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Got some under-counter lighting strips, but I don't know what to use
for crimp tool? See PDF attachment. First page is "instructions", 2nd page is a photo. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice ![]() | E-mail Address at Website Fax ![]() | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ... Got some under-counter lighting strips, but I don't know what to use for crimp tool? I've crimped similar before using a small locking grip pliers (Mole Grips). I set the adjustment for a tight sliding fit to the part being crimped to then squeezed the crimp on until the pliers locked. Unlock pliers and remove, job done. HTH Brian |
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On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:12:06 GMT, "Brian MW0GKX"
wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... Got some under-counter lighting strips, but I don't know what to use for crimp tool? I've crimped similar before using a small locking grip pliers (Mole Grips). I set the adjustment for a tight sliding fit to the part being crimped to then squeezed the crimp on until the pliers locked. Unlock pliers and remove, job done. HTH Brian OK. I was thinking "Vise Grips" might work. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice ![]() | E-mail Address at Website Fax ![]() | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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![]() Jim Thompson wrote: Got some under-counter lighting strips, but I don't know what to use for crimp tool? See PDF attachment. First page is "instructions", 2nd page is a photo. The instructions list a web page. Ask the OEM what to use. -- aioe.org is home to cowards and terrorists Add this line to your news proxy nfilter.dat file * drop Path:*aioe.org!not-for-mail to drop all aioe.org traffic. http://improve-usenet.org/index.html Use any search engine other than Google till they stop polluting USENET with porn and junk commercial SPAM |
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On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:53:15 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: Got some under-counter lighting strips, but I don't know what to use for crimp tool? See PDF attachment. First page is "instructions", 2nd page is a photo. ...Jim Thompson Ratcheted cycling crimp device = vise grips. John |
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On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:04:27 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:15:33 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:53:15 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Got some under-counter lighting strips, but I don't know what to use for crimp tool? See PDF attachment. First page is "instructions", 2nd page is a photo. ...Jim Thompson Ratcheted cycling crimp device = vise grips. John Not even close. At best, a vice grip is a lever actuated cam force. It's a force? I thought it was a tool. Silly me. There is no ratcheting whatsoever. You can ratchet it if you want to. John |
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On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:14:23 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:53:14 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:04:27 -0700, Archimedes' Lever wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:15:33 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:53:15 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Got some under-counter lighting strips, but I don't know what to use for crimp tool? See PDF attachment. First page is "instructions", 2nd page is a photo. ...Jim Thompson Ratcheted cycling crimp device = vise grips. John Not even close. At best, a vice grip is a lever actuated cam force. It's a force? I thought it was a tool. Silly me. Yes, dumb****... you are silly. There is no ratcheting whatsoever. You can ratchet it if you want to. No, dumb****, you cannot. Ah, you must be DampMatter/AlwaysWrong/HeOfTheCornyNyms. Always arguing about nothing. Well, have a great day, doing whatever you do all day. John |
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![]() "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... Got some under-counter lighting strips, but I don't know what to use for crimp tool? See PDF attachment. First page is "instructions", 2nd page is a photo. ...Jim Thompson Parallel clamping force with load distribution to prevent cracking.... I'd use my pana-vise. Oppie |
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On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:51:43 GMT, "Oppie" wrote:
"Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... Got some under-counter lighting strips, but I don't know what to use for crimp tool? See PDF attachment. First page is "instructions", 2nd page is a photo. ...Jim Thompson Parallel clamping force with load distribution to prevent cracking.... I'd use my pana-vise. Oppie I have a _huge_ bench vise. I considered that. Might be best, low-cost, solution ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice ![]() | E-mail Address at Website Fax ![]() | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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![]() "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:12:06 GMT, "Brian MW0GKX" wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... Got some under-counter lighting strips, but I don't know what to use for crimp tool? OK. I was thinking "Vise Grips" might work. That's the American term that this poor Brit was trying to think of! Well done that man! Brian |
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On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:53:15 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: Got some under-counter lighting strips, but I don't know what to use for crimp tool? See PDF attachment. First page is "instructions", 2nd page is a photo. A ratcheted cycling crimp device, describes only a tool type, it does not indicate the tool head required for the crimp type or AWG applied. It's a bull**** instruction. There are a number of generic 'ratcheting' crimping tools available that will handle most gauges of wire, after some initial experimentation, but manufacturers of the terminal will usually be pretty specific about the tool required to do the job - and sell them. These people don't seem to indicate what the terminal part number or manufacturer is. In would guess this was close to being Tyco-Amp 'termi-foil' http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/c...60,17698,17714 tooling details from the data sheet: http://tinyurl.com/5ccelw As it's a simple barrel crimp, a generic crimping tool for the gauge of wire you're using will probably work. RL |
