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tool for stripping wires without cutting them?
I plan to install a remote starter in my car. I'd like to buy a tool
to strip the wires, if its not too expensive. I have a set of plier- like ones, where you insert the wire into the correct slot, squeeze the handles, then pull the wire through, shedding the insulation. But that is only for stripping the ends of wires. I'd like to be able to strip wires 'inline', without cutting them. Is that what an automatic stripper does? Like http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2062786 or http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=42101 Or is there another tool? Thanks. |
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Some helpful fellow wrote:
http://www.wrcase.com/knives/pocket_knives/ Thats what I used when I put in my last remote starter. It was a lot of slow, careful work. I was hoping there was a tool that could do this quickly and without risk of cutting the wire. |
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wrote in message oups.com... I plan to install a remote starter in my car. I'd like to buy a tool to strip the wires, if its not too expensive. I have a set of plier- like ones, where you insert the wire into the correct slot, squeeze the handles, then pull the wire through, shedding the insulation. But that is only for stripping the ends of wires. I'd like to be able to strip wires 'inline', without cutting them. Is that what an automatic stripper does? Like You can buy those in dollar stores. Or is there another tool? Thanks. Most of us use a pocket knife - carefully, so as to not nick the wire. |
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tool for stripping wires without cutting them?
oh, you want to strip the wire without taking/cutting the conecctors of ,
?? buy a cigarette lighter, soften/melt the plastic and QUICKLY pul the insulastion off with ya fingers. mark k wrote in message oups.com... I plan to install a remote starter in my car. I'd like to buy a tool to strip the wires, if its not too expensive. I have a set of plier- like ones, where you insert the wire into the correct slot, squeeze the handles, then pull the wire through, shedding the insulation. But that is only for stripping the ends of wires. I'd like to be able to strip wires 'inline', without cutting them. Is that what an automatic stripper does? Like http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2062786 or http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=42101 Or is there another tool? Thanks. |
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oups.com... I plan to install a remote starter in my car. I'd like to buy a tool to strip the wires, if its not too expensive. I have a set of plier- like ones, where you insert the wire into the correct slot, squeeze the handles, then pull the wire through, shedding the insulation. But that is only for stripping the ends of wires. I'd like to be able to strip wires 'inline', without cutting them. Is that what an automatic stripper does? Like http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2062786 or http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=42101 Or is there another tool? Thanks. I use linemans plyers / dikes, but lots of people can't strip wire with them.. They are my favorite tool for stripping wire. http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-KLEIN-SO...QQcmdZViewItem |
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wrote: I plan to install a remote starter in my car. I'd like to buy a tool to strip the wires, if its not too expensive. I have a set of plier- like ones, where you insert the wire into the correct slot, squeeze the handles, then pull the wire through, shedding the insulation. But that is only for stripping the ends of wires. I'd like to be able to strip wires 'inline', without cutting them. Is that what an automatic stripper does? Like http://www.radioshack.com/product/index. or http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=42101 Or is there another tool? Thanks. Of these two the RS one is ideal for this purpose - provided you use the correct size for the cable, and the sizes provided by the jaws cover the cables in use. I've got just about every cable stripper known to man and although the automatic types sound like a good idea they simply don't match up to this type for stripping with no chance of conductor damage - provided as I say you use the correct 'notch' out of the four provided and make sure it's aligned on the cable. If you're sloppy about this it makes a good cable cutter. ;-) The snag is it needs more space to work than some other types. This type is also of use as again won't damage the conductor but has to be manually adjusted. Couldn't find it on the RS site, but most electricians use them. http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/VA237.html -- *Why is a boxing ring square? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Anthony Fremont" wrote in message ... wrote: I plan to install a remote starter in my car. I'd like to buy a tool to strip the wires, if its not too expensive. I have a set of plier- like ones, where you insert the wire into the correct slot, squeeze the handles, then pull the wire through, shedding the insulation. But that is only for stripping the ends of wires. I'd like to be able to strip wires 'inline', without cutting them. Is that what an automatic stripper does? Like http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2062786 or http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=42101 Or is there another tool? Thanks. Those strippers are for stripping the end only. Their specialty is that they "adjust" to the size of the wire automatically. This means they only remove 10% of the strands along with the insulation. ;-) Seriously, you should use a better connector instead. You don't want to strip an inch of insulation off, you just want to displace enough insulation to make a connection. Something like these: http://www3.3m.com/catalog/us/en001/...er/output_html Try to find some that have a moisture resistant grease inside. This will not only keep water out, but the air too. That's exactly the item that I was going to suggest as well. They are made for the job of in-line splicing, and do it very well. Arfa |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article .com, wrote: I plan to install a remote starter in my car. I'd like to buy a tool to strip the wires, if its not too expensive. I have a set of plier- like ones, where you insert the wire into the correct slot, squeeze the handles, then pull the wire through, shedding the insulation. But that is only for stripping the ends of wires. I'd like to be able to strip wires 'inline', without cutting them. Is that what an automatic stripper does? Like http://www.radioshack.com/product/index. or http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=42101 Or is there another tool? Thanks. I use a T-stripper, I love it. http://www.twacomm.com/catalog/model_45-120CS.htm |
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tool for stripping wires without cutting them?
