Have a failed Reliance "Jr. Pak-1000" 0.3KW DC motor drive. Note that this is
not Reliance USA, as in Rockwell, etc., but Reliance, Japan, which used to be
part of Reliance Int'l, but no more.

Symptom is that dc motor is not running smoothly at low speed setting (motor
"jerks"), and doesn't reach top speed. Swapping motors and controllers
indicates this controller is at fault.

It consists of 3 basic components:
- a PBF206 thyristor "H-bridge"
- a 25cm^^3 cube-shaped module
These two modules are in series with each other and with the load and the
230vac mains.

Controlling these modules is a PCB which accepts a small (0-8vdc) speed
control voltage and a speed-proportional feedback tachometer voltage
(0-100vdc), and outputs control signals (via small conductors/molex plug) to
both modules.

The "mystery cube" is marked with simply "MC-0005G". No source logo or icon.
I can't find any reference to such a part. Any help would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks,
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On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:58:02 -0700, DaveC wrote:

Have a failed Reliance "Jr. Pak-1000" 0.3KW DC motor drive. Note that this is
not Reliance USA, as in Rockwell, etc., but Reliance, Japan, which used to be
part of Reliance Int'l, but no more.

Symptom is that dc motor is not running smoothly at low speed setting (motor
"jerks"), and doesn't reach top speed. Swapping motors and controllers
indicates this controller is at fault.

It consists of 3 basic components:
- a PBF206 thyristor "H-bridge"
- a 25cm^^3 cube-shaped module
These two modules are in series with each other and with the load and the
230vac mains.

Controlling these modules is a PCB which accepts a small (0-8vdc) speed
control voltage and a speed-proportional feedback tachometer voltage
(0-100vdc), and outputs control signals (via small conductors/molex plug) to
both modules.

The "mystery cube" is marked with simply "MC-0005G". No source logo or icon.
I can't find any reference to such a part. Any help would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks,
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You need to look at the field regulator, from Zero speed to base
speed field should be max.

After reaching base speed field voltage should start falling off.

The tach signal of course should increase as speed increases, if there
was a tach problem the motor would run ragged all the way to full
speed.

I recently helped someone with an identical problem and it turned on
the field regulator was allowing the voltage to change causing rough
operation.

Regards
Daveb

Thus spake DaveB:

You need to look at the field regulator, from Zero speed to base
speed field should be max.

Field is fixed at ~100vdc. Output from common rect. bridge feeds fields of
all 6 identical motors.

After reaching base speed field voltage should start falling off.

Not in this design; fixed field voltage.

The tach signal of course should increase as speed increases, if there
was a tach problem the motor would run ragged all the way to full
speed.

Tach signal was, at first, suspicious; it looks sawtooth, while all other
motors put out steady speed-relative dc voltage. I marked this up to the
jerking operation of the motor, resulting in a sawtooth tach voltage.

Swapped motors and controllers, so this rules out:
- motor
- tachometer/generator (bolted onto motor)
- wiring

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DaveC wrote:

Have a failed Reliance "Jr. Pak-1000" 0.3KW DC motor drive. Note that this is
not Reliance USA, as in Rockwell, etc., but Reliance, Japan, which used to be
part of Reliance Int'l, but no more.

Symptom is that dc motor is not running smoothly at low speed setting (motor
"jerks"), and doesn't reach top speed. Swapping motors and controllers
indicates this controller is at fault.

It consists of 3 basic components:
- a PBF206 thyristor "H-bridge"
- a 25cm^^3 cube-shaped module
These two modules are in series with each other and with the load and the
230vac mains.

Controlling these modules is a PCB which accepts a small (0-8vdc) speed
control voltage and a speed-proportional feedback tachometer voltage
(0-100vdc), and outputs control signals (via small conductors/molex plug) to
both modules.

The "mystery cube" is marked with simply "MC-0005G". No source logo or icon.
I can't find any reference to such a part. Any help would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks,
check for dried out electrolytic capacitors on the firing board.


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