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In the same manner that, often for audio power output situations,
cheap 100V, 15amp TIP3055/TIP2955 with maybe a bit of change of mounting is
a perfectly servicable replacement for rare/expensive 2SA... / 2SC...
bipolar pairs.
Is there anything similarly for the same/similar wide plastic package
TO3P,TOP3,SOT199,TOP66 100Volt , 15amp power MOSFET n and p type pairings
for audio use ?

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Default Generic (cheap) Power MOSFETs ?

The popular N/P fets in this size in ( TO247) package are IRFP530/IRFP9530
and IRFP540/IRFP9540 in the ( TO220) package are IRF520/IRF9520 and
IRF530/IRF9530 and IRF540/IRF9540.
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In the same manner that, often for audio power output situations,
cheap 100V, 15amp TIP3055/TIP2955 with maybe a bit of change of mounting
is
a perfectly servicable replacement for rare/expensive 2SA... / 2SC...
bipolar pairs.
Is there anything similarly for the same/similar wide plastic package
TO3P,TOP3,SOT199,TOP66 100Volt , 15amp power MOSFET n and p type
pairings
for audio use ?

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electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on
http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/




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Sorry,
Correction
below.
The popular N/P fets in this size in ( TO247) package are IRFP130/IRFP9130
and IRFP140/IRFP9140 in the ( TO220) package are IRF520/IRF9520 and
IRF530/IRF9530 and IRF540/IRF9540.
Ray



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In the same manner that, often for audio power output situations,
cheap 100V, 15amp TIP3055/TIP2955 with maybe a bit of change of mounting
is
a perfectly servicable replacement for rare/expensive 2SA... / 2SC...
bipolar pairs.
Is there anything similarly for the same/similar wide plastic package
TO3P,TOP3,SOT199,TOP66 100Volt , 15amp power MOSFET n and p type
pairings
for audio use ?

--
Diverse Devices, Southampton, England
electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on
http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/






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Sorry,
Correction
below.
The popular N/P fets in this size in ( TO247) package are

IRFP130/IRFP9130
and IRFP140/IRFP9140 in the ( TO220) package are IRF520/IRF9520 and
IRF530/IRF9530 and IRF540/IRF9540.
Ray



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...
In the same manner that, often for audio power output situations,
cheap 100V, 15amp TIP3055/TIP2955 with maybe a bit of change of

mounting
is
a perfectly servicable replacement for rare/expensive 2SA... / 2SC...
bipolar pairs.
Is there anything similarly for the same/similar wide plastic package
TO3P,TOP3,SOT199,TOP66 100Volt , 15amp power MOSFET n and p type
pairings
for audio use ?

--
Diverse Devices, Southampton, England
electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on
http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/







Thanks for the IRFP sugestion, its always the p-ch ones that put the prices
up.
I think I'll get a stock of IRFP240
and IRFP9240, 200V, 12 amp ,TO247 ones which seem to be the best bang per
buck in the UK.

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Ray King wrote in message
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Sorry,
Correction
below.
The popular N/P fets in this size in ( TO247) package are

IRFP130/IRFP9130
and IRFP140/IRFP9140 in the ( TO220) package are IRF520/IRF9520 and
IRF530/IRF9530 and IRF540/IRF9540.
Ray



"N Cook" wrote in message
...
In the same manner that, often for audio power output situations,
cheap 100V, 15amp TIP3055/TIP2955 with maybe a bit of change of

mounting
is
a perfectly servicable replacement for rare/expensive 2SA... / 2SC...
bipolar pairs.
Is there anything similarly for the same/similar wide plastic package
TO3P,TOP3,SOT199,TOP66 100Volt , 15amp power MOSFET n and p type
pairings
for audio use ?

--
Diverse Devices, Southampton, England
electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on
http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/







In a similar vein. If an amp needs a rare or expensive or unattainable
output hybrid block STK..., TA..., Si... I tend these days using a
relatively cheap for its performance, 100W TDA7294 instead. Small enough to
place upside down or 2 together for 2 channels, with extra clamping and with
a strip of matrix board on the new block pins then insulated wires crossing
over one another to the original pad positions.
It is usually possible to work out the DC rails, i/ps,o/p, comp, mute lines
even if a pinout for the original is not available.


