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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm
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On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:25:07 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm ...Jim Thompson Union or non union? -- Boris Mohar -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm ...Jim Thompson " the US figure is boosted by Americans working more hours per year than workers in most developed countries." |
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Jim Thompson wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm A couple of problems with this sort of statistic. First: "The ILO productivity figure is found by dividing a country's total output in a year by the number of people employed." Unfortunately, there's no way of telling what the cost of that output should be and whether or not it has properly been accounted for. They don't go around quoting 'Net' National Product but 'Gross' National Product. Take Boeing for example. They sell a $100 million airplane and the GNP is credited with $100 million. Its not evident from that number that a good part of the value of the product is foreign made and should properly be credited to its country of origin. Another problem: They are measuring output in dollars. Certainly a $10 American made widget will appear to be 10x the 'output' of a $1 Chinese widget, even though the widgets may be functionally identical. -- Paul Hovnanian ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dyslexics have more fnu. |
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On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:25:07 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm ...Jim Thompson It's impressive the progress Ireland has made: #2 in the world! John, Irish, of course. |
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"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm A couple of problems with this sort of statistic. First: "The ILO productivity figure is found by dividing a country's total output in a year by the number of people employed." I notice it doesn't factor in the hours worked. These are much higher in the USA than in Europe. I've always though productivity should be measured per man-hour. Graham |
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"Paul Hovnanian P.E." hath wroth:
Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm A couple of problems with this sort of statistic. First: "The ILO productivity figure is found by dividing a country's total output in a year by the number of people employed." Unfortunately, there's no way of telling what the cost of that output should be and whether or not it has properly been accounted for. They don't go around quoting 'Net' National Product but 'Gross' National Product. Actually, the desired term is GDP (gross domestic product) which includes compensation for inport/export values. See formulas at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_domestic_product The BBC article doesn't mention either GDP or GNP or any other recognizable metric. Since the ILO is part of the UN, they probably do their own numbers. It's difficult to tell what the ILO means by "country's total output", so let's backtrack: http://www.ilo.org/global/About_the_ILO/Media_and_public_information/Press_releases/lang--en/WCMS_083976/index.htm http://www.ilo.org/trends/ It appears to be their own unique and rather extensive method of measurement called KILM: http://www.ilo.org/public/english/employment/strat/kilm/index.htm The report is actually a 22Mbyte Windoze program, not a printed report. Cool: http://www.ilo.org/public/english/employment/strat/kilm/download.htm You have to register to download. I just started downloading, but it's taking nearly forever to download. Yawn... Take Boeing for example. They sell a $100 million airplane and the GNP is credited with $100 million. Its not evident from that number that a good part of the value of the product is foreign made and should properly be credited to its country of origin. GDP compensates for that. GNP does not. See formulas in the Wikipedia article. Another problem: They are measuring output in dollars. Certainly a $10 American made widget will appear to be 10x the 'output' of a $1 Chinese widget, even though the widgets may be functionally identical. Sure, but the cost of living is equally higher in the US than it is in China. It sorta balances using PPP (purchasing power parity): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29 Note the large differences in income depending upon the source. Wanna prove poverty? No problem, just juggle the metrics: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality Still downloading. Reminds me of when I was on dialup (shudder). Back when it's done. Incidentally, this has nothing to do with electronic schematics and electronics design, but I'll pretend not to notice. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
Productivity - Norway leads the table.
Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm ...Jim Thompson However, Americans work more hours per year than workers in most other developed economies. This is why, measured as value added per hour worked, Norway has the highest labour productivity level (US$ 37.99), followed by the United States (US$ 35.63) and France (US$ 35.08). http://www.ilo.org/global/About_the_...3976/index.htm Graham |
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Jeff Liebermann hath wroth:
It appears to be their own unique and rather extensive method of measurement called KILM: http://www.ilo.org/public/english/employment/strat/kilm/index.htm The report is actually a 22Mbyte Windoze program, not a printed report. Cool: http://www.ilo.org/public/english/employment/strat/kilm/download.htm You have to register to download. I just started downloading, but it's taking nearly forever to download. Yawn... Well, that was a suprise. Lots of numbers, mostly from UN sources such as: http://laborsta.ilo.org and executive summaries (pre-digested reports). The program exports data to Excel. Nice. Chaper 7 is on "Labor Productivity and Unit Labor Costs". That turned into somewhat of a suprise as they are showing: "Labour productivity (value added per person employed) as a percentage of the US level, manufacturing, transport and communication and trade, latest year" which seems to yield completely different results showing Netherlands and Finland as 120% and 110% the productivity of the US in several sectors. Is "value added" the same as productivity? Dunno. I couldn't find anything that directly relates to the ILO productivity conclusions or the BBC mutilation of the report. It's probably buried in there somewhere, but I can't find it. It's going to take some effort to digest this mess. Another time... -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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Eeyore wrote:
"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm A couple of problems with this sort of statistic. First: "The ILO productivity figure is found by dividing a country's total output in a year by the number of people employed." I notice it doesn't factor in the hours worked. These are much higher in the USA than in Europe. I've always though productivity should be measured per man-hour. In your case it would have to measured in donkey-picoseconds and even then, the numbers wouldn't be very good. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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Eeyore wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm ...Jim Thompson " the US figure is boosted by Americans working more hours per year than workers in most developed countries." That's why they are MORE productive, dumb ass. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
Productivity - Norway leads the table.
Eeyore wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm ...Jim Thompson However, Americans work more hours per year than workers in most other developed economies. This is why, measured as value added per hour worked, Norway has the highest labour productivity level (US$ 37.99), followed by the United States (US$ 35.63) and France (US$ 35.08). http://www.ilo.org/global/About_the_...3976/index.htm Graham Americans work more because they aren't lazy, like other countries. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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"Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm ...Jim Thompson " the US figure is boosted by Americans working more hours per year than workers in most developed countries." That's why they are MORE productive, dumb ass. Any idiot can produce more by working longer hours. The clever bit is to produce plenty *without* working all the hours of the day. Graham |
Productivity - Norway leads the table.
On 04/09/2007 07:35:02, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
Eeyore wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm ...Jim Thompson However, Americans work more hours per year than workers in most other developed economies. This is why, measured as value added per hour worked, Norway has the highest labour productivity level (US$ 37.99), followed by the United States (US$ 35.63) and France (US$ 35.08). http://www.ilo.org/global/About_the_...3976/index.htm Graham Americans work more because they aren't lazy, like other countries. Or simply because they are less efficient? -- --- Christian - Grenoble |
Productivity - Norway leads the table.
Christian Hostelet wrote:
On 04/09/2007 07:35:02, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm ...Jim Thompson However, Americans work more hours per year than workers in most other developed economies. This is why, measured as value added per hour worked, Norway has the highest labour productivity level (US$ 37.99), followed by the United States (US$ 35.63) and France (US$ 35.08). http://www.ilo.org/global/About_the_...3976/index.htm Graham Americans work more because they aren't lazy, like other countries. Or simply because they are less efficient? The GDP numbers don't support your hypothesis. |
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Eeyore wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm ...Jim Thompson " the US figure is boosted by Americans working more hours per year than workers in most developed countries." That's why they are MORE productive, dumb ass. Any idiot can produce more by working longer hours. The clever bit is to produce plenty *without* working all the hours of the day. Graham Idiots are rarely, if ever productive, no matter HOW many hours they work. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
Productivity - Norway leads the table.
