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Jim Thompson[_3_] April 27th 14 05:27 PM

VP2450 Spice Model
 
I'm behaviorally modeling a _system_ that includes the discrete device
Supertex VP2450.

At the Supertex/Microchip site, it says no Spice model available :-)

Does anyone know of a model?

Thanks!

...Jim Thompson
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John Larkin April 27th 14 06:01 PM

VP2450 Spice Model
 
On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 09:27:27 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

I'm behaviorally modeling a _system_ that includes the discrete device
Supertex VP2450.

At the Supertex/Microchip site, it says no Spice model available :-)

Does anyone know of a model?

Thanks!

...Jim Thompson


Why not just use some similar part that you have a model for? That mosfet is not
at all unusual, and they are not precision parts anyhow.

That's what I usually do for vanilla diodes, transistors, or mosfets: pick
something close that LT Spice already has. Exotica, like phemts or depletion
fets or jfets, justify more exact models.

Or, if you really want a VP2450 model, pick a similar mosfet model and tweak the
params.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation

Jim Thompson[_3_] April 27th 14 06:24 PM

VP2450 Spice Model
 
On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 10:01:42 -0700, John Larkin
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 09:27:27 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

I'm behaviorally modeling a _system_ that includes the discrete device
Supertex VP2450.

At the Supertex/Microchip site, it says no Spice model available :-)

Does anyone know of a model?

Thanks!

...Jim Thompson


Why not just use some similar part that you have a model for? That mosfet is not
at all unusual, and they are not precision parts anyhow.


500V PMOS


That's what I usually do for vanilla diodes, transistors, or mosfets: pick
something close that LT Spice already has. Exotica, like phemts or depletion
fets or jfets, justify more exact models.

Or, if you really want a VP2450 model, pick a similar mosfet model and tweak the
params.


The problem is nailing the GBW product of this monster.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson | mens |
| Analog Innovations | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

John Larkin April 27th 14 06:49 PM

VP2450 Spice Model
 
On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 10:24:59 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 10:01:42 -0700, John Larkin
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 09:27:27 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

I'm behaviorally modeling a _system_ that includes the discrete device
Supertex VP2450.

At the Supertex/Microchip site, it says no Spice model available :-)

Does anyone know of a model?

Thanks!

...Jim Thompson


Why not just use some similar part that you have a model for? That mosfet is not
at all unusual, and they are not precision parts anyhow.


500V PMOS


Spice models of semiconductors rarely include breakdown voltage. LT Spice is
happy to run a 1N4148 at -100 kilovolts.

That part is not avalanche rated, so don't let the drain voltage hit -500.



That's what I usually do for vanilla diodes, transistors, or mosfets: pick
something close that LT Spice already has. Exotica, like phemts or depletion
fets or jfets, justify more exact models.

Or, if you really want a VP2450 model, pick a similar mosfet model and tweak the
params.


The problem is nailing the GBW product of this monster.

...Jim Thompson


As I said, pick something close. The GBW won't be precise anyhow. Your circuit
should have a lot of tolerance for fet capacitances and such.

Hey, you are supposed to be the model creation guru, so create a model.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation

Jim Thompson[_3_] April 27th 14 07:07 PM

VP2450 Spice Model¸
 
On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 10:49:43 -0700, John Larkin
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 10:24:59 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 10:01:42 -0700, John Larkin
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 09:27:27 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

I'm behaviorally modeling a _system_ that includes the discrete device
Supertex VP2450.

At the Supertex/Microchip site, it says no Spice model available :-)

Does anyone know of a model?

Thanks!

...Jim Thompson

Why not just use some similar part that you have a model for? That mosfet is not
at all unusual, and they are not precision parts anyhow.


500V PMOS


Spice models of semiconductors rarely include breakdown voltage. LT Spice is
happy to run a 1N4148 at -100 kilovolts.

That part is not avalanche rated, so don't let the drain voltage hit -500.



That's what I usually do for vanilla diodes, transistors, or mosfets: pick
something close that LT Spice already has. Exotica, like phemts or depletion
fets or jfets, justify more exact models.

Or, if you really want a VP2450 model, pick a similar mosfet model and tweak the
params.


The problem is nailing the GBW product of this monster.

...Jim Thompson


As I said, pick something close. The GBW won't be precise anyhow. Your circuit
should have a lot of tolerance for fet capacitances and such.

Hey, you are supposed to be the model creation guru, so create a model.


Takes data to make a model. That is lacking, and the customers
measurements are suspect.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson | mens |
| Analog Innovations | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Maynard A. Philbrook Jr. April 27th 14 10:05 PM

VP2450 Spice Model
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 10:24:59 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 10:01:42 -0700, John Larkin
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 09:27:27 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

I'm behaviorally modeling a _system_ that includes the discrete device
Supertex VP2450.

At the Supertex/Microchip site, it says no Spice model available :-)

Does anyone know of a model?

Thanks!

...Jim Thompson

Why not just use some similar part that you have a model for? That mosfet is not
at all unusual, and they are not precision parts anyhow.


500V PMOS


Spice models of semiconductors rarely include breakdown voltage. LT Spice is
happy to run a 1N4148 at -100 kilovolts.

That part is not avalanche rated, so don't let the drain voltage hit -500.



That's what I usually do for vanilla diodes, transistors, or mosfets: pick
something close that LT Spice already has. Exotica, like phemts or depletion
fets or jfets, justify more exact models.

Or, if you really want a VP2450 model, pick a similar mosfet model and tweak the
params.


The problem is nailing the GBW product of this monster.

...Jim Thompson


As I said, pick something close. The GBW won't be precise anyhow. Your circuit
should have a lot of tolerance for fet capacitances and such.

Hey, you are supposed to be the model creation guru, so create a model.



I suppose one could insert the "BV" parameter in a existing model, that
is, if the model being used has that.

If you use a VDMOS, you can apply the BV Vds(Break down voltage)

Oh well.

Jamie



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