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electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on
http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/




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N Cook wrote:

In a similar vein. If an amp needs a rare or expensive or unattainable
output hybrid block STK..., TA..., Si... I tend these days using a
relatively cheap for its performance, 100W TDA7294 instead. Small enough to
place upside down or 2 together for 2 channels, with extra clamping and with
a strip of matrix board on the new block pins then insulated wires crossing
over one another to the original pad positions.
It is usually possible to work out the DC rails, i/ps,o/p, comp, mute lines
even if a pinout for the original is not available.


I do miss those Maplin 150 watt mosfet modules, great for resurrecting
old stuff like H-H PA amps and the like. There`s nothing quite like them
now, I must have built over a hundred, and most of them I bet are still
working.

Ron(UK)

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Ron(UK) wrote in message
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N Cook wrote:

In a similar vein. If an amp needs a rare or expensive or unattainable
output hybrid block STK..., TA..., Si... I tend these days using a
relatively cheap for its performance, 100W TDA7294 instead. Small enough

to
place upside down or 2 together for 2 channels, with extra clamping and

with
a strip of matrix board on the new block pins then insulated wires

crossing
over one another to the original pad positions.
It is usually possible to work out the DC rails, i/ps,o/p, comp, mute

lines
even if a pinout for the original is not available.


I do miss those Maplin 150 watt mosfet modules, great for resurrecting
old stuff like H-H PA amps and the like. There`s nothing quite like them
now, I must have built over a hundred, and most of them I bet are still
working.

Ron(UK)

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Hire Sales Maintenance
www.lunevalleyaudio.com


Assuming you put in spring clamps, or such, then cutting off the protruding
tab of the TDA7294 leaves a block only 20x10x4 mm , so 2 easily go in the
space of an STK... etc and those are usually quite a bit less than 2x 100W.
I wonder if they're bridgable, I'll have to dig out the pdf.

--
Diverse Devices, Southampton, England
electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on
http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/


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N Cook wrote:

In a similar vein. If an amp needs a rare or expensive or unattainable
output hybrid block STK..., TA..., Si... I tend these days using a
relatively cheap for its performance, 100W TDA7294 instead. Small enough
to
place upside down or 2 together for 2 channels, with extra clamping and
with
a strip of matrix board on the new block pins then insulated wires
crossing
over one another to the original pad positions.
It is usually possible to work out the DC rails, i/ps,o/p, comp, mute
lines
even if a pinout for the original is not available.


I do miss those Maplin 150 watt mosfet modules, great for resurrecting old
stuff like H-H PA amps and the like. There`s nothing quite like them now,
I must have built over a hundred, and most of them I bet are still
working.

Ron(UK)


Ron

I always used to favour the ILP modules for the same purpose. Remember them
? They always used to advertise in Practically Witless magazine. For many
years, they disappeared, then I tried searching them on the 'net a few years
back, and I found a piece by the guy that was originally involved with them,
and it seemed that he was going back into production. I just put it into
Google again, and it came straight back with the top hit, so it seems that
they are in production again now. As I recall, these were very 'plug n play'
also with only + / - power, gnd, in and out connections, and were just about
bomb proof. Might be worth getting one in just to play with ... ??


http://www.ilpelectronics.com/index.asp

Arfa


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"Ron(UK)" wrote in message
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N Cook wrote:

In a similar vein. If an amp needs a rare or expensive or unattainable
output hybrid block STK..., TA..., Si... I tend these days using a
relatively cheap for its performance, 100W TDA7294 instead. Small

enough
to
place upside down or 2 together for 2 channels, with extra clamping and
with
a strip of matrix board on the new block pins then insulated wires
crossing
over one another to the original pad positions.
It is usually possible to work out the DC rails, i/ps,o/p, comp, mute
lines
even if a pinout for the original is not available.


I do miss those Maplin 150 watt mosfet modules, great for resurrecting

old
stuff like H-H PA amps and the like. There`s nothing quite like them

now,
I must have built over a hundred, and most of them I bet are still
working.

