Our old KDC-17 KitchenAid dishwasher let out a bang the other night
and now its front door suddenly feels really heavy. I figure there
were some springs inside which helped to counterbalance the weight of
the door and that those springs have now broken.

Can anyone tell me whether there are 1 or 2 springs in there, whether
they are hard to replace, and whether they are the most likely
suspects or are there other linkage parts which are more likely to be
broken?

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Jim Adney
Madison, WI 53711 USA
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Jim Adney wrote:
Our old KDC-17 KitchenAid dishwasher let out a bang the other night
and now its front door suddenly feels really heavy. I figure there
were some springs inside which helped to counterbalance the weight of
the door and that those springs have now broken.

Can anyone tell me whether there are 1 or 2 springs in there, whether
they are hard to replace, and whether they are the most likely
suspects or are there other linkage parts which are more likely to be
broken?

Hi Jim...

Happened to me too a coupla years ago. Not a kitchenaid,
but I imagine they're all pretty much the same. Heavy
doesn't half describe it, 'less you're much much younger
than I am

Two springs, one on either side of the door. In my case
the "hook" end of one of them had rusted enough that it
broke off.

I'm lucky enough to have a next door neighbor who's heavy
into cars and all of the tools. He was good enough to
heat and form a new hook on the end and it was good as
new, though the door a teensy bit lighter than it was.
(wants to gently self close, now)

A heads-up if I may? When dis-assembling and re-assembling
get everyone else out of the room, 'specially the youngsters,
and wear a pair of safety glasses. They're very very strong
springs, and great risk of turning into missiles

Take care.

Ken

Your neighbor should have been able to "stretch" the spring a little bit
while it was still very hot to reduce some of the tension. It's probably
not worth the effort at this point for you to disassemble and do this now,
but for Jim knowing this in advance may help prevent the self closure
problem.

Sounds like good advice on the safety precautions.

Bob

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Jim Adney wrote:
Our old KDC-17 KitchenAid dishwasher let out a bang the other night
and now its front door suddenly feels really heavy. I figure there
were some springs inside which helped to counterbalance the weight of
the door and that those springs have now broken.

Hi Jim...

Happened to me too a coupla years ago. Not a kitchenaid,
but I imagine they're all pretty much the same. Heavy
doesn't half describe it, 'less you're much much younger
than I am

Two springs, one on either side of the door. In my case
the "hook" end of one of them had rusted enough that it
broke off.

I'm lucky enough to have a next door neighbor who's heavy
into cars and all of the tools. He was good enough to
heat and form a new hook on the end and it was good as
new, though the door a teensy bit lighter than it was.
(wants to gently self close, now)

Jim Adney wrote:
Can anyone tell me whether there are 1 or 2 springs in there, whether
they are hard to replace, and whether they are the most likely
suspects or are there other linkage parts which are more likely to be
broken?

Some dishwashers have springs on the side of the tub that act directly
on a bracket or linkage that is attached to the door. Others have
springs that act on steel cables that run over pulleys. You might take
off the kick plate and look; if you don't see any springs or pulleys
down there, then they're probably on either side of the tub - 2 springs
total, usually. Assuming it's a built-in, if you can't get to the sides
of the dishwasher through the kitchen cabinets, you may have to pull it
out of the cabinet a few inches to get at the springs.

Follow Ken's good advice on safety when fooling with the springs.

Matt Roberds

"Jim Adney" wrote in message
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Our old KDC-17 KitchenAid dishwasher let out a bang the other night
and now its front door suddenly feels really heavy. I figure there
were some springs inside which helped to counterbalance the weight of
the door and that those springs have now broken.

Can anyone tell me whether there are 1 or 2 springs in there, whether
they are hard to replace, and whether they are the most likely
suspects or are there other linkage parts which are more likely to be
broken?



Call up an appliance shop and ask what they list as far as replacement
springs, they should be able to tell you what's in there. As for replacing
them, I've never done door springs but it can't be too hard.

On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 10:11:48 -0500 Jim Adney
wrote:

Can anyone tell me whether there are 1 or 2 springs in there, whether
they are hard to replace, and whether they are the most likely
suspects or are there other linkage parts which are more likely to be
broken?

Thanks to everyone for your suggestions, but the dishwasher is fixed.

I had the day off, so one of the things I did was to stop at our local
place that sells appliance parts. She knew what I needed, but didn't
have them in stock. She could get them here in one day, but the price
was going to be $10 each, and each KitchenAid has 2.

Since I didn't actually know that the springs were my problem, $20
seemed a bit stiff. I went home and decided to dive into it.

At the bottom front of the dishwasher there's a kick panel and a
larger painted panel. I removed both (total of 4 screws) and there
were my 2 springs, one intact and one broken.

I grabbed the 2 pieces of the broken one and drove up to our hardware
store, where I found a pretty good match for $3.80. It fits fine and
works fine. I worked a little LPS-3 into each one just to hold back
corrosion. Time will tell how long this fix lasts, but my guess is
that it will be plenty long.

BTW, the KitchenAid springs were a snap to install. No tools, just
slip them into position. I was surprised; they are not particularly
stiff springs.

My parents have the same dishwasher with the same problem. I'll buy
another cheap spring to install there next time we're visiting.

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Jim Adney
Madison, WI 53711 USA
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