Oppie wrote:
"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote in message
...

I was just trying to solve the Zen puzzle of how one would fix
a
soldering station with itself.


Sort of like when your reading glasses break, how can you see
to fix
them...
Some people have backup glasses (I do). Some people have backup
soldering irons (I have a $3 non-temperature controlled piece
that I'm quite skilled with).

On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:34:33 +0530, "pimpom"
wrote:

Oppie wrote:
"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote in message
...

I was just trying to solve the Zen puzzle of how one would fix
a
soldering station with itself.


Sort of like when your reading glasses break, how can you see
to fix
them...
Some people have backup glasses (I do).

Those of us who are myopic just get closer (though there are limits,
especially when cutting, grinding, soldering etc.)

Some people have backup
soldering irons (I have a $3 non-temperature controlled piece
that I'm quite skilled with).

I could even dig up an old, essentially unused, Weller soldering gun
if I had to. Or a fairly decent butane powered soldering iron.

Spehro Pefhany wrote:
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:34:33 +0530, "pimpom"

wrote:

Oppie wrote:

Sort of like when your reading glasses break, how can you see
to fix
them...
Some people have backup glasses (I do).

Those of us who are myopic just get closer (though there are
limits,
especially when cutting, grinding, soldering etc.)

I didn't know how lucky I was until I began to grow longsighted
in my late 40s. Before that, I could focus from infinity down to
perhaps 3 inches. I could count individual dots on a glossy
magazine cover without any difficulty and also read typewritten
text from 15 ft across a dimly lit room. Now I can read a
newspaper without glasses by holding it at least 10 inches away,
but can only do it comfortably in good light.

"pimpom" wrote in message
...
I didn't know how lucky I was until I began to grow longsighted in my late
40s. Before that, I could focus from infinity down to perhaps 3 inches. I
could count individual dots on a glossy magazine cover without any
difficulty and also read typewritten text from 15 ft across a dimly lit
room. Now I can read a newspaper without glasses by holding it at least 10
inches away, but can only do it comfortably in good light.


Ain't it great aging gracefully ;)

"Spehro Pefhany" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:34:33 +0530, "pimpom"
wrote:

Oppie wrote:
"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote in message
...

I was just trying to solve the Zen puzzle of how one would fix
a
soldering station with itself.


Sort of like when your reading glasses break, how can you see
to fix
them...
Some people have backup glasses (I do).

Those of us who are myopic just get closer (though there are limits,
especially when cutting, grinding, soldering etc.)

Some people have backup
soldering irons (I have a $3 non-temperature controlled piece
that I'm quite skilled with).

I could even dig up an old, essentially unused, Weller soldering gun
if I had to. Or a fairly decent butane powered soldering iron.



Years ago I bought a cheap soldering gun (god only knows why!), a few weeks
later someone donated a nearly new genuine Weller - I can't recall ever
having used either!

On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:13:08 -0000, "ian field"
wrote:


"Spehro Pefhany" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:34:33 +0530, "pimpom"
wrote:

Oppie wrote:
"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote in message
...

I was just trying to solve the Zen puzzle of how one would fix
a
soldering station with itself.


Sort of like when your reading glasses break, how can you see
to fix
them...
Some people have backup glasses (I do).

Those of us who are myopic just get closer (though there are limits,
especially when cutting, grinding, soldering etc.)

Some people have backup
soldering irons (I have a $3 non-temperature controlled piece
that I'm quite skilled with).

I could even dig up an old, essentially unused, Weller soldering gun
if I had to. Or a fairly decent butane powered soldering iron.



Years ago I bought a cheap soldering gun (god only knows why!), a few weeks
later someone donated a nearly new genuine Weller - I can't recall ever
having used either!


They are not bad for checking EMI immunity. ;-)

On a sunny day (Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:36:53 -0500) it happened Spehro Pefhany
wrote in
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:13:08 -0000, "ian field"
wrote:


"Spehro Pefhany" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:34:33 +0530, "pimpom"
wrote:

Oppie wrote:
"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote in message
...

I was just trying to solve the Zen puzzle of how one would fix
a
soldering station with itself.


Sort of like when your reading glasses break, how can you see
to fix
them...
Some people have backup glasses (I do).

Those of us who are myopic just get closer (though there are limits,
especially when cutting, grinding, soldering etc.)

Some people have backup
soldering irons (I have a $3 non-temperature controlled piece
that I'm quite skilled with).

I could even dig up an old, essentially unused, Weller soldering gun
if I had to. Or a fairly decent butane powered soldering iron.



Years ago I bought a cheap soldering gun (god only knows why!), a few weeks
later someone donated a nearly new genuine Weller - I can't recall ever
having used either!


They are not bad for checking EMI immunity. ;-)

I did that by switching the Weller on/off, one could make a PC crash with it.
(back EMF transformer).
I have a much better one now:
http://www.testberichte.de/test/prod..._p59 358.html
Just got some new tips.
Temperature control is excellent too.
Auto switch off if you forget it.
Been in use now for many years!
And was a fraction of teh price of a Weller.
The old Weller element broke down (really Weller is a piece of **** if you look
at the construction) and the only part left is that transformer with the big back EMF.
Soldering guns should be outlawed in electronics :-)

The other thing is I used Weller tips at 370°C, but now I solder 60/40 with 320°C, tips live longer.

ian field wrote:

Years ago I bought a cheap soldering gun (god only knows why!), a few weeks
later someone donated a nearly new genuine Weller - I can't recall ever
having used either!


I used Weller guns for decades, back in the tube days. I bought the
first in '66 and still have a couple. I put a 12 foot coiled AC cord on
one of them that was kept at the bench. They were used on service calls
where you didn't have time to wait for a soldering iron to heat up, then
cool down.

I also have a Wen soldering gun like this:
http://bmwdean.home.att.net/soldergun.htm


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