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RCA projection TV Problem
My RCA rear projection TV has worked well after help from you TV
service people in January, 2005. It has a chassis number of PTK195AC and is model P60812BL At that time I found that the surface of the PC boards had some of the coolent and other debris which I cleaned and that fixed the problem. Coming home from vacation today, the main fuse from the AC input failed. Upon replacing it, the convergence is all messed up. I went into the service mode using the front panel as the service manual describes, I can't seem to get the grid pattern that I got back in 2005. Can anyone tell me 1. What typically goes wrong when the main fuse blows and the picture goes out of adjustment 2. How do you get into the built-in geometric alignment grid pattern? I am into the service mode, but it does not seem to have any pattern except the Pfor parameter) and V (for parameter value): on the screen. I would like to nurse this TV along for a while. It has given good service and I have no reason to replace it other than the present problem. I really don't want to get into it deeply. For example, I would prefer NOT to get a chipper checker or have to hook an oscilloscope to it. sci.electronics.repair |
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On Apr 21, 7:37*pm, eganders wrote:
My RCA rear projection TV has worked well after help from you TV service people in January, 2005. *It has a chassis number of PTK195AC and is model P60812BL At that time I found that the surface of the PC boards had some of the coolent and other debris which I cleaned and that fixed the problem. Coming home from vacation today, the main fuse from the AC input failed. *Upon replacing it, the convergence is all messed up. *I went into the service mode using the front panel as the service manual describes, I can't seem to get the grid pattern that I got back in 2005. *Can anyone tell me 1. *What typically goes wrong when the main fuse blows and the picture goes out of adjustment 2. *How do you get into the built-in geometric alignment grid pattern? I am into the service mode, but it does not seem to have any pattern except the Pfor parameter) and V (for parameter value): *on the screen. I would like to nurse this TV along for a while. *It has given good service and I have no reason to replace it other than the present problem. *I really don't want to get into it deeply. *For example, I would prefer NOT to get a chipper checker or have to hook an oscilloscope to it. sci.electronics.repair Here is a photo of what the convergence problem looks like http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ce100_1203.jpg |
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On Apr 21, 7:37*pm, eganders wrote:
My RCA rear projection TV has worked well after help from you TV service people in January, 2005. *It has a chassis number of PTK195AC and is model P60812BL At that time I found that the surface of the PC boards had some of the coolent and other debris which I cleaned and that fixed the problem. Coming home from vacation today, the main fuse from the AC input failed. *Upon replacing it, the convergence is all messed up. *I went into the service mode using the front panel as the service manual describes, I can't seem to get the grid pattern that I got back in 2005. *Can anyone tell me 1. *What typically goes wrong when the main fuse blows and the picture goes out of adjustment 2. *How do you get into the built-in geometric alignment grid pattern? I am into the service mode, but it does not seem to have any pattern except the Pfor parameter) and V (for parameter value): *on the screen. I would like to nurse this TV along for a while. *It has given good service and I have no reason to replace it other than the present problem. *I really don't want to get into it deeply. *For example, I would prefer NOT to get a chipper checker or have to hook an oscilloscope to it. sci.electronics.repair Here is a photo of the problem http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ce100_1203.jpg |
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time for some new convergence amps and resistors
"eganders" wrote in message ... On Apr 21, 7:37 pm, eganders wrote: My RCA rear projection TV has worked well after help from you TV service people in January, 2005. It has a chassis number of PTK195AC and is model P60812BL At that time I found that the surface of the PC boards had some of the coolent and other debris which I cleaned and that fixed the problem. Coming home from vacation today, the main fuse from the AC input failed. Upon replacing it, the convergence is all messed up. I went into the service mode using the front panel as the service manual describes, I can't seem to get the grid pattern that I got back in 2005. Can anyone tell me 1. What typically goes wrong when the main fuse blows and the picture goes out of adjustment 2. How do you get into the built-in geometric alignment grid pattern? I am into the service mode, but it does not seem to have any pattern except the Pfor parameter) and V (for parameter value): on the screen. I would like to nurse this TV along for a while. It has given good service and I have no reason to replace it other than the present problem. I really don't want to get into it deeply. For example, I would prefer NOT to get a chipper checker or have to hook an oscilloscope to it. sci.electronics.repair Here is a photo of the problem http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ce100_1203.jpg |
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Time to actually get out the service manual and find out what particular
voltage to the convergence circuit you have lost, and what caused that failure. Check the convergence power supply circuitry and the main supply to that area. Probable items within the convergence correction circuitry have been damaged either by coolant contaminate which you did not address previously, or just component failure. Any way, you need to determine if proper operational potentials are available to that circuit then determine your next course of action. "Lance Dyer" wrote in message news:wvCdnQZslLvl_ZDVnZ2dnUVZ_ternZ2d@sasktel... time for some new convergence amps and resistors "eganders" wrote in message ... On Apr 21, 7:37 pm, eganders wrote: My RCA rear projection TV has worked well after help from you TV service people in January, 2005. It has a chassis number of PTK195AC and is model P60812BL At that time I found that the surface of the PC boards had some of the coolent and other debris which I cleaned and that fixed the problem. Coming home from vacation today, the main fuse from the AC input failed. Upon replacing it, the convergence is all messed up. I went into the service mode using the front panel as the service manual describes, I can't seem to get the grid pattern that I got back in 2005. Can anyone tell me 1. What typically goes wrong when the main fuse blows and the picture goes out of adjustment 2. How do you get into the built-in geometric alignment grid pattern? I am into the service mode, but it does not seem to have any pattern except the Pfor parameter) and V (for parameter value): on the screen. I would like to nurse this TV along for a while. It has given good service and I have no reason to replace it other than the present problem. I really don't want to get into it deeply. For example, I would prefer NOT to get a chipper checker or have to hook an oscilloscope to it. sci.electronics.repair Here is a photo of the problem http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ce100_1203.jpg |