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Arfa Daily wrote: That's exactly the item that I was going to suggest as well. They are made for the job of in-line splicing, and do it very well. And look like the bodge they are. ;-) You'll not find them used on a maker's harness. -- *I don't have a solution, but I admire your problem. * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Arfa Daily wrote: That's exactly the item that I was going to suggest as well. They are made for the job of in-line splicing, and do it very well. And look like the bodge they are. ;-) You'll not find them used on a maker's harness. Do you think that stripping an inch of insulation in the middle of a run is a better way to go? If so, you'll not be doing any wiring on my car. ;-) Short of soldering, I can't think of anything more reliable than IDC type crimp-ons. They're used all over the place in critcal applications. e.g. computer data cables, network and telephone industry etc. Auto makers use plenty of crimp-on pins too. :-) |
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"Arfa Daily" wrote in message ... "Anthony Fremont" wrote in message ... wrote: I plan to install a remote starter in my car. I'd like to buy a tool to strip the wires, if its not too expensive. I have a set of plier- like ones, where you insert the wire into the correct slot, squeeze the handles, then pull the wire through, shedding the insulation. But that is only for stripping the ends of wires. I'd like to be able to strip wires 'inline', without cutting them. Is that what an automatic stripper does? Like http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2062786 or http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=42101 Or is there another tool? Thanks. Those strippers are for stripping the end only. Their specialty is that they "adjust" to the size of the wire automatically. This means they only remove 10% of the strands along with the insulation. ;-) Seriously, you should use a better connector instead. You don't want to strip an inch of insulation off, you just want to displace enough insulation to make a connection. Something like these: http://www3.3m.com/catalog/us/en001/...er/output_html Try to find some that have a moisture resistant grease inside. This will not only keep water out, but the air too. That's exactly the item that I was going to suggest as well. They are made for the job of in-line splicing, and do it very well. Arfa 90% of professional alarm installers use the T-Tap 3M connectors. They have a great track record and work well, and are used because of the speed in which they can be put in, as well as the fact you don't want to drop a hot soldering iron in a brand new corvette seat :-). If you use some 3M super 33 tape and wrap the harness for the alarm, and wrap your connections properly, when you finish it looks enough like the car harness that a thief is hard pressed to find the alarm wiring :-) Jammy (Got stuck doing installs as well as repairs when I started in electronics) |
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Anthony Fremont wrote: Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Arfa Daily wrote: That's exactly the item that I was going to suggest as well. They are made for the job of in-line splicing, and do it very well. And look like the bodge they are. ;-) You'll not find them used on a maker's harness. Do you think that stripping an inch of insulation in the middle of a run is a better way to go? If so, you'll not be doing any wiring on my car. ;-) Short of soldering, I can't think of anything more reliable than IDC type crimp-ons. They're used all over the place in critcal applications. e.g. computer data cables, network and telephone industry etc. Auto makers use plenty of crimp-on pins too. :-) But they're not a crimp. Proper crimped connections are fine. -- *I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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ampdoc wrote: That's exactly the item that I was going to suggest as well. They are made for the job of in-line splicing, and do it very well. 90% of professional alarm installers use the T-Tap 3M connectors. And 90% of aftermarket alarms are a problem within a few years. ;-) -- *I'm not being rude. You're just insignificant Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Michael Kennedy wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... I plan to install a remote starter in my car. I'd like to buy a tool to strip the wires, if its not too expensive. I have a set of plier- like ones, where you insert the wire into the correct slot, squeeze the handles, then pull the wire through, shedding the insulation. But that is only for stripping the ends of wires. I'd like to be able to strip wires 'inline', without cutting them. Is that what an automatic stripper does? Like http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2062786 or http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=42101 Or is there another tool? Thanks. I use linemans plyers / dikes, but lots of people can't strip wire with them.. They are my favorite tool for stripping wire. http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-KLEIN-SO...QQcmdZViewItem There you go, cheapest cutters and the most handy.. I have auto strippers and never use them. I can strip must faster with those simple ones. http://www.amazon.com/Parts-Express-...129132&sr=1-16 -- "I'm never wrong, once i thought i was, but was mistaken" Real Programmers Do things like this. http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5 |
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On 27 Mar 2007 20:35:58 -0700, put finger to
keyboard and composed: I plan to install a remote starter in my car. I'd like to buy a tool to strip the wires, if its not too expensive. I have a set of plier- like ones, where you insert the wire into the correct slot, squeeze the handles, then pull the wire through, shedding the insulation. But that is only for stripping the ends of wires. I'd like to be able to strip wires 'inline', without cutting them. Is that what an automatic stripper does? Like http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2062786 or http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=42101 Or is there another tool? Thanks. I use several mentioned in this thread, including yours. I also use a "T-Rex" for ribbon cable and such like: http://www.sicom.co.nz//site/images/42904.jpg - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 08:23:44 +1000, Franc Zabkar
