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Fixed B&D toaster
Cheap late model Black & Decker toaster got more and more reluctant to stay down. I finally opened it up tonight and found the mechanism consists of an electromagnet controlled by an electronic timer. Bread crumbs had collected on top of the electromagnet and were creating a sufficient gap to prevent it from holding the mechanism down. Cleaned it out, put it back together and it's working well again. One out of the four screws holding the cover on was some weird security screw, but small needle nose pliars made quick work of that. |
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"James Sweet" wrote in message news:dRZLj.3602$6w3.3447@trnddc07... Cheap late model Black & Decker toaster got more and more reluctant to stay down. I finally opened it up tonight and found the mechanism consists of an electromagnet controlled by an electronic timer. Bread crumbs had collected on top of the electromagnet and were creating a sufficient gap to prevent it from holding the mechanism down. Cleaned it out, put it back together and it's working well again. One out of the four screws holding the cover on was some weird security screw, but small needle nose pliars made quick work of that. I've got one with a similar mech. Works brilliantly compared to the old purely mechanical system, except for one small detail. The designer cleverly omitted to put on an over-ride button ! So, if what you are toasting starts to scorch before the damn thing decides it's cooked, the only way to get it to stop and pop your toast up, is to either flick the wall switch off, or pull the plug !! Arfa |
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Fixed B&D toaster
"James Sweet" writes:
Cheap late model Black & Decker toaster got more and more reluctant to stay down. I finally opened it up tonight and found the mechanism consists of an electromagnet controlled by an electronic timer. Bread crumbs had collected on top of the electromagnet and were creating a sufficient gap to prevent it from holding the mechanism down. Cleaned it out, put it back together and it's working well again. One out of the four screws holding the cover on was some weird security screw, but small needle nose pliars made quick work of that. Don't you just love those easy ones? --- sam | Sci.Electronics.Repair FAQ: http://www.repairfaq.org/ Repair | Main Table of Contents: http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/ +Lasers | Sam's Laser FAQ: http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/lasersam.htm | Mirror Sites: http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/F_mirror.html Important: Anything sent to the email address in the message header above is ignored unless my full name AND either lasers or electronics is included in the subject line. Or, you can contact me via the Feedback Form in the FAQs. |
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"Arfa Daily" writes:
"James Sweet" wrote in message news:dRZLj.3602$6w3.3447@trnddc07... Cheap late model Black & Decker toaster got more and more reluctant to stay down. I finally opened it up tonight and found the mechanism consists of an electromagnet controlled by an electronic timer. Bread crumbs had collected on top of the electromagnet and were creating a sufficient gap to prevent it from holding the mechanism down. Cleaned it out, put it back together and it's working well again. One out of the four screws holding the cover on was some weird security screw, but small needle nose pliars made quick work of that. I've got one with a similar mech. Works brilliantly compared to the old purely mechanical system, except for one small detail. The designer cleverly omitted to put on an over-ride button ! So, if what you are toasting starts to scorch before the damn thing decides it's cooked, the only way to get it to stop and pop your toast up, is to either flick the wall switch off, or pull the plug !! No way to push the lever up? At least the Toastmaster has that! --- sam | Sci.Electronics.Repair FAQ: http://www.repairfaq.org/ Repair | Main Table of Contents: http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/ +Lasers | Sam's Laser FAQ: http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/lasersam.htm | Mirror Sites: http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/F_mirror.html Important: Anything sent to the email address in the message header above is ignored unless my full name AND either lasers or electronics is included in the subject line. Or, you can contact me via the Feedback Form in the FAQs. |
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Fixed B&D toaster
James Sweet wrote: Cheap late model Black & Decker toaster got more and more reluctant to stay down. I finally opened it up tonight and found the mechanism consists of an electromagnet controlled by an electronic timer. Bread crumbs had collected on top of the electromagnet and were creating a sufficient gap to prevent it from holding the mechanism down. Cleaned it out, put it back together and it's working well again. One out of the four screws holding the cover on was some weird security screw, but small needle nose pliars made quick work of that. Make sure you tell Phil. Toasters are his specialty, after all. ;-) -- aioe.org is home to cowards and terrorists Add this line to your news proxy nfilter.dat file * drop Path:*aioe.org!not-for-mail to drop all aioe.org traffic. http://improve-usenet.org/index.html Use any search engine other than Google till they stop polluting USENET with porn and junk commercial SPAM |