Ron(UK)


Ron

I always used to favour the ILP modules for the same purpose. Remember

them
? They always used to advertise in Practically Witless magazine. For many
years, they disappeared, then I tried searching them on the 'net a few

years
back, and I found a piece by the guy that was originally involved with

them,
and it seemed that he was going back into production. I just put it into
Google again, and it came straight back with the top hit, so it seems that
they are in production again now. As I recall, these were very 'plug n

play'
also with only + / - power, gnd, in and out connections, and were just

about
bomb proof. Might be worth getting one in just to play with ... ??


http://www.ilpelectronics.com/index.asp

Arfa



I seem top remember those were dV/dt suceptable to failure (fridge-switch
syndrome) if you did not limit the i/p dv/dt


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Ron(UK) wrote in message
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N Cook wrote:

In a similar vein. If an amp needs a rare or expensive or unattainable
output hybrid block STK..., TA..., Si... I tend these days using a
relatively cheap for its performance, 100W TDA7294 instead. Small

enough
to
place upside down or 2 together for 2 channels, with extra clamping

and
with
a strip of matrix board on the new block pins then insulated wires

crossing
over one another to the original pad positions.
It is usually possible to work out the DC rails, i/ps,o/p, comp, mute

lines
even if a pinout for the original is not available.


I do miss those Maplin 150 watt mosfet modules, great for resurrecting
old stuff like H-H PA amps and the like. There`s nothing quite like them
now, I must have built over a hundred, and most of them I bet are still
working.

Ron(UK)

--
Lune Valley Audio
Public Address Systems
Hire Sales Maintenance
www.lunevalleyaudio.com


Assuming you put in spring clamps, or such, then cutting off the

protruding
tab of the TDA7294 leaves a block only 20x10x4 mm , so 2 easily go in the
space of an STK... etc and those are usually quite a bit less than 2x

100W.
I wonder if they're bridgable, I'll have to dig out the pdf.

--
Diverse Devices, Southampton, England
electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on
http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/



The pdf shows 2 bridged example but 8 ohm minimum but I've seen 4 of these
bridged in a high power mixer-amp so presumably 4 ohm in that case.
I meant SVi not Si, the Technics things

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Ron(UK) wrote in message
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N Cook wrote:

In a similar vein. If an amp needs a rare or expensive or unattainable
output hybrid block STK..., TA..., Si... I tend these days using a
relatively cheap for its performance, 100W TDA7294 instead. Small enough

to
place upside down or 2 together for 2 channels, with extra clamping and

with
a strip of matrix board on the new block pins then insulated wires

crossing
over one another to the original pad positions.
It is usually possible to work out the DC rails, i/ps,o/p, comp, mute

lines
even if a pinout for the original is not available.

I do miss those Maplin 150 watt mosfet modules, great for resurrecting
old stuff like H-H PA amps and the like. There`s nothing quite like them
now, I must have built over a hundred, and most of them I bet are still
working.

Ron(UK)

--
Lune Valley Audio
Public Address Systems
Hire Sales Maintenance
www.lunevalleyaudio.com


Assuming you put in spring clamps, or such, then cutting off the protruding
tab of the TDA7294 leaves a block only 20x10x4 mm , so 2 easily go in the
space of an STK... etc and those are usually quite a bit less than 2x 100W.
I wonder if they're bridgable, I'll have to dig out the pdf.


Yeah, quite a lot of guitar and bass amps use a pair in bridge mode,
Carslbro BassBomber springs to mind, tho I dont have a ct diag for one
offhand.

They do need sufficient cooling btw

Ron(UK)
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I do miss those Maplin 150 watt mosfet modules, great for resurrecting old
stuff like H-H PA amps and the like. There`s nothing quite like them now,
I must have built over a hundred, and most of them I bet are still
working.

Ron(UK)


Ron

I always used to favour the ILP modules for the same purpose. Remember them
? They always used to advertise in Practically Witless magazine. For many
years, they disappeared, then I tried searching them on the 'net a few years
back, and I found a piece by the guy that was originally involved with them,
and it seemed that he was going back into production. I just put it into
Google again, and it came straight back with the top hit, so it seems that
they are in production again now. As I recall, these were very 'plug n play'
also with only + / - power, gnd, in and out connections, and were just about
bomb proof. Might be worth getting one in just to play with ... ??


http://www.ilpelectronics.com/index.asp


Oh cheers, I`ll take a look at those, I built a 200w power amp using
them way way back.


Ron(UK)
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