put finger to keyboard and composed: On 27 Mar 2007 20:35:58 -0700, put finger to keyboard and composed: I plan to install a remote starter in my car. I'd like to buy a tool to strip the wires, if its not too expensive. I have a set of plier- like ones, where you insert the wire into the correct slot, squeeze the handles, then pull the wire through, shedding the insulation. But that is only for stripping the ends of wires. I'd like to be able to strip wires 'inline', without cutting them. Is that what an automatic stripper does? Like http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2062786 or http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=42101 Or is there another tool? Thanks. I use several mentioned in this thread, including yours. I also use a "T-Rex" for ribbon cable and such like: http://www.sicom.co.nz//site/images/42904.jpg Sorry, I just realised that you wanted to strip *without* cutting. - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
And 90% of aftermarket alarms are a problem within a few years. ;-) 90% of aftermarket alarms are apparently installed with the noise- and vibration-detectors turned all the way up, presumably so the person buying them will feel like they got something for their money. The result is continual false alarms. I don't know why anyone buys an alarm system anymore. After years of getting a 3 am alarm serenade I have to say my first reaction upon hearing a car alarm is *not* that someone must be stealing the car. Someone needs to invent an EMP gun that can take these little noisemakers out at fifty paces. |
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On 27 Mar 2007 20:35:58 -0700, wrote:
I plan to install a remote starter in my car. I'd like to buy a tool to strip the wires, if its not too expensive. I have a set of plier- like ones, where you insert the wire into the correct slot, squeeze the handles, then pull the wire through, shedding the insulation. But that is only for stripping the ends of wires. I'd like to be able to strip wires 'inline', without cutting them. Is that what an automatic stripper does? Like http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2062786 or http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=42101 Or is there another tool? Thanks. There are a number of tools for stripping cable sheath longtitudinally eg. Knipex http://www.justoffbase.co.uk/Cable-S...&category=1051 but these are only for cables of around 6mm diam minimal. In order to strip individual conductor sheathing (insulation) for smaller gauges this is a rather specialised function for such purposes as stripping thermocouple wires. This company sells this type of stripping tool but they would be very expensive and probably only viable for mass production. You also need a different stripper die for each wire gauge. http://www.ariindustries.com/accesso...ping_tool.php3 |
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I ended up getting this one from Radio Shack:
http://rsk.imageg.net/graphics/produ...160702w345.jpg For $12.99. It was a piece of junk, it felt like it was going to fall apart. I didn't even test it out, I just took it back. Then I bought a different brand from Menards (home improvement store), where you don't have to choose what size wire you are stripping, for $15 And one of these (the kind where you must select the right hole for your size of wire) for $25: http://www.homedepot.com/cmc_upload/...50452620_4.jpg I tried them both. The $25 set (the only one made in the USA) works great. I'll be keeping that one. It does strip wire in the middle, but not perfectly. But it will be much easier than manually trying to cut without damaging any strands. I'll still have to make a laterall cut manually. Thanks for all the input. |
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wrote: I ended up getting this one from Radio Shack: http://rsk.imageg.net/graphics/produ...160702w345.jpg For $12.99. It was a piece of junk, it felt like it was going to fall apart. I didn't even test it out, I just took it back. I have one of similar design - not of course from Radio Shack - and it cost a deal more than the one they show. It's the best wire stripper I have and I have many. It's also had a lot of use and still works properly on the original jaws which are available as spares. I can't of course comment on the RS one, but not even trying something after buying seems strange. -- *If they arrest the Energizer Bunny, would they charge it with battery? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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I can't of course comment on the RS one, but not even trying something after buying seems strange. I did try it, by working the tool in my hand many times, that was enough. The operation of the left and right jaws weren't right, sometimes when you let the tool close the blades wouldn't be open so you couldn't put the wires in. The handles didn't move smoothly, they wanted to wobble all over instead of moving in an arc. Sometimes it would get stuck open. As soon as I opened the package of the US made one, I could tell just by the feel of it that it was a much much better tool. |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article . com, wrote: I ended up getting this one from Radio Shack: http://rsk.imageg.net/graphics/produ...160702w345.jpg For $12.99. It was a piece of junk, it felt like it was going to fall apart. I didn't even test it out, I just took it back. I have one of similar design - not of course from Radio Shack - and it cost a deal more than the one they show. It's the best wire stripper I have and I have many. It's also had a lot of use and still works properly on the original jaws which are available as spares. When made correctly that type of tool can work very well. I have one made specifically for RG-59U coax that I use when installing security cameras. It's very quick and reliable. But it's a fairly heavy-duty, well-made item, which means it probably didn't come from Radio Shack. |
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