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Fixed B&D toaster
I want one of these Sanyo Panda toasters:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcaUYw7UCG0 Mmmm... Toasted pandas... |
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Fixed B&D toaster
"Andrew Rossmann" wrote in message .net... In article , says... I've got one with a similar mech. Works brilliantly compared to the old purely mechanical system, except for one small detail. The designer cleverly omitted to put on an over-ride button ! So, if what you are toasting starts to scorch before the damn thing decides it's cooked, the only way to get it to stop and pop your toast up, is to either flick the wall switch off, or pull the plug !! What brand and model? At the minimum, you should be able to manually pull up the handle! Would it even be legal to have a toaster that couldn't be shut down without unplugging it? It's actually a Philips, which I agree, you would have thought better of ... If I'm absolutely honest Andy, you *can* get the lever back up, but it takes considerable force to do so, such that it feels that you ought not to be doing that way for fear of breaking something. Also, because this is a mechanically 'slow' way of doing it, with the elements still energised, there is a good old flash visible through the slot, when it does release. In contrast, we have two 4-slice toasters at our cafe, which also use an electromagnetic locking system, but have a cancel button. Simple and much more effective than the Philips effort. Arfa |
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Fixed B&D toaster
On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:48:33 GMT, Arfa Daily wrote:
8............ In contrast, we have two 4-slice toasters at our cafe, which also use an electromagnetic locking system, but have a cancel button. Simple and much more effective than the Philips effort. However, in making the mass market model for the Great Unwashed, if you can eliminate a switch - the attendant wiring - and the resulting assembly complexity -- and you save 50 cents per model.... Now, then, if you sell 10,000,000 of them ..................... |
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Fixed B&D toaster
The original poster didn't say which B&D toaster he owned, but it was likely
a GE toaster oven. This (and similar) models have two ways of cancelling -- you either flip up the "push to toast" switch, or you open the door. |
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Fixed B&D toaster
"William Sommerwerck" wrote in message . .. The original poster didn't say which B&D toaster he owned, but it was likely a GE toaster oven. This (and similar) models have two ways of cancelling -- you either flip up the "push to toast" switch, or you open the door. No, it's not a toaster oven, just an ordinary 2 slice toaster. I didn't post the model number because I was too lazy to go find it, I'm sure many models work similarly. There's a cancel button, as well as the lever can be forced up without too much effort, but that's irrelevant to the original problem. |
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Fixed B&D toaster
In article EdaMj.2144$vz2.513@trndny05, James Sweet
wrote: "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message . .. The original poster didn't say which B&D toaster he owned, but it was likely a GE toaster oven. This (and similar) models have two ways of cancelling -- you either flip up the "push to toast" switch, or you open the door. Good for you James! Where I live people would just throw it out. |
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Fixed B&D toaster
"SCOTT" wrote in message news:120420081901541307%scottb9411removethis@comca st.net... In article EdaMj.2144$vz2.513@trndny05, James Sweet wrote: "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message . .. The original poster didn't say which B&D toaster he owned, but it was likely a GE toaster oven. This (and similar) models have two ways of cancelling -- you either flip up the "push to toast" switch, or you open the door. Good for you James! Where I live people would just throw it out. I just bought the stupid thing a couple months ago, it still looked like new so I opened it up. I usually take a crack at fixing anything, so long as it isn't total junk. |
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Fixed B&D toaster
"James Sweet" wrote in message news:dRZLj.3602$6w3.3447@trnddc07... Cheap late model Black & Decker toaster got more and more reluctant to stay down. I finally opened it up tonight and found the mechanism consists of an electromagnet controlled by an electronic timer. Bread crumbs had collected on top of the electromagnet and were creating a sufficient gap to prevent it from holding the mechanism down. Cleaned it out, put it back together and it's working well again. One out of the four screws holding the cover on was some weird security screw, but small needle nose pliars made quick work of that. I have the same problem with mine. I'll check it out. Thanks, db |
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Fixed B&D toaster
I have the same problem with mine. I'll check it out. Thanks, db The handle is a real pain in the butt to get back on, keep at it and you'll figure it out. |
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