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On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:58:46 -0400, legg wrote:
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:53:15 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Got some under-counter lighting strips, but I don't know what to use for crimp tool? See PDF attachment. First page is "instructions", 2nd page is a photo. A ratcheted cycling crimp device, describes only a tool type, it does not indicate the tool head required for the crimp type or AWG applied. It's a bull**** instruction. There are a number of generic 'ratcheting' crimping tools available that will handle most gauges of wire, after some initial experimentation, but manufacturers of the terminal will usually be pretty specific about the tool required to do the job - and sell them. These people don't seem to indicate what the terminal part number or manufacturer is. In would guess this was close to being Tyco-Amp 'termi-foil' http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/c...60,17698,17714 tooling details from the data sheet: http://tinyurl.com/5ccelw As it's a simple barrel crimp, a generic crimping tool for the gauge of wire you're using will probably work. RL The terminal is like #2-329254-4. The #12 wire is already crimped. The "flag" part is what I must fold over the foil. I can't find a referenced tool :-( ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice ![]() | E-mail Address at Website Fax ![]() | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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![]() Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:58:46 -0400, legg wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:53:15 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Got some under-counter lighting strips, but I don't know what to use for crimp tool? See PDF attachment. First page is "instructions", 2nd page is a photo. A ratcheted cycling crimp device, describes only a tool type, it does not indicate the tool head required for the crimp type or AWG applied. It's a bull**** instruction. There are a number of generic 'ratcheting' crimping tools available that will handle most gauges of wire, after some initial experimentation, but manufacturers of the terminal will usually be pretty specific about the tool required to do the job - and sell them. These people don't seem to indicate what the terminal part number or manufacturer is. In would guess this was close to being Tyco-Amp 'termi-foil' http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/c...60,17698,17714 tooling details from the data sheet: http://tinyurl.com/5ccelw As it's a simple barrel crimp, a generic crimping tool for the gauge of wire you're using will probably work. RL The terminal is like #2-329254-4. The #12 wire is already crimped. The "flag" part is what I must fold over the foil. I can't find a referenced tool :-( Did you contact the manufacturer of the lights and ask them? Their website truly sucks, and is all in flash. http://www.csllighting.com/flash.html Personally, I wouldn't buy anything form somone with that crappy website. -- aioe.org is home to cowards and terrorists Add this line to your news proxy nfilter.dat file * drop Path:*aioe.org!not-for-mail to drop all aioe.org traffic. http://improve-usenet.org/index.html Use any search engine other than Google till they stop polluting USENET with porn and junk commercial SPAM |
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On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:24:37 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:58:46 -0400, legg wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:53:15 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Got some under-counter lighting strips, but I don't know what to use for crimp tool? See PDF attachment. First page is "instructions", 2nd page is a photo. A ratcheted cycling crimp device, describes only a tool type, it does not indicate the tool head required for the crimp type or AWG applied. It's a bull**** instruction. There are a number of generic 'ratcheting' crimping tools available that will handle most gauges of wire, after some initial experimentation, but manufacturers of the terminal will usually be pretty specific about the tool required to do the job - and sell them. These people don't seem to indicate what the terminal part number or manufacturer is. In would guess this was close to being Tyco-Amp 'termi-foil' http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/c...60,17698,17714 tooling details from the data sheet: http://tinyurl.com/5ccelw As it's a simple barrel crimp, a generic crimping tool for the gauge of wire you're using will probably work. RL The terminal is like #2-329254-4. The #12 wire is already crimped. The "flag" part is what I must fold over the foil. I can't find a referenced tool :-( Providing the correct foil type is inserted, I'd use an arbour press, or a hammer, after forming a rough positioning with pliers. The teeth are pre-formed for the job and are assumed to do all the work of establishing gas-tight penetration of the aluminum foil guage. Application and other info at http://tinyurl.com/6573zp actual tool page is http://tinyurl.com/62b96u RL |
