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A bit complicated. Not so much repair as setup.

I got a new Television a few weeks ago and it's my first widescreen
(philips). I was wondering could someone answer a couple of questions
about it.

This is the problem: when I switch the tv on from standby or from the
on switch it always goes to bbc1 (RF)(first channel) the format always
goes onto super zoom mode (a screen filling mode).
We normally watch tv via a ski digi box it is set up for widescreen.
So I then have to switch on the sky box then switch to the av(1)
channel for sky then switch through the screen modes(x6) to get to
widescreen. If I go to an RF channel it goes to super zoom mode
nessecitating the screen mode switch dance again. Is there anyway that
the tv can be set to that it will stay on widescreen, or failing that
switch to widescreen when I switch to av1(sky).

Setup:
sky box connected to video and tv using scart.
dvd connected to tv using scart
video connected to tv using scart
RF from rooftop ariel going through sky box then tv and another tv (sky
box has 2 rf outputs).

The tv has 3 scart sockets
1 scart which has sky attached is audio/video inputs and rgb
2 scart which has dvd attached is audio/video s-vhs
3 scart has audio video input and the video is attached.


The sky box has two scart outputs, it appears that the top scart does
no screen format switching or channel switching and the bottom does.
Now when I connect the bottom scart sky output to scart 1 of the tv,
the tv turns onto sky when sky is turned on etc, ok. But bbc 1 (first
channel) via RF is superimposed by sky. When the sky box is turned off
the RF bbc 1 comes back on. This does not happen when using the top
scart output from the sky box but then I have no screen/channel
switching.

Now you might say why do you need rf bbc1 rf anyway? Well the sky box
is connected to my daughters tv so she can watch sky if we are watching
one of the rf channels, this is not possible if one of them is being
'blocked'.

So the questions a how can I get the tv to format switch
automatically and keep bbc1(rf) using the bottom sky box scart
connector or stay on widescreen permanently and save me switching
through the screen modes.

The ideal situation would be if I switched the sky box on the tv would
switch over to av(1) and go onto widescreen mode.

Thanks for any input

Steven


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Michael
 
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Default scarts, widescreen switching and sky

I see a similar problem often with ntl digiboxes. The problem is with your
TV.

If you search through the onscreen menu (on TV), look for an option called
AUTO ASPECT, AUTO SCREEN MODE or something similar- you want to switch that
OFF. On some TV's you need to repeat it on every channel (including AV1, AV2
etc). Now it's down to your TV, set the screen size you want. Some TV's only
remember one setting, some remember the setting for each channel. Good luck!

Also, for good measure, explore the digibox menu's to set the screen size to
what you want (not familiar with sky, but I assume you can).

Let us know how you get on.

Michael
PaisleyPCdoctor

"Steven" wrote in message
ng.com...
A bit complicated. Not so much repair as setup.

I got a new Television a few weeks ago and it's my first widescreen
(philips). I was wondering could someone answer a couple of questions
about it.

This is the problem: when I switch the tv on from standby or from the on
switch it always goes to bbc1 (RF)(first channel) the format always goes
onto super zoom mode (a screen filling mode).
We normally watch tv via a ski digi box it is set up for widescreen.
So I then have to switch on the sky box then switch to the av(1) channel
for sky then switch through the screen modes(x6) to get to widescreen. If
I go to an RF channel it goes to super zoom mode nessecitating the screen
mode switch dance again. Is there anyway that the tv can be set to that it
will stay on widescreen, or failing that switch to widescreen when I
switch to av1(sky).

Setup:
sky box connected to video and tv using scart.
dvd connected to tv using scart
video connected to tv using scart
RF from rooftop ariel going through sky box then tv and another tv (sky
box has 2 rf outputs).

The tv has 3 scart sockets
1 scart which has sky attached is audio/video inputs and rgb
2 scart which has dvd attached is audio/video s-vhs
3 scart has audio video input and the video is attached.


The sky box has two scart outputs, it appears that the top scart does no
screen format switching or channel switching and the bottom does.
Now when I connect the bottom scart sky output to scart 1 of the tv, the
tv turns onto sky when sky is turned on etc, ok. But bbc 1 (first channel)
via RF is superimposed by sky. When the sky box is turned off the RF bbc 1
comes back on. This does not happen when using the top scart output from
the sky box but then I have no screen/channel switching.

Now you might say why do you need rf bbc1 rf anyway? Well the sky box is
connected to my daughters tv so she can watch sky if we are watching one
of the rf channels, this is not possible if one of them is being
'blocked'.

So the questions a how can I get the tv to format switch automatically
and keep bbc1(rf) using the bottom sky box scart connector or stay on
widescreen permanently and save me switching through the screen modes.

The ideal situation would be if I switched the sky box on the tv would
switch over to av(1) and go onto widescreen mode.

Thanks for any input

Steven




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Steven
 
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Thanks for the reply.

I already switched the automatic mode off, it's a global setting and
unfortunately there are no individual channel settings.

I also have the sky box switched to widescreen.