Christian Hostelet wrote:
On 04/09/2007 07:35:02, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm ...Jim Thompson However, Americans work more hours per year than workers in most other developed economies. This is why, measured as value added per hour worked, Norway has the highest labour productivity level (US$ 37.99), followed by the United States (US$ 35.63) and France (US$ 35.08). http://www.ilo.org/global/About_the_...3976/index.htm Graham Americans work more because they aren't lazy, like other countries. Or simply because they are less efficient? Yawn. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm ...Jim Thompson I didn't know we produce much of anything anymore. The report sounds like it's based on a bunch of management level bs which means it is totally unreliable. |
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On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 09:19:21 -0400, Fred Bloggs
wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm ...Jim Thompson I didn't know we produce much of anything anymore. The report sounds like it's based on a bunch of management level bs which means it is totally unreliable. If you order 1000 items from a China factory for $5 each and sell them for $10, and it takes you two hours, you've just made $2,500 per hour. That figures into the "productivity". The Chinese workers, who work diligently for 1,000 hours to make the items, are only producing $5/hour of goods, so their "productivity" is very poor. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
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Don Bowey wrote: On 9/3/07 10:34 PM, in article , "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm ...Jim Thompson " the US figure is boosted by Americans working more hours per year than workers in most developed countries." That's why they are MORE productive, dumb ass. Productivity is measured as output per hour. No it's not, it is GDP per unit of workforce pure calendar year. Go back to your bingo. |
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Spehro Pefhany wrote: On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 09:19:21 -0400, Fred Bloggs wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm ...Jim Thompson I didn't know we produce much of anything anymore. The report sounds like it's based on a bunch of management level bs which means it is totally unreliable. If you order 1000 items from a China factory for $5 each and sell them for $10, and it takes you two hours, you've just made $2,500 per hour. That figures into the "productivity". The Chinese workers, who work diligently for 1,000 hours to make the items, are only producing $5/hour of goods, so their "productivity" is very poor. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany Right, no one is going to convince me that American workers are productive, this country is a pathetic, morally and ethically bankrupt cesspool of bullsh_t, statistically speaking of course. |
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On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:02:38 -0400, Fred Bloggs
wrote: Spehro Pefhany wrote: On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 09:19:21 -0400, Fred Bloggs wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm ...Jim Thompson I didn't know we produce much of anything anymore. The report sounds like it's based on a bunch of management level bs which means it is totally unreliable. If you order 1000 items from a China factory for $5 each and sell them for $10, and it takes you two hours, you've just made $2,500 per hour. That figures into the "productivity". The Chinese workers, who work diligently for 1,000 hours to make the items, are only producing $5/hour of goods, so their "productivity" is very poor. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany Right, no one is going to convince me that American workers are productive, this country is a pathetic, morally and ethically bankrupt cesspool of bullsh_t, statistically speaking of course. Fred, Why don't you move to France where you'll fit right in ?:-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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Fred Bloggs wrote: Don Bowey wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm ...Jim Thompson " the US figure is boosted by Americans working more hours per year than workers in most developed countries." That's why they are MORE productive, dumb ass. Productivity is measured as output per hour. No it's not, it is GDP per unit of workforce pure calendar year. Go back to your bingo. I see 'per unit of time' here. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/productivity Nothing about years whatever. Hours makes more sense given that wages are commonly paid according to an hourly rate. Graham |
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On 9/4/07 8:46 AM, in article , "Fred Bloggs"
wrote: Don Bowey wrote: On 9/3/07 10:34 PM, in article , "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm ...Jim Thompson " the US figure is boosted by Americans working more hours per year than workers in most developed countries." That's why they are MORE productive, dumb ass. Productivity is measured as output per hour. No it's not, it is GDP per unit of workforce pure calendar year. Go back to your bingo. Says the guy who obviously never studied economics. Let me put it more completely so perhaps you can follow it better: Productivity is measured as output per man-hour. Working more un-productive hours does not improve productivity. how else could you compare GDPs |
