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I'm behaviorally modeling a _system_ that includes the discrete device
Supertex VP2450. At the Supertex/Microchip site, it says no Spice model available :-) Does anyone know of a model? Thanks! ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice ![]() | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 09:27:27 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: I'm behaviorally modeling a _system_ that includes the discrete device Supertex VP2450. At the Supertex/Microchip site, it says no Spice model available :-) Does anyone know of a model? Thanks! ...Jim Thompson Why not just use some similar part that you have a model for? That mosfet is not at all unusual, and they are not precision parts anyhow. That's what I usually do for vanilla diodes, transistors, or mosfets: pick something close that LT Spice already has. Exotica, like phemts or depletion fets or jfets, justify more exact models. Or, if you really want a VP2450 model, pick a similar mosfet model and tweak the params. -- John Larkin Highland Technology Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com Precision electronic instrumentation |
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On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 10:01:42 -0700, John Larkin
wrote: On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 09:27:27 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: I'm behaviorally modeling a _system_ that includes the discrete device Supertex VP2450. At the Supertex/Microchip site, it says no Spice model available :-) Does anyone know of a model? Thanks! ...Jim Thompson Why not just use some similar part that you have a model for? That mosfet is not at all unusual, and they are not precision parts anyhow. 500V PMOS That's what I usually do for vanilla diodes, transistors, or mosfets: pick something close that LT Spice already has. Exotica, like phemts or depletion fets or jfets, justify more exact models. Or, if you really want a VP2450 model, pick a similar mosfet model and tweak the params. The problem is nailing the GBW product of this monster. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice ![]() | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 10:24:59 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 10:01:42 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 09:27:27 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: I'm behaviorally modeling a _system_ that includes the discrete device Supertex VP2450. At the Supertex/Microchip site, it says no Spice model available :-) Does anyone know of a model? Thanks! ...Jim Thompson Why not just use some similar part that you have a model for? That mosfet is not at all unusual, and they are not precision parts anyhow. 500V PMOS Spice models of semiconductors rarely include breakdown voltage. LT Spice is happy to run a 1N4148 at -100 kilovolts. That part is not avalanche rated, so don't let the drain voltage hit -500. That's what I usually do for vanilla diodes, transistors, or mosfets: pick something close that LT Spice already has. Exotica, like phemts or depletion fets or jfets, justify more exact models. Or, if you really want a VP2450 model, pick a similar mosfet model and tweak the params. The problem is nailing the GBW product of this monster. ...Jim Thompson As I said, pick something close. The GBW won't be precise anyhow. Your circuit should have a lot of tolerance for fet capacitances and such. Hey, you are supposed to be the model creation guru, so create a model. -- John Larkin Highland Technology Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com Precision electronic instrumentation |
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On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 10:49:43 -0700, John Larkin
wrote: On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 10:24:59 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 10:01:42 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 09:27:27 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: I'm behaviorally modeling a _system_ that includes the discrete device Supertex VP2450. At the Supertex/Microchip site, it says no Spice model available :-) Does anyone know of a model? Thanks! ...Jim Thompson Why not just use some similar part that you have a model for? That mosfet is not at all unusual, and they are not precision parts anyhow. 500V PMOS Spice models of semiconductors rarely include breakdown voltage. LT Spice is happy to run a 1N4148 at -100 kilovolts. That part is not avalanche rated, so don't let the drain voltage hit -500. That's what I usually do for vanilla diodes, transistors, or mosfets: pick something close that LT Spice already has. Exotica, like phemts or depletion fets or jfets, justify more exact models. Or, if you really want a VP2450 model, pick a similar mosfet model and tweak the params. The problem is nailing the GBW product of this monster. ...Jim Thompson As I said, pick something close. The GBW won't be precise anyhow. Your circuit should have a lot of tolerance for fet capacitances and such. Hey, you are supposed to be the model creation guru, so create a model. Takes data to make a model. That is lacking, and the customers measurements are suspect. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice ![]() | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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