There must be something in the bottom scart connector on the digi box
that pushes the sky channel through onto bbc 1. I tried cutting wires
20 and then 19 in the scart lead but this only resulted in no sky
signal at all.

If I find a solution I'll post it. It's more of a nuisance than anything.

Steven Moore



On 2005-10-11 20:36:19 +0100, "Michael" said:

I see a similar problem often with ntl digiboxes. The problem is with your TV.

If you search through the onscreen menu (on TV), look for an option
called AUTO ASPECT, AUTO SCREEN MODE or something similar- you want to
switch that OFF. On some TV's you need to repeat it on every channel
(including AV1, AV2 etc). Now it's down to your TV, set the screen size
you want. Some TV's only remember one setting, some remember the
setting for each channel. Good luck!

Also, for good measure, explore the digibox menu's to set the screen
size to what you want (not familiar with sky, but I assume you can).

Let us know how you get on.

Michael
PaisleyPCdoctor

"Steven" wrote in message
ng.com...
A bit complicated. Not so much repair as setup.

I got a new Television a few weeks ago and it's my first widescreen
(philips). I was wondering could someone answer a couple of questions
about it.

This is the problem: when I switch the tv on from standby or from the
on switch it always goes to bbc1 (RF)(first channel) the format always
goes onto super zoom mode (a screen filling mode).
We normally watch tv via a ski digi box it is set up for widescreen.
So I then have to switch on the sky box then switch to the av(1)
channel for sky then switch through the screen modes(x6) to get to
widescreen. If I go to an RF channel it goes to super zoom mode
nessecitating the screen mode switch dance again. Is there anyway that
the tv can be set to that it will stay on widescreen, or failing that
switch to widescreen when I switch to av1(sky).

Setup:
sky box connected to video and tv using scart.
dvd connected to tv using scart
video connected to tv using scart
RF from rooftop ariel going through sky box then tv and another tv (sky
box has 2 rf outputs).

The tv has 3 scart sockets
1 scart which has sky attached is audio/video inputs and rgb
2 scart which has dvd attached is audio/video s-vhs
3 scart has audio video input and the video is attached.


The sky box has two scart outputs, it appears that the top scart does
no screen format switching or channel switching and the bottom does.
Now when I connect the bottom scart sky output to scart 1 of the tv,
the tv turns onto sky when sky is turned on etc, ok. But bbc 1 (first
channel) via RF is superimposed by sky. When the sky box is turned off
the RF bbc 1 comes back on. This does not happen when using the top
scart output from the sky box but then I have no screen/channel
switching.

Now you might say why do you need rf bbc1 rf anyway? Well the sky box
is connected to my daughters tv so she can watch sky if we are watching
one of the rf channels, this is not possible if one of them is being
'blocked'.

So the questions a how can I get the tv to format switch
automatically and keep bbc1(rf) using the bottom sky box scart
connector or stay on widescreen permanently and save me switching
through the screen modes.

The ideal situation would be if I switched the sky box on the tv would
switch over to av(1) and go onto widescreen mode.

Thanks for any input

Steven



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Michael
 
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Probably really obvious, I'm assuming you have tried other scart leads- I
get through loads of cheap ones and I get problems with about 10% of them.

M.

"Steven" wrote in message
ng.com...
Thanks for the reply.

I already switched the automatic mode off, it's a global setting and
unfortunately there are no individual channel settings.

I also have the sky box switched to widescreen.

There must be something in the bottom scart connector on the digi box that
pushes the sky channel through onto bbc 1. I tried cutting wires 20 and
then 19 in the scart lead but this only resulted in no sky signal at all.

If I find a solution I'll post it. It's more of a nuisance than anything.

Steven Moore



On 2005-10-11 20:36:19 +0100, "Michael" said:

I see a similar problem often with ntl digiboxes. The problem is with
your TV.

If you search through the onscreen menu (on TV), look for an option
called AUTO ASPECT, AUTO SCREEN MODE or something similar- you want to
switch that OFF. On some TV's you need to repeat it on every channel
(including AV1, AV2 etc). Now it's down to your TV, set the screen size
you want. Some TV's only remember one setting, some remember the setting
for each channel. Good luck!

Also, for good measure, explore the digibox menu's to set the screen size
to what you want (not familiar with sky, but I assume you can).

Let us know how you get on.

Michael
PaisleyPCdoctor

"Steven" wrote in message
ng.com...
A bit complicated. Not so much repair as setup.

I got a new Television a few weeks ago and it's my first widescreen
(philips). I was wondering could someone answer a couple of questions
about it.

This is the problem: when I switch the tv on from standby or from the
on switch it always goes to bbc1 (RF)(first channel) the format always
goes onto super zoom mode (a screen filling mode).
We normally watch tv via a ski digi box it is set up for widescreen.
So I then have to switch on the sky box then switch to the av(1) channel
for sky then switch through the screen modes(x6) to get to widescreen.
If I go to an RF channel it goes to super zoom mode nessecitating the
screen mode switch dance again. Is there anyway that the tv can be set
to that it will stay on widescreen, or failing that switch to widescreen
when I switch to av1(sky).