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On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:09:42 +0100, Eeyore
wrote: Fred Bloggs wrote: Don Bowey wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm ...Jim Thompson " the US figure is boosted by Americans working more hours per year than workers in most developed countries." That's why they are MORE productive, dumb ass. Productivity is measured as output per hour. No it's not, it is GDP per unit of workforce pure calendar year. Go back to your bingo. I see 'per unit of time' here. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/productivity Nothing about years whatever. Hours makes more sense given that wages are commonly paid according to an hourly rate. Graham Sheesh. It's quite possible for there to be more than one way to measure it. Here's a sensible general definition: http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=1473-2858(196506)16%3A2%3C177%3AP-TOCT%3E2.0.CO%3B2-4 Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
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Jim Thompson wrote: On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:02:38 -0400, Fred Bloggs wrote: Spehro Pefhany wrote: On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 09:19:21 -0400, Fred Bloggs wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm ...Jim Thompson I didn't know we produce much of anything anymore. The report sounds like it's based on a bunch of management level bs which means it is totally unreliable. If you order 1000 items from a China factory for $5 each and sell them for $10, and it takes you two hours, you've just made $2,500 per hour. That figures into the "productivity". The Chinese workers, who work diligently for 1,000 hours to make the items, are only producing $5/hour of goods, so their "productivity" is very poor. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany Right, no one is going to convince me that American workers are productive, this country is a pathetic, morally and ethically bankrupt cesspool of bullsh_t, statistically speaking of course. Fred, Why don't you move to France where you'll fit right in ?:-) ...Jim Thompson I think I will, I would enjoy living in France, at least there's some semblance of culture there. |
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Don Bowey wrote: On 9/4/07 8:46 AM, in article , "Fred Bloggs" wrote: Don Bowey wrote: On 9/3/07 10:34 PM, in article , "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm ...Jim Thompson " the US figure is boosted by Americans working more hours per year than workers in most developed countries." That's why they are MORE productive, dumb ass. Productivity is measured as output per hour. No it's not, it is GDP per unit of workforce pure calendar year. Go back to your bingo. Says the guy who obviously never studied economics. I never study anything, it either comes to me or it doesn't. Let me put it more completely so perhaps you can follow it better: Productivity is measured as output per man-hour. Working more un-productive hours does not improve productivity. how else could you compare GDPs That may be your understanding but the BBC report says productivity for purposes of that report is defined as I said it was. |
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Fred Bloggs wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote: On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:02:38 -0400, Fred Bloggs wrote: Fred, Why don't you move to France where you'll fit right in ?:-) I think I will, I would enjoy living in France, at least there's some semblance of culture there. Be careful! A lot of that 'culture' is resistant to all known antibiotics. On second thought: Enjoy yourself, while you last. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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Michael A. Terrell wrote: Fred Bloggs wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:02:38 -0400, Fred Bloggs wrote: Fred, Why don't you move to France where you'll fit right in ?:-) I think I will, I would enjoy living in France, at least there's some semblance of culture there. Be careful! A lot of that 'culture' is resistant to all known antibiotics. On second thought: Enjoy yourself, while you last. French medical science rivals the world, to this day they continue to make great breakthroughs. Louis Pasteur is the Isaac Newton of modern microbiology, a great genius. |
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Fred Bloggs wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote: Fred Bloggs wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:02:38 -0400, Fred Bloggs wrote: Fred, Why don't you move to France where you'll fit right in ?:-) I think I will, I would enjoy living in France, at least there's some semblance of culture there. Be careful! A lot of that 'culture' is resistant to all known antibiotics. On second thought: Enjoy yourself, while you last. French medical science rivals the world, to this day they continue to make great breakthroughs. Louis Pasteur is the Isaac Newton of modern microbiology, a great genius. What has he done lately, other than continue to decompose? He's been dead over 100 years: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Pasteur so his work isn't cutting edge. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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Fred Bloggs wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote: Fred Bloggs wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:02:38 -0400, Fred Bloggs wrote: Fred, Why don't you move to France where you'll fit right in ?:-) I think I will, I would enjoy living in France, at least there's some semblance of culture there. Be careful! A lot of that 'culture' is resistant to all known antibiotics. On second thought: Enjoy yourself, while you last. French medical science rivals the world, to this day they continue to make great breakthroughs. Louis Pasteur is the Isaac Newton of modern microbiology, a great genius. Yeah, and the Arab world used to be the cradle of civilization. Things change. |
