Anybody know the difference between the words:
a) Refurbished
b) Reconditioned
c) Remanufactured
d) Rebuild


Thanks,
Eugene

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Anybody know the difference between the words:
a) Refurbished

The device was broken when it left the factory, it was sent back to be
fixed. Now it's back in the store

b) Reconditioned

I'm not sure about this one. Probably a cosmetic fix.

c) Remanufactured

There was a flaw in the design. It was corrected and signed off by a
engineer. Then the device was fixed by the manufacturer.

d) Rebuild

The device broke and some 3rd party fixed it. Think engine rebuild - taken
apart and all worn & broken parts were replaced.



Thanks,
Eugene


np

Dwayne

well they all start with R

wrote in message
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Anybody know the difference between the words:
a) Refurbished
repaired and cosmetically resembles stock
b) Reconditioned
repaired and made close to stock functionally
c) Remanufactured
repaired and made better then new
d) Rebuild
repair with lots of parts replaced






Thanks,
Eugene

"Dwayne" wrote in message
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wrote in message
oups.com...
Anybody know the difference between the words:
a) Refurbished

The device was broken when it left the factory, it was sent back to be
fixed. Now it's back in the store

The tech took a quick look and didn't bother to fix it.

b) Reconditioned
I'm not sure about this one. Probably a cosmetic fix.

The tech cleaned the cabinet and didn't bother to fix it.

c) Remanufactured

There was a flaw in the design. It was corrected and signed off by a
engineer. Then the device was fixed by the manufacturer.

The tech replaced a fuse but otherwise didn't bother to fix it.

d) Rebuild

The device broke and some 3rd party fixed it. Think engine rebuild -
taken
apart and all worn & broken parts were replaced.

The tech put a new cord on it but otherwise didn't bother to fix it.

N

No, no, no, that's what is the 'same', the difference is that the words have
different number of letters.

Other than that, they theoretically can mean different things (as described in
another Email) but basically they all mean the same thing .... it was faulty,
had a minor fix & is being sold at maximum profit.

well they all start with R

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Anybody know the difference between the words:
a) Refurbished
repaired and cosmetically resembles stock
b) Reconditioned
repaired and made close to stock functionally
c) Remanufactured
repaired and made better then new
d) Rebuild
repair with lots of parts replaced






Thanks,
Eugene



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In article .com,
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Anybody know the difference between the words:
a) Refurbished
b) Reconditioned
c) Remanufactured
d) Rebuild

They only mean what the seller wants them to mean, I'd say. Never seen any
legal definitions.

In replacement car engine terms I'd say

a) Checked and ok. Maybe repaired with re-claimed parts.
b) The major wearing parts - like pistons - replaced.
c) All wearing parts replaced.
d) Fully remanufactured to the standards of a new makers unit or better.

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In article .com,
wrote:
Anybody know the difference between the words:
a) Refurbished
b) Reconditioned
c) Remanufactured
d) Rebuild


Refurbished and Reconditioned are grand words intended to give confidence to
prospective purchasers. In some places, Refurbished and Reconditioned means
they've just polished the outer case of whatever the item is. In some
other places they just mean faulty customer returns that have been repaired.

Alt Beer wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...

In article .com,
wrote:

Anybody know the difference between the words:
a) Refurbished
b) Reconditioned
c) Remanufactured
d) Rebuild



Refurbished and Reconditioned are grand words intended to give confidence to
prospective purchasers. In some places, Refurbished and Reconditioned means
they've just polished the outer case of whatever the item is. In some
other places they just mean faulty customer returns that have been repaired.






In some cases, take for example Hewlett Packard and Toshiba,
Remanufactured means that the original units were either overstock at
the importers, or overstock at the resellers (high street retailer of
your choice) When a newer model is introduced, the old models can no
longer be sold at a profit so the units still in stock are returned to
the importers or manufacturers agents who repack them and sell them out
at a much reduced price to firms who specialise in stacking them high
and moving them fast. In the UK www.morgancomputers.co.uk for example.

It can also mean the the unit was returned as faulty and replaced by the
store who then returned to unit for repair to the manufacturer or their
agent who returned the unit to as new condition.

Ron

The terms all include Re-, which could also mean that the first owner
Refused to own it (for numerous reasons), and that someone feels that there
is a good chance that they can Re-sell it. It appears to be a good gimmick
here in the U.S.

I'd consider getting something with a good rebate over trying to save money
by bying Re- merchandise.

The likelyhood of something actually being Factory Reconditioned is highly
unlikely, since most products aren't sold in the same country (or even
continent) where they're manufactured. Nearly all of the Re- stuff is done
by sub-contractors, and is probably just the lowest bidder.

There are a lotta terms that are used loosely that are just convenient ways
of saying that the item was previously owned, and is now being recycled if
someone will buy it again.

In recent years, you don't know what you're getting, even if the article
isn't specifically marked as something referring to being previously owned.

When I bought a new (not re-anything) Packard Bell 1020? monitor about ten
years ago, the enclosed literature stated that the unit was (or may have
been) manufactured using components that included remanufactured/reused
components which meet required specifications.

