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The ability of most consumers to do more than make a mess is
very unlikely. Even someone like myself, having calibrated displays
for 30 years, can't do much to align a color management system
without a GOOD meter. I can get gray scale improved, but not really
accurate.


Does anyone make cheap-but-good instrumentation? I could justify a $500
investment.

(I can hear you laughing now.)


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The ability of most consumers to do more than make a mess is
very unlikely. Even someone like myself, having calibrated displays
for 30 years, can't do much to align a color management system
without a GOOD meter. I can get gray scale improved, but not really
accurate.


Does anyone make cheap-but-good instrumentation? I could justify a $500
investment.

(I can hear you laughing now.)




The cheapest I would even consider for most current displays is the i1 Pro.
None of the tristimulus colorimeters will be able to measure the narrow
spectrum of many modern displays, nor likely match the filters in wider
spectrum lighted systems. Even the i1 pro is marginal for the LED and Laser
sets, from what I understand. Better meters will be many thousands of
dollars.

The best pricing that you will find is packaged with the CalMAN software.
It is also one of the few software packages that is versatile enough to do
just about everything that you might need with most meters.

Leonard

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William Sommerwerck wrote:
The ability of most consumers to do more than make a mess is
very unlikely. Even someone like myself, having calibrated displays
for 30 years, can't do much to align a color management system
without a GOOD meter. I can get gray scale improved, but not really
accurate.


Does anyone make cheap-but-good instrumentation? I could justify a $500
investment.

(I can hear you laughing now.)


Not at all:
http://spyder.datacolor.com/product-mc-s2e.php

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The ability of most consumers to do more than make a mess is
very unlikely. Even someone like myself, having calibrated displays
for 30 years, can't do much to align a color management system
without a GOOD meter. I can get gray scale improved, but not really
accurate.


Does anyone make cheap-but-good instrumentation? I could justify
a $500 investment. (I can hear you laughing now.)


Not at all: http://spyder.datacolor.com/product-mc-s2e.php



And the Spyder will let me set up my Pioneer Kuro correctly? Because that's
what we were discussing.

I already have a huey, which did a decent job on my computer monitor.


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William Sommerwerck wrote:


The ability of most consumers to do more than make a mess is
very unlikely. Even someone like myself, having calibrated displays
for 30 years, can't do much to align a color management system
without a GOOD meter. I can get gray scale improved, but not really
accurate.


Does anyone make cheap-but-good instrumentation? I could justify
a $500 investment. (I can hear you laughing now.)


Not at all: http://spyder.datacolor.com/product-mc-s2e.php



And the Spyder will let me set up my Pioneer Kuro correctly? Because
that's
what we were discussing.

I already have a huey, which did a decent job on my computer monitor.



My experience with the spyder products and other tristimulus colorimeters
such as those from xrite and sencore (really just a version of the xrite
products) is that they are a poor choice for anything other than gray scale.
If you want to adjust a CMS properly, you need a spectrophotometer. The
minimum useful would be the i1 pro.

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William Sommerwerck wrote:


The ability of most consumers to do more than make a mess is
very unlikely. Even someone like myself, having calibrated displays
for 30 years, can't do much to align a color management system
without a GOOD meter. I can get gray scale improved, but not really
accurate.


Does anyone make cheap-but-good instrumentation? I could justify
a $500 investment. (I can hear you laughing now.)


Not at all: http://spyder.datacolor.com/product-mc-s2e.php



And the Spyder will let me set up my Pioneer Kuro correctly? Because that's
what we were discussing.

I already have a huey, which did a decent job on my computer monitor.


In that case, you might be able to rig up some way of using it on your
Pioneer.

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And the Spyder will let me set up my Pioneer Kuro correctly?
Because that's what we were discussing.
I already have a huey, which did a decent job on my computer monitor.


In that case, you might be able to rig up some way of using it on your
Pioneer.


Uh-huh.


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