Christian |
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IC Package Drawing Database?
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 08:06:00 +0200, Christian Keck
wrote: I've been searching the net for a comprehensive list of drawings of IC packages, specifically, all things "SO" (ie, SO, SOP, TSOP, SSOP, TVSOP, etc.). What does come up are lists of packages, but no drawings. I need to have dimensions listed as well, similar to what is typically provided in datasheets. IC packages are standardized by JEDEC http://www.jedec.org/standards-docum...outlines-jep95 That's the wonderful thing about standards, there're so many to choose from. JEDEC stretches that even further everyone gets their own "standards". |
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