Before that monitor, I had a crappy looking monitor from that Shack store,
that appeared to be a Re-something with a model number that didn't appear in
their product line (wasn't in any of their catalogs). It seemed to be a
previous not-very-good model in a new case, assigned a different model
number, and sold as a new unit.

Manufacturers, retailers and repair depots will obviously do almost anything
to squeeze more profits out of returned, poorly designed, badly produced and
possibly even damaged in shipment goods.

Cheers
WB
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Anybody know the difference between the words:
a) Refurbished
b) Reconditioned
c) Remanufactured
d) Rebuild


Thanks,
Eugene





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"Dwayne" wrote in message
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wrote in message
oups.com...
Anybody know the difference between the words:
a) Refurbished

The device was broken when it left the factory, it was sent back to be
fixed. Now it's back in the store

The tech took a quick look and didn't bother to fix it.

b) Reconditioned
I'm not sure about this one. Probably a cosmetic fix.

The tech cleaned the cabinet and didn't bother to fix it.

c) Remanufactured

There was a flaw in the design. It was corrected and signed off by a
engineer. Then the device was fixed by the manufacturer.

The tech replaced a fuse but otherwise didn't bother to fix it.

d) Rebuild

The device broke and some 3rd party fixed it. Think engine rebuild -
taken
apart and all worn & broken parts were replaced.

The tech put a new cord on it but otherwise didn't bother to fix it.

N


It's a cynical view, but one I fully agree with. When I started my job as a
typewriter technician at IBM in 1975 we were offering a reconditioning
service which involved the replacement of all wearable components. The
service was quite expensive, but you ended up with an as-new typewriter.

At about that time some other companies offered a much cheaper
"refurbishing" service. They'd put the typewriter through a solvent bath,
then re-lubricate it - that was that! You ended up with a machine which
looked brand spanking new - but was a worn out old heap of junk.

Whatever the service being offered - refurbishing, reconditioning, etc., I'd
want to know exactly what work was done, and some guarrantee of such work.

Henry.

In article ,
hemyd wrote:
It's a cynical view, but one I fully agree with. When I started my job
as a typewriter technician at IBM in 1975 we were offering a
reconditioning service which involved the replacement of all wearable
components. The service was quite expensive, but you ended up with an
as-new typewriter.

At about that time some other companies offered a much cheaper
"refurbishing" service. They'd put the typewriter through a solvent
bath, then re-lubricate it - that was that! You ended up with a machine
which looked brand spanking new - but was a worn out old heap of junk.

Whatever the service being offered - refurbishing, reconditioning, etc.,
I'd want to know exactly what work was done, and some guarrantee of
such work.

The fact is that most things like consumer electronics these days are made
in near fully automated factories - and perhaps in low wage countries.

So to strip and fully recondition them then reassemble could well cost
more in labour than a new one. Some things you *know* will deteriorate
with age - CRTs etc. And capacitors. But much solid state electronics
doesn't have a defined life. The solder however may well have.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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wrote in message
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Anybody know the difference between the words:
a) Refurbished
b) Reconditioned
c) Remanufactured
d) Rebuild


Thanks,
Eugene


Refurbished - an overused term that has come to define an item that is used
and tested operational at this time. It used to mean repaired at a factory
or ASP level after the item failed DOA or nearly new. Now the term applies
to anything that is used and happens to be still working and that proper
operation has been assured by the seller. It's all B.S.

Bob Kos wrote:
wrote in message
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Anybody know the difference between the words:
a) Refurbished
b) Reconditioned
c) Remanufactured
d) Rebuild


Thanks,
Eugene



Refurbished - an overused term that has come to define an item that is used
and tested operational at this time. It used to mean repaired at a factory
or ASP level after the item failed DOA or nearly new. Now the term applies
to anything that is used and happens to be still working and that proper
operation has been assured by the seller. It's all B.S.

Hi...

Darned spin-doctor talk. Hate it!!

Car dealers have "demos". Supposedly good. Really, really means
that it's been driven hard by various and sundry people who have no
vested interest in it at all. Worse than used.

Maybe the survivor folks could create a new reality show. Instead of
outwit, outlast, outplay it would be outlie, outcheat, outuse.

Rant over.

Ken

You mean Pre_Owned...
Sounds better than USED

Car dealers have "demos". Supposedly good. Really, really means
that it's been driven hard by various and sundry people who have no
vested interest in it at all. Worse than used.

Maybe the survivor folks could create a new reality show. Instead of
outwit, outlast, outplay it would be outlie, outcheat, outuse.

Rant over.

Ken

I think they have graduated to 'pre-loved' these days

David

kip wrote:

You mean Pre_Owned...
Sounds better than USED

Car dealers have "demos". Supposedly good. Really, really means
that it's been driven hard by various and sundry people who have no
vested interest in it at all. Worse than used.

Maybe the survivor folks could create a new reality show. Instead of
outwit, outlast, outplay it would be outlie, outcheat, outuse.

Rant over.

Ken