** See pic of rim drive CD player.

Made in Italy, circa 1968 .....



..... Phil

On 2009-04-29, Phil Allison wrote:


** See pic of rim drive CD player.

Made in Italy, circa 1968 .....


chuckle

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:09:28 +1000, "Phil Allison"
wrote:



** See pic of rim drive CD player.

Made in Italy, circa 1968 .....



.... Phil



I've seen the rim used to draw the disc in and onto the spindle hub.

Not as a drive mech though.

Wouldn't matter for a CD or other low bit rate device as any flutter
would easily be rendered meaningless by the 4x or other spin rate.

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:09:28 +1000, "Phil Allison" wrote:



** See pic of rim drive CD player.

Made in Italy, circa 1968 .....



.... Phil

that looks like a old 45 player from a jukebox.

"Wulf" wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:09:28 +1000, "Phil Allison"
wrote:



** See pic of rim drive CD player.

Made in Italy, circa 1968 .....



.... Phil

that looks like a old 45 player from a jukebox.

I thought it was an ancient echo/chorus box. one magnetic record head and 5
read heads (multiple taps). One head may be for erase or there may be a
permanent magnet used for that purpose.
Sort of like these http://www.estecho.com/gear_echos.html

This one is closer: the Fender Soundette (1967-68)
http://books.google.com/books?id=N_8...27#PPA 166,M1

"Oppie"
"Phil Allison"


** See pic of rim drive CD player.

Made in Italy, circa 1968 .....

that looks like a old 45 player from a jukebox.

** Don't it just !

I thought it was an ancient echo/chorus box. one magnetic record head and
5 read heads (multiple taps). One head may be for erase or there may be a
permanent magnet used for that purpose.

** Yep - the unit is an all valve " Binson Echorec B2 "

The drum assembly is **exactly** 120 mm in diameter

- ie it the SAME as a CD or DVD.

Spoookyyyy !!!


There is a very thin steel band attached to the outside of an aluminium
support ring which is in turn attached to an inverted, pressed steel dish
sitting on a hefty bearing. The drum spins counter-clockwise at about 75
rpms making the head speed 19 ips.

The patented design was engineered in the late 1950s in Italy, as an
alternative to using short tape loops that had both poor performance and
wore out very quickly.


..... Phil

"Phil Allison" wrote in message
...

"Oppie"
"Phil Allison"


** See pic of rim drive CD player.

Made in Italy, circa 1968 .....

that looks like a old 45 player from a jukebox.

** Don't it just !

I thought it was an ancient echo/chorus box. one magnetic record head and
5 read heads (multiple taps). One head may be for erase or there may be a
permanent magnet used for that purpose.

** Yep - the unit is an all valve " Binson Echorec B2 "

The drum assembly is **exactly** 120 mm in diameter

- ie it the SAME as a CD or DVD.

Spoookyyyy !!!


There is a very thin steel band attached to the outside of an aluminium
support ring which is in turn attached to an inverted, pressed steel dish
sitting on a hefty bearing. The drum spins counter-clockwise at about 75
rpms making the head speed 19 ips.

The patented design was engineered in the late 1950s in Italy, as an
alternative to using short tape loops that had both poor performance and
wore out very quickly.


.... Phil

Here are a bunch of hits for the Echorec
http://www.google.com/search?source=...=0&oq=binson+e

There are some good videos listed there
http://video.google.com/videosearch?...um=5&ct=title#

I remember the group "McKendree Spring" back in about 1970. They had one
guy, Michael Dreyfus, playing violin with an electric pickup. I would assume
that this was an acoustic pickup since you can't put metal strings on a
violin (afik). In the song 'God bless the revolution' the entire band starts
the song and then all but Dreyfus leave the stage. Dreyfus then does a 10
minute solo, playing while operating a few tape echo/delay units. The affect
was awesome (and I was straight/sober at the time). I now have to look up to
see if the album is available and if it sounds as good today.
Oppie

"Oppie" wrote in message
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"Phil Allison" wrote in message
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"Oppie"
"Phil Allison"


** See pic of rim drive CD player.

Made in Italy, circa 1968 .....

that looks like a old 45 player from a jukebox.

** Don't it just !

I thought it was an ancient echo/chorus box. one magnetic record head
and 5 read heads (multiple taps). One head may be for erase or there may
be a permanent magnet used for that purpose.

** Yep - the unit is an all valve " Binson Echorec B2 "

The drum assembly is **exactly** 120 mm in diameter

- ie it the SAME as a CD or DVD.

Spoookyyyy !!!


There is a very thin steel band attached to the outside of an aluminium
support ring which is in turn attached to an inverted, pressed steel dish
sitting on a hefty bearing. The drum spins counter-clockwise at about 75
rpms making the head speed 19 ips.

The patented design was engineered in the late 1950s in Italy, as an
alternative to using short tape loops that had both poor performance and
wore out very quickly.


.... Phil

Here are a bunch of hits for the Echorec
http://www.google.com/search?source=...=0&oq=binson+e

There are some good videos listed there
http://video.google.com/videosearch?...um=5&ct=title#

I remember the group "McKendree Spring" back in about 1970. They had one
guy, Michael Dreyfus, playing violin with an electric pickup. I would
assume that this was an acoustic pickup since you can't put metal strings
on a violin (afik). In the song 'God bless the revolution' the entire band
starts the song and then all but Dreyfus leave the stage. Dreyfus then
does a 10 minute solo, playing while operating a few tape echo/delay
units. The affect was awesome (and I was straight/sober at the time). I
now have to look up to see if the album is available and if it sounds as
good today.
Oppie



Memory is not what it used to be...
song was "god bless the conspiracy"
Found it on p2p but no seeds : (