I am working on an older HP Pavilion Model 6830.
The first complaint is that it would not turn on. I pressed the on switch
several times and it fired up.
Now it will not shut down. Even pulling out the line cord doesn't reset it.
Plug the cord back in and it is still on. The p/s is an ATX-105.

There is nothing else attached. No keyboard, no monitor. I am just going by
the sound of the fan and front panel LED.

The power on switch goes to the mobo through a connector. Unplugging this
connector and testing the switch it tests good for continuity. It is a
momentary contact switch which tells me that there is latch someplace. Is
this latch somewhere on the mobo or is it in the p/s itself?

Advice please.

Charlie

Charlie Bress wrote:
I am working on an older HP Pavilion Model 6830.
The first complaint is that it would not turn on. I pressed the on switch
several times and it fired up.
Now it will not shut down. Even pulling out the line cord doesn't reset it.
Plug the cord back in and it is still on. The p/s is an ATX-105.

There is nothing else attached. No keyboard, no monitor. I am just going by
the sound of the fan and front panel LED.

The power on switch goes to the mobo through a connector. Unplugging this
connector and testing the switch it tests good for continuity. It is a
momentary contact switch which tells me that there is latch someplace. Is
this latch somewhere on the mobo or is it in the p/s itself?

Hold down the switch for five seconds or so....

jak

Advice please.

Charlie

"Charlie Bress" wrote in message
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I am working on an older HP Pavilion Model 6830.
The first complaint is that it would not turn on. I pressed the on switch
several times and it fired up.
Now it will not shut down. Even pulling out the line cord doesn't reset
it.
Plug the cord back in and it is still on. The p/s is an ATX-105.

There is nothing else attached. No keyboard, no monitor. I am just going
by
the sound of the fan and front panel LED.

The power on switch goes to the mobo through a connector. Unplugging this
connector and testing the switch it tests good for continuity. It is a
momentary contact switch which tells me that there is latch someplace. Is
this latch somewhere on the mobo or is it in the p/s itself?

Advice please.

Charlie



Check the bios- there's often a setting to configure the power switch mode,
and whether the PC switches back on automatically after a power failure, or
unplugging the mains lead in your case.

If you still have no luck, trying clearing the CMOS. There's usually a
jumper on the motherboard to achieve this. I've known a corrupted CMOS to
cause some very strange symptoms.


It is quite common for ATX motherboards to require the power switch to be
held in for several seconds to power down, as jakdedert suggests.


Dave

"Dave D" wrote in message
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"Charlie Bress" wrote in message
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I am working on an older HP Pavilion Model 6830.
The first complaint is that it would not turn on. I pressed the on switch
several times and it fired up.
Now it will not shut down. Even pulling out the line cord doesn't reset
it.
Plug the cord back in and it is still on. The p/s is an ATX-105.

There is nothing else attached. No keyboard, no monitor. I am just going
by
the sound of the fan and front panel LED.

The power on switch goes to the mobo through a connector. Unplugging this
connector and testing the switch it tests good for continuity. It is a
momentary contact switch which tells me that there is latch someplace.
Is
this latch somewhere on the mobo or is it in the p/s itself?

Advice please.

Charlie



Check the bios- there's often a setting to configure the power switch
mode, and whether the PC switches back on automatically after a power
failure, or unplugging the mains lead in your case.

If you still have no luck, trying clearing the CMOS. There's usually a
jumper on the motherboard to achieve this. I've known a corrupted CMOS to
cause some very strange symptoms.


It is quite common for ATX motherboards to require the power switch to be
held in for several seconds to power down, as jakdedert suggests.


Dave


That feature requires ( I believe) that the OS is running. I never get that
far
And unplugging the .power line for an extended period should reset a normal
system.

But I will try it anyway just because I have been wrong before.

Charlie

"Charlie Bress" wrote in message
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Check the bios- there's often a setting to configure the power switch
mode, and whether the PC switches back on automatically after a power
failure, or unplugging the mains lead in your case.

If you still have no luck, trying clearing the CMOS. There's usually a
jumper on the motherboard to achieve this. I've known a corrupted CMOS
to
cause some very strange symptoms.


It is quite common for ATX motherboards to require the power switch to
be
held in for several seconds to power down, as jakdedert suggests.


Dave


That feature requires ( I believe) that the OS is running. I never get
that
far
And unplugging the .power line for an extended period should reset a
normal
system.

No, it's a BIOS-level feature. You can set it so that the PC turns on when
the line is connected as noted above so that if, for example, you're running
a web server for your business, you don't have to turn it back on if there's
a power failure. My system allows you to "return to previous state" when
the power is re-applied, i.e. if it was off when the power died, it stays
off, and vice versa.