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On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:07:10 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:58:46 -0400, legg wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:53:15 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Got some under-counter lighting strips, but I don't know what to use for crimp tool? See PDF attachment. First page is "instructions", 2nd page is a photo. A ratcheted cycling crimp device, describes only a tool type, it does not indicate the tool head required for the crimp type or AWG applied. It's a bull**** instruction. There are a number of generic 'ratcheting' crimping tools available that will handle most gauges of wire, after some initial experimentation, but manufacturers of the terminal will usually be pretty specific about the tool required to do the job - and sell them. These people don't seem to indicate what the terminal part number or manufacturer is. In would guess this was close to being Tyco-Amp 'termi-foil' http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/c...60,17698,17714 tooling details from the data sheet: http://tinyurl.com/5ccelw As it's a simple barrel crimp, a generic crimping tool for the gauge of wire you're using will probably work. RL The terminal is like #2-329254-4. The #12 wire is already crimped. The "flag" part is what I must fold over the foil. I can't find a referenced tool :-( Did you contact the manufacturer of the lights and ask them? Their website truly sucks, and is all in flash. http://www.csllighting.com/flash.html Personally, I wouldn't buy anything form somone with that crappy website. The light set is obsolete. I bought it five years ago, just getting around to installing it ;-) Round 'n' round... the crimps are Tyco/AMP, but I can't find a matching tool/jaws. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice ![]() | E-mail Address at Website Fax ![]() | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:11:44 -0400, legg wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:24:37 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:58:46 -0400, legg wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:53:15 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Got some under-counter lighting strips, but I don't know what to use for crimp tool? See PDF attachment. First page is "instructions", 2nd page is a photo. A ratcheted cycling crimp device, describes only a tool type, it does not indicate the tool head required for the crimp type or AWG applied. It's a bull**** instruction. There are a number of generic 'ratcheting' crimping tools available that will handle most gauges of wire, after some initial experimentation, but manufacturers of the terminal will usually be pretty specific about the tool required to do the job - and sell them. These people don't seem to indicate what the terminal part number or manufacturer is. In would guess this was close to being Tyco-Amp 'termi-foil' http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/c...60,17698,17714 tooling details from the data sheet: http://tinyurl.com/5ccelw As it's a simple barrel crimp, a generic crimping tool for the gauge of wire you're using will probably work. RL The terminal is like #2-329254-4. The #12 wire is already crimped. The "flag" part is what I must fold over the foil. I can't find a referenced tool :-( Providing the correct foil type is inserted, I'd use an arbour press, or a hammer, after forming a rough positioning with pliers. I don't have an arbor press, but I do have a big-ass bench vise that might do the trick. The teeth are pre-formed for the job and are assumed to do all the work of establishing gas-tight penetration of the aluminum foil guage. Application and other info at http://tinyurl.com/6573zp actual tool page is http://tinyurl.com/62b96u RL I found the "tool 68026" picture, but no $ or ordering info. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice ![]() | E-mail Address at Website Fax ![]() | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:20:26 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: I found the "tool 68026" picture, but no $ or ordering info. The old AMP customer service 'hotline' from the original catalog page for the part was 1-800-722-1111. AMP tools were always $$$$ and aimed at volume OEM. RL |
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On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:29:00 -0400, legg wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:20:26 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: I found the "tool 68026" picture, but no $ or ordering info. The old AMP customer service 'hotline' from the original catalog page for the part was 1-800-722-1111. AMP tools were always $$$$ and aimed at volume OEM. RL Found it... $455... I'll use the vise ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice ![]() | E-mail Address at Website Fax ![]() | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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![]() "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:51:43 GMT, "Oppie" wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... Got some under-counter lighting strips, but I don't know what to use for crimp tool? See PDF attachment. First page is "instructions", 2nd page is a photo. ...Jim Thompson Parallel clamping force with load distribution to prevent cracking.... I'd use my pana-vise. Oppie I have a _huge_ bench vise. I considered that. Might be best, low-cost, solution ;-) ...Jim Thompson We all have our special vises and even a few vices... |
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On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:37:36 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:29:00 -0400, legg wrote: On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:20:26 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: I found the "tool 68026" picture, but no $ or ordering info. The old AMP customer service 'hotline' from the original catalog page for the part was 1-800-722-1111. AMP tools were always $$$$ and aimed at volume OEM. RL Found it... $455... I'll use the vise ;-) = one half day's high-priced help for an OEM while their fresh sheep-skin tries to find the tool and order it. RL |