Setup:
sky box connected to video and tv using scart.
dvd connected to tv using scart
video connected to tv using scart
RF from rooftop ariel going through sky box then tv and another tv (sky
box has 2 rf outputs).

The tv has 3 scart sockets
1 scart which has sky attached is audio/video inputs and rgb
2 scart which has dvd attached is audio/video s-vhs
3 scart has audio video input and the video is attached.


The sky box has two scart outputs, it appears that the top scart does no
screen format switching or channel switching and the bottom does.
Now when I connect the bottom scart sky output to scart 1 of the tv, the
tv turns onto sky when sky is turned on etc, ok. But bbc 1 (first
channel) via RF is superimposed by sky. When the sky box is turned off
the RF bbc 1 comes back on. This does not happen when using the top
scart output from the sky box but then I have no screen/channel
switching.

Now you might say why do you need rf bbc1 rf anyway? Well the sky box is
connected to my daughters tv so she can watch sky if we are watching one
of the rf channels, this is not possible if one of them is being
'blocked'.

So the questions a how can I get the tv to format switch
automatically and keep bbc1(rf) using the bottom sky box scart connector
or stay on widescreen permanently and save me switching through the
screen modes.

The ideal situation would be if I switched the sky box on the tv would
switch over to av(1) and go onto widescreen mode.

Thanks for any input

Steven





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Yes I've tried a couple. I actually had to dump one as I was getting
ghosting with it when I first connected up.

Steven
On 2005-10-12 12:54:11 +0100, "Michael" said:

Probably really obvious, I'm assuming you have tried other scart leads-
I get through loads of cheap ones and I get problems with about 10% of
them.

M.

"Steven" wrote in message
ng.com...
Thanks for the reply.

I already switched the automatic mode off, it's a global setting and
unfortunately there are no individual channel settings.

I also have the sky box switched to widescreen.

There must be something in the bottom scart connector on the digi box
that pushes the sky channel through onto bbc 1. I tried cutting wires
20 and then 19 in the scart lead but this only resulted in no sky
signal at all.

If I find a solution I'll post it. It's more of a nuisance than anything.

Steven Moore



On 2005-10-11 20:36:19 +0100, "Michael" said:

I see a similar problem often with ntl digiboxes. The problem is with your TV.

If you search through the onscreen menu (on TV), look for an option
called AUTO ASPECT, AUTO SCREEN MODE or something similar- you want to
switch that OFF. On some TV's you need to repeat it on every channel
(including AV1, AV2 etc). Now it's down to your TV, set the screen size
you want. Some TV's only remember one setting, some remember the
setting for each channel. Good luck!

Also, for good measure, explore the digibox menu's to set the screen
size to what you want (not familiar with sky, but I assume you can).

Let us know how you get on.

Michael
PaisleyPCdoctor

"Steven" wrote in message
ng.com...
A bit complicated. Not so much repair as setup.

I got a new Television a few weeks ago and it's my first widescreen
(philips). I was wondering could someone answer a couple of questions
about it.

This is the problem: when I switch the tv on from standby or from the
on switch it always goes to bbc1 (RF)(first channel) the format always
goes onto super zoom mode (a screen filling mode).
We normally watch tv via a ski digi box it is set up for widescreen.
So I then have to switch on the sky box then switch to the av(1)
channel for sky then switch through the screen modes(x6) to get to
widescreen. If I go to an RF channel it goes to super zoom mode
nessecitating the screen mode switch dance again. Is there anyway that
the tv can be set to that it will stay on widescreen, or failing that
switch to widescreen when I switch to av1(sky).

Setup:
sky box connected to video and tv using scart.
dvd connected to tv using scart
video connected to tv using scart
RF from rooftop ariel going through sky box then tv and another tv (sky
box has 2 rf outputs).

The tv has 3 scart sockets
1 scart which has sky attached is audio/video inputs and rgb
2 scart which has dvd attached is audio/video s-vhs
3 scart has audio video input and the video is attached.


The sky box has two scart outputs, it appears that the top scart does
no screen format switching or channel switching and the bottom does.
Now when I connect the bottom scart sky output to scart 1 of the tv,
the tv turns onto sky when sky is turned on etc, ok. But bbc 1 (first
channel) via RF is superimposed by sky. When the sky box is turned off
the RF bbc 1 comes back on. This does not happen when using the top
scart output from the sky box but then I have no screen/channel
switching.

Now you might say why do you need rf bbc1 rf anyway? Well the sky box
is connected to my daughters tv so she can watch sky if we are watching
one of the rf channels, this is not possible if one of them is being
'blocked'.

So the questions a how can I get the tv to format switch
automatically and keep bbc1(rf) using the bottom sky box scart
connector or stay on widescreen permanently and save me switching
through the screen modes.

The ideal situation would be if I switched the sky box on the tv would
switch over to av(1) and go onto widescreen mode.

Thanks for any input

Steven



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