"Charlie Bress" wrote in message
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"Dave D" wrote in message
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"Charlie Bress" wrote in message
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I am working on an older HP Pavilion Model 6830.
The first complaint is that it would not turn on. I pressed the on
switch
several times and it fired up.
Now it will not shut down. Even pulling out the line cord doesn't reset
it.
Plug the cord back in and it is still on. The p/s is an ATX-105.

There is nothing else attached. No keyboard, no monitor. I am just going
by
the sound of the fan and front panel LED.

The power on switch goes to the mobo through a connector. Unplugging
this
connector and testing the switch it tests good for continuity. It is a
momentary contact switch which tells me that there is latch someplace.
Is
this latch somewhere on the mobo or is it in the p/s itself?

Advice please.

Charlie



Check the bios- there's often a setting to configure the power switch
mode, and whether the PC switches back on automatically after a power
failure, or unplugging the mains lead in your case.

If you still have no luck, trying clearing the CMOS. There's usually a
jumper on the motherboard to achieve this. I've known a corrupted CMOS to
cause some very strange symptoms.


It is quite common for ATX motherboards to require the power switch to be
held in for several seconds to power down, as jakdedert suggests.


Dave


That feature requires ( I believe) that the OS is running. I never get
that far
And unplugging the .power line for an extended period should reset a
normal system.

But I will try it anyway just because I have been wrong before.

Charlie

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I tried holding the power switch down but still no shut down.
And then I took an old p/s that is not a mini and won't fit the box and
plugged it into the mobo and one drive to draw some power.
This supply also came on when the power cord was plugged in and it too could
not be shut down with the power button.
Unless someone has a better idea I am almost convinced that it is a mobo
problem.

Charlie

Charlie Bress wrote:
I am working on an older HP Pavilion Model 6830.
The first complaint is that it would not turn on. I pressed the on switch
several times and it fired up.
Now it will not shut down. Even pulling out the line cord doesn't reset it.
Plug the cord back in and it is still on. The p/s is an ATX-105.

There is nothing else attached. No keyboard, no monitor. I am just going by
the sound of the fan and front panel LED.

The power on switch goes to the mobo through a connector. Unplugging this
connector and testing the switch it tests good for continuity. It is a
momentary contact switch which tells me that there is latch someplace. Is
this latch somewhere on the mobo or is it in the p/s itself?

Advice please.

Charlie




I've seen this problem a few times caused by bad electrolytic capacitors
in the power supply. Often the PSU is just replaced though, unless it's
a high end one it probably isn't really worth fixing unless you just
want the challenge.

"Charlie Bress" wrote in message
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I tried holding the power switch down but still no shut down.
And then I took an old p/s that is not a mini and won't fit the box and
plugged it into the mobo and one drive to draw some power.
This supply also came on when the power cord was plugged in and it too
could not be shut down with the power button.
Unless someone has a better idea I am almost convinced that it is a mobo
problem.

Charlie


It certainly sounds like a motherboard problem, did you try my suggestions
like clearing the CMOS?

Have you tried removing all but essential hardware, and have you tested the
memory?

Have a close look at the electrolytic capacitors on the motherboard and
check they aren't domed and/or leaking. Apart from that, there's not much
you can do but replace the motherboard.

Dave

On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:59:08 -0500, "Charlie Bress"
wrote:

I am working on an older HP Pavilion Model 6830.
The first complaint is that it would not turn on. I pressed the on switch
several times and it fired up.
Now it will not shut down. Even pulling out the line cord doesn't reset it.
Plug the cord back in and it is still on. The p/s is an ATX-105.

There is nothing else attached. No keyboard, no monitor. I am just going by
the sound of the fan and front panel LED.

The power on switch goes to the mobo through a connector. Unplugging this
connector and testing the switch it tests good for continuity. It is a
momentary contact switch which tells me that there is latch someplace. Is
this latch somewhere on the mobo or is it in the p/s itself?

Advice please.

Charlie



It's probably not the power supply. The power it turned on and off by
the motherboard. The front power switch just tells the motherboard to
send the power on signal to the power supply. Check the motherboard
for bad caps near the CPU:

http://cquirke.mvps.org/badcaps.htm

If you don't see any of those, try removing the CMOS battery (a flat
"watch" battery on the motherboard) and leaving it unplugged over
night. Check that the CMOS battery reads at least 3v. A bad CMOS
battery can cause problems.
Andy Cuffe