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![]() Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:07:10 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:58:46 -0400, legg wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:53:15 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Got some under-counter lighting strips, but I don't know what to use for crimp tool? See PDF attachment. First page is "instructions", 2nd page is a photo. A ratcheted cycling crimp device, describes only a tool type, it does not indicate the tool head required for the crimp type or AWG applied. It's a bull**** instruction. There are a number of generic 'ratcheting' crimping tools available that will handle most gauges of wire, after some initial experimentation, but manufacturers of the terminal will usually be pretty specific about the tool required to do the job - and sell them. These people don't seem to indicate what the terminal part number or manufacturer is. In would guess this was close to being Tyco-Amp 'termi-foil' http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/c...60,17698,17714 tooling details from the data sheet: http://tinyurl.com/5ccelw As it's a simple barrel crimp, a generic crimping tool for the gauge of wire you're using will probably work. RL The terminal is like #2-329254-4. The #12 wire is already crimped. The "flag" part is what I must fold over the foil. I can't find a referenced tool :-( Did you contact the manufacturer of the lights and ask them? Their website truly sucks, and is all in flash. http://www.csllighting.com/flash.html Personally, I wouldn't buy anything form somone with that crappy website. The light set is obsolete. I bought it five years ago, just getting around to installing it ;-) Round 'n' round... the crimps are Tyco/AMP, but I can't find a matching tool/jaws. Is there a local company that installs custom cabinets and lighting? They should still have the proper tool. -- aioe.org is home to cowards and terrorists Add this line to your news proxy nfilter.dat file * drop Path:*aioe.org!not-for-mail to drop all aioe.org traffic. http://improve-usenet.org/index.html Use any search engine other than Google till they stop polluting USENET with porn and junk commercial SPAM |
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On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:00:16 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:51:43 GMT, "Oppie" wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... Got some under-counter lighting strips, but I don't know what to use for crimp tool? See PDF attachment. First page is "instructions", 2nd page is a photo. ...Jim Thompson Parallel clamping force with load distribution to prevent cracking.... I'd use my pana-vise. Oppie I have a _huge_ bench vise. I considered that. Might be best, low-cost, solution ;-) ...Jim Thompson Except that it doesn't ratchet! What is that thing, anyhow? John |
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On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:13:08 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:07:10 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: In would guess this was close to being Tyco-Amp 'termi-foil' http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/c...60,17698,17714 tooling details from the data sheet: http://tinyurl.com/5ccelw As it's a simple barrel crimp, a generic crimping tool for the gauge of wire you're using will probably work. RL The terminal is like #2-329254-4. The #12 wire is already crimped. The "flag" part is what I must fold over the foil. I can't find a referenced tool :-( That catalogue page that was posted lists a 68026 AMP hand crimp tool as suitable for these terminals (however, I'd probably use pliers to start, followed by a vise if I only had a couple to do...) -- Peter Bennett, VE7CEI peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca |
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On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:14:29 -0700, Peter Bennett
wrote: On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:13:08 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:07:10 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: In would guess this was close to being Tyco-Amp 'termi-foil' http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/c...60,17698,17714 tooling details from the data sheet: http://tinyurl.com/5ccelw As it's a simple barrel crimp, a generic crimping tool for the gauge of wire you're using will probably work. RL The terminal is like #2-329254-4. The #12 wire is already crimped. The "flag" part is what I must fold over the foil. I can't find a referenced tool :-( That catalogue page that was posted lists a 68026 AMP hand crimp tool as suitable for these terminals (however, I'd probably use pliers to start, followed by a vise if I only had a couple to do...) That's what I'm going to do... particularly since the tool is _only_ $455 ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice ![]() | E-mail Address at Website Fax ![]() | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:01:47 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
wrote: On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:00:16 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:51:43 GMT, "Oppie" wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... Got some under-counter lighting strips, but I don't know what to use for crimp tool? See PDF attachment. First page is "instructions", 2nd page is a photo. ...Jim Thompson Parallel clamping force with load distribution to prevent cracking.... I'd use my pana-vise. Oppie I have a _huge_ bench vise. I considered that. Might be best, low-cost, solution ;-) You are a huge bench vice. You were considered a "low cost solution" by your former employer. Boy, did they ever find out how wrong they were. I have not had a "former employer" for 35 years... lots of clients, but no employers ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice ![]() | E-mail Address at Website Fax ![]() | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:01:47 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
wrote: On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:00:16 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:51:43 GMT, "Oppie" wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... Got some under-counter lighting strips, but I don't know what to use for crimp tool? See PDF attachment. First page is "instructions", 2nd page is a photo. ...Jim Thompson Parallel clamping force with load distribution to prevent cracking.... I'd use my pana-vise. Oppie I have a _huge_ bench vise. I considered that. Might be best, low-cost, solution ;-) You are a huge bench vice. You were considered a "low cost solution" by your former employer. Boy, did they ever find out how wrong they were. A bench vice is a crooked judge. John |
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