RoHS date of introduction for Australia ?
Anyway 1/4 inch i/p socket too weak even for domestic use , breaking up in a
few years ( within RoHS regime), no obvious datecodes except main electros
seem to be 2000, otherwise maybe 2004 or 2005 IC dates. No-name flimsey junk
, the type with 2 insulated change over contacts. On trying to work out the
functions, apart from the tip contact/grounding setup there is a line to one
of the isolated switches that grounds at plug inserted and o/c when removed
, it goes DC connected to the base of a pnp transitor - function ?

N_Cook wrote in message
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RoHS date of introduction for Australia ?
Anyway 1/4 inch i/p socket too weak even for domestic use , breaking up in
a
few years ( within RoHS regime), no obvious datecodes except main electros
seem to be 2000, otherwise maybe 2004 or 2005 IC dates. No-name flimsey
junk
, the type with 2 insulated change over contacts. On trying to work out
the
functions, apart from the tip contact/grounding setup there is a line to
one
of the isolated switches that grounds at plug inserted and o/c when
removed
, it goes DC connected to the base of a pnp transitor - function ?



If it kills the gain for bang-less plug insertion then it would only work
for insertion , not removal, as that switch makes before tip makes/breaks
ground

"N_Cook" wrote in message
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N_Cook wrote in message
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RoHS date of introduction for Australia ?
Anyway 1/4 inch i/p socket too weak even for domestic use , breaking up
in
a
few years ( within RoHS regime), no obvious datecodes except main
electros
seem to be 2000, otherwise maybe 2004 or 2005 IC dates. No-name flimsey
junk
, the type with 2 insulated change over contacts. On trying to work out
the
functions, apart from the tip contact/grounding setup there is a line to
one
of the isolated switches that grounds at plug inserted and o/c when
removed
, it goes DC connected to the base of a pnp transitor - function ?



If it kills the gain for bang-less plug insertion then it would only work
for insertion , not removal, as that switch makes before tip makes/breaks
ground




Maybe it mutes the reverb?



Gareth.

Gareth Magennis wrote in message
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"N_Cook" wrote in message
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N_Cook wrote in message
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RoHS date of introduction for Australia ?
Anyway 1/4 inch i/p socket too weak even for domestic use , breaking up
in
a
few years ( within RoHS regime), no obvious datecodes except main
electros
seem to be 2000, otherwise maybe 2004 or 2005 IC dates. No-name flimsey
junk
, the type with 2 insulated change over contacts. On trying to work out
the
functions, apart from the tip contact/grounding setup there is a line
to
one
of the isolated switches that grounds at plug inserted and o/c when
removed
, it goes DC connected to the base of a pnp transitor - function ?



If it kills the gain for bang-less plug insertion then it would only
work
for insertion , not removal, as that switch makes before tip
makes/breaks
ground




Maybe it mutes the reverb?



Gareth.


Luckily the owner wanted a reliable input socket and was unconcerned about
the loss of the plug-in de-thump cct. To replace the domestic headphone
socket (has isolated switching) would have been a work up as 0 or 15V on
that control line so could not use an effects pedal type ring switch action.
And the ring switch for a normal stereo 1/4 inch jack is the wrong action
for here anyway, requiring an inverter somewhere or one of those awkward and
rare offset 1/4 inch switch actions. cct proper, holds off full gain for 0.5
seconds or so after plug insertion, all the while removed 30dB or more gain
drop via 15/-15V control into the first amp. Although no obvious PbF solder
problems the original input socket had thin+wide blade pins going into holes
of that wide diameter and loads of filler solder, asking for problems with
ordinary solder let alone new-fangled


--
Diverse Devices, Southampton, England
electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on
http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/

More as a reminder to myself, for the next time this problem appears. A work
around without having to cut into the existing cct to put in an inverter.
Use a small SPDT relay (+emf diode) with power adapted from whatever
convenient rail.
Permanent ground on the flexing ring contact in a 1/4 inch TRS socket and
the fixed ring- contact to the low side of the relay.


--
Diverse Devices, Southampton, England
electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on
http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/

N_Cook wrote in message
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More as a reminder to myself, for the next time this problem appears. A
work
around without having to cut into the existing cct to put in an inverter.
Use a small SPDT relay (+emf diode) with power adapted from whatever
convenient rail.
Permanent ground on the flexing ring contact in a 1/4 inch TRS socket and
the fixed ring- contact to the low side of the relay.


--
Diverse Devices, Southampton, England
electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on
http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/




The added delay, due to relay action, only adding to the desired effect of
delaying the removal of the gain suppression until after tip contact is made
( unless someone is very slow at plug-in)

--
Diverse Devices, Southampton, England
electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on
http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/

On Nov 11, 9:10*am, "N_Cook" wrote:
RoHS date of introduction for Australia ?
....snip...
the answer I got was,
"Not on the radar."

Robert Macy wrote in message
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On Nov 11, 9:10 am, "N_Cook" wrote:
RoHS date of introduction for Australia ?
....snip...
the answer I got was,
"Not on the radar."


RoHS printed on pcb overlay, and definitely grotty PbF-looking solder (but
not any actual observable or twizzleable bad joints). No RoHS stickers on
the outside, so presumably standard asian product internally, badged as Oz
externally