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On Apr 22, 6:46 am, "Art" wrote:
Time to actually get out the service manual and find out what particular voltage to the convergence circuit you have lost, and what caused that failure. Check the convergence power supply circuitry and the main supply to that area. Probable items within the convergence correction circuitry have been damaged either by coolant contaminate which you did not address previously, or just component failure. Any way, you need to determine if proper operational potentials are available to that circuit then determine your next course of action. "Lance Dyer" wrote in message news:wvCdnQZslLvl_ZDVnZ2dnUVZ_ternZ2d@sasktel... time for some new convergence amps and resistors "eganders" wrote in message ... On Apr 21, 7:37 pm, eganders wrote: My RCA rear projection TV has worked well after help from you TV service people in January, 2005. It has a chassis number of PTK195AC and is model P60812BL At that time I found that the surface of the PC boards had some of the coolent and other debris which I cleaned and that fixed the problem. Coming home from vacation today, the main fuse from the AC input failed. Upon replacing it, the convergence is all messed up. I went into the service mode using the front panel as the service manual describes, I can't seem to get the grid pattern that I got back in 2005. Can anyone tell me 1. What typically goes wrong when the main fuse blows and the picture goes out of adjustment 2. How do you get into the built-in geometric alignment grid pattern? I am into the service mode, but it does not seem to have any pattern except the Pfor parameter) and V (for parameter value): on the screen. I would like to nurse this TV along for a while. It has given good service and I have no reason to replace it other than the present problem. I really don't want to get into it deeply. For example, I would prefer NOT to get a chipper checker or have to hook an oscilloscope to it. sci.electronics.repair Here is a photo of the problem http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...onvergence100_... OK... I checked the voltages out of J19701 connector from the power supply to the convergence board. They are not to specification (at all). pin 1 should be -45, is -1.8 pin 2 should be -15, is -1.9 pin 3 gnd pin 4 should be +23, is +23.3 pin 5 should be +15, is 0 pin 6 should be -45, is 1.7 If the plug is pulled going to P19304, all the voltages go to 0 volts at J19701 on the power supply board. The service manual says to "disconnect power supply". I took that to mean pull J19701. I assume that the power board is bad. My question is.. Was the board blown by the load of something wrong on the convergence board, or just a bad component. I checked the input diode bridge and it seems to be OK. I would guess I should replace the power supply board. I wonder how much that is? I would hate to blow it after changing it out. What are the chances of that? |
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The last thing you should do is replace the power supply board. There's a
good chance something else in the TV may have caused a short or heavy load on the power supply, and the new one would be blown. Also it is very unlikely you could buy the board, or the price would be outrageous. It is possible your convergence amp circuit has failed, this should be tested/repaired first. Then the power supply should be troubleshot and repaired. Also, if you try to use adjustments in the service menu, or manual adjustment of any kind to converge the image, your results are likely to be very poor and unwatchable. Then when the TV is correctly repaired, it may take HOURS longer to realign all the settings you have changed. Those settings and/or adjustments are meant to fine-tune the picture when the circuit is working correctly. "eganders" wrote in message ... On Apr 22, 6:46 am, "Art" wrote: Time to actually get out the service manual and find out what particular voltage to the convergence circuit you have lost, and what caused that failure. Check the convergence power supply circuitry and the main supply to that area. Probable items within the convergence correction circuitry have been damaged either by coolant contaminate which you did not address previously, or just component failure. Any way, you need to determine if proper operational potentials are available to that circuit then determine your next course of action. "Lance Dyer" wrote in message news:wvCdnQZslLvl_ZDVnZ2dnUVZ_ternZ2d@sasktel... time for some new convergence amps and resistors "eganders" wrote in message ... On Apr 21, 7:37 pm, eganders wrote: My RCA rear projection TV has worked well after help from you TV service people in January, 2005. It has a chassis number of PTK195AC and is model P60812BL At that time I found that the surface of the PC boards had some of the coolent and other debris which I cleaned and that fixed the problem. Coming home from vacation today, the main fuse from the AC input failed. Upon replacing it, the convergence is all messed up. I went into the service mode using the front panel as the service manual describes, I can't seem to get the grid pattern that I got back in 2005. Can anyone tell me 1. What typically goes wrong when the main fuse blows and the picture goes out of adjustment 2. How do you get into the built-in geometric alignment grid pattern? I am into the service mode, but it does not seem to have any pattern except the Pfor parameter) and V (for parameter value): on the screen. I would like to nurse this TV along for a while. It has given good service and I have no reason to replace it other than the present problem. I really don't want to get into it deeply. For example, I would prefer NOT to get a chipper checker or have to hook an oscilloscope to it. sci.electronics.repair Here is a photo of the problem http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...onvergence100_... OK... I checked the voltages out of J19701 connector from the power supply to the convergence board. They are not to specification (at all). pin 1 should be -45, is -1.8 pin 2 should be -15, is -1.9 pin 3 gnd pin 4 should be +23, is +23.3 pin 5 should be +15, is 0 pin 6 should be -45, is 1.7 If the plug is pulled going to P19304, all the voltages go to 0 volts at J19701 on the power supply board. The service manual says to "disconnect power supply". I took that to mean pull J19701. I assume that the power board is bad. My question is.. Was the board blown by the load of something wrong on the convergence board, or just a bad component. I checked the input diode bridge and it seems to be OK. I would guess I should replace the power supply board. I wonder how much that is? I would hate to blow it after changing it out. What are the chances of that? |
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