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Ground potential differnet between 2 bldgs
Why would there be a 3 volt difference between the grounds on 2 buildings
that are wired to the same meter? I have an out building at my house which is wired to the hosue but the ground reads voltage between the house and the out building's wiring.. Is this usual? thanks - Mike |
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Yes,
If you want them at the same potential then you are going to have to run a seperate ground wire from your out building to your main buildings ground connection point. Depending on the distance will deturmine the ground wires gauge. You can try adding a new ground rod to your out building and your main building. A Hammer drill works great for driving in ground rods. Re do and retighten all of your grounds. RJ |
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Ground potential differnet between 2 bldgs
In article , "Michael Kennedy"
wrote: Why would there be a 3 volt difference between the grounds on 2 buildings that are wired to the same meter? I have an out building at my house which is wired to the hosue but the ground reads voltage between the house and the out building's wiring.. Is this usual? Mike- The 3 volts is probably caused by different currents flowing in the two 240 VAC lines. The difference current flows through the neutral wire back to the transformer on the power pole, and a voltage difference will exist due to the IR-drop. In other words, you are only measuring part of the circuit. There is likely more voltage dropped between the transformer and the main power box at the house. Another interesting measurement is the difference between each side of the 240 VAC and neutral. I had a problem with bright flickering lights and found there was a loose connection where the neutral wire connected inside the main power box. If the connection had completely broken, there might have been equipment damage resulting from unbalanced loads causing wildly different voltages on the two sides. Three volts sounds low, but it could be the symptom of a more serious problem. Fred |
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Another interesting measurement is the difference between each side of the
240 VAC and neutral. I had a problem with bright flickering lights and found there was a loose connection where the neutral wire connected inside the main power box. If the connection had completely broken, there might have been equipment damage resulting from unbalanced loads causing wildly different voltages on the two sides. Three volts sounds low, but it could be the symptom of a more serious problem. Fred I was thinking that the neutral / ground wire might have a bad connection and was actually worrying about exactly what you were saying.. I guess I'll check out the neutral lug in the main breaker panel. -Mike |
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Michael Kennedy wrote:
Why would there be a 3 volt difference between the grounds on 2 buildings that are wired to the same meter? I have an out building at my house which is wired to the hosue but the ground reads voltage between the house and the out building's wiring.. Is this usual? thanks - Mike Yes, earth has its own conductivity and voltage differences.... I read an idea just stringing a long wire east/west would generate electricity...never tried it... I know they tried it in space once... But in La Canada, CA, my uncle built our home on a mountain in DG (decomposed granite) and because of such long run of pipes, he made a really good ground...said its from old days of farm houses that had lightning rods on the barns.... He dug a 3-4 foot hole 1 ft. dia, then mixed up a batch of clay/sand/rock salt to pour in it...and wet it with water......said the salt will permeate further into the earth over time.......then used a 1" copper rod about 6ft long and drove it into it..then connected a large clamp to our incoming water pipe...then also continued the large wire to our incoming power box ground with another clamp on the conduit and box.... He said lightning now has a very good path into the earth....and any galvanic action between our water pipes and surrounding mineral deposits or other neighbors pipes will be minimal....there's might all corrode away, but ours wouldn't...?? We never had any problems...and my Crystal set radio with my 50ft antenna on the roof worked great too!! I once was in Malta on a wooden ship which had a full copper plated bottom over the wood up to the water line...and any other ships docked nearby would have all its zinc anodes dissapear very fast....and any steel fittings/props etc. disolve away......very scary....big harbor battery's ha ha.... Copper rules..... Now days there is actual meters which measure the electric current between the ships hull and surrounding water, and can inject electric current to diminish the galvanic action....helps kill marine growth too.... Having to drydock a large ship to clean hulls/replace zinc anodes isn't cheap.....electrolysis sucks - Gerry |
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"G.E.M." wrote in message ... Michael Kennedy wrote: Why would there be a 3 volt difference between the grounds on 2 buildings that are wired to the same meter? I have an out building at my house which is wired to the hosue but the ground reads voltage between the house and the out building's wiring.. Is this usual? thanks - Mike Yes, earth has its own conductivity and voltage differences.... I read an idea just stringing a long wire east/west would generate electricity...never tried it... I know they tried it in space once... There wouldn't be any power generated unless a magnetic field was CHANGING (cutting) thru your wire. The Nasa project was to see if they could change the orbit of the satellite and conversely induce a current (generate electricity) using a long wire and electricity. |
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You don't need to do it in space. We had the same effect on a longwire
antenna strung between two 150 foot towers about 150 feet apart. On a "good" day you could draw sparks a couple of inches long. G.E.M. wrote: Yes, earth has its own conductivity and voltage differences.... I read an idea just stringing a long wire east/west would generate electricity...never tried it... I know they tried it in space once... |
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That's only one way to generate electricity. Have you heard of
electrostatic charges? Jeff Rigby wrote: There wouldn't be any power generated unless a magnetic field was CHANGING (cutting) thru your wire. The Nasa project was to see if they could change the orbit of the satellite and conversely induce a current (generate electricity) using a long wire and electricity. |
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