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Don Bowey wrote:
On 9/3/07 10:34 PM, in article , "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm ...Jim Thompson " the US figure is boosted by Americans working more hours per year than workers in most developed countries." That's why they are MORE productive, dumb ass. Productivity is measured as output per hour. I have heard multiple reports that American workers take less vacation days, sick days and holidays compared to a lot of other countries. fewer employees producing the same goods reduces overhead for insurance, training, and other overhead costs thereby raising productivity, no matter HOW you measure it. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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Chris Jones wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote: Fred Bloggs wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: Fred Bloggs wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:02:38 -0400, Fred Bloggs wrote: Fred, Why don't you move to France where you'll fit right in ?:-) I think I will, I would enjoy living in France, at least there's some semblance of culture there. Be careful! A lot of that 'culture' is resistant to all known antibiotics. On second thought: Enjoy yourself, while you last. French medical science rivals the world, to this day they continue to make great breakthroughs. Louis Pasteur is the Isaac Newton of modern microbiology, a great genius. What has he done lately, other than continue to decompose? He's been dead over 100 years: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Pasteur so his work isn't cutting edge. Though it will be, when it reaches the UK. Fred will NEVER be cutting edge, no matter where he goes. ;-) -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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On 9/4/07 2:53 PM, in article , "Michael A.
Terrell" wrote: Don Bowey wrote: On 9/3/07 10:34 PM, in article , "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm ...Jim Thompson " the US figure is boosted by Americans working more hours per year than workers in most developed countries." That's why they are MORE productive, dumb ass. Productivity is measured as output per hour. I have heard multiple reports that American workers take less vacation days, sick days and holidays compared to a lot of other countries. fewer employees producing the same goods reduces overhead for insurance, training, and other overhead costs thereby raising productivity, no matter HOW you measure it. Well, it increases production, but not necessarily productivity. For that you must factor in time. |
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Don Bowey wrote:
On 9/4/07 10:47 AM, in article , "Chuck Harris" wrote: Fred Bloggs wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: Fred Bloggs wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:02:38 -0400, Fred Bloggs wrote: Fred, Why don't you move to France where you'll fit right in ?:-) I think I will, I would enjoy living in France, at least there's some semblance of culture there. Be careful! A lot of that 'culture' is resistant to all known antibiotics. On second thought: Enjoy yourself, while you last. French medical science rivals the world, to this day they continue to make great breakthroughs. Louis Pasteur is the Isaac Newton of modern microbiology, a great genius. Yeah, and the Arab world used to be the cradle of civilization. Things change. It still was. That didn't change You really need to try and follow the thread. Start again at the part that reads "French medical... FB uses Louis Pasteur as proof of France's current greatness in medical science. That is just like using the Arab world's centuries old expertise in mathematics as proof of its current scholarly greatness. |
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On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:39:19 -0700, Don Bowey
wrote: On 9/4/07 2:53 PM, in article , "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Don Bowey wrote: On 9/3/07 10:34 PM, in article , "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6976084.stm ...Jim Thompson " the US figure is boosted by Americans working more hours per year than workers in most developed countries." That's why they are MORE productive, dumb ass. Productivity is measured as output per hour. I have heard multiple reports that American workers take less vacation days, sick days and holidays compared to a lot of other countries. fewer employees producing the same goods reduces overhead for insurance, training, and other overhead costs thereby raising productivity, no matter HOW you measure it. Well, it increases production, but not necessarily productivity. For that you must factor in time. The definition does NOT have time in it other than ANNUAL! ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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Fred Bloggs wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote: Fred Bloggs wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:02:38 -0400, Fred Bloggs wrote: Fred, Why don't you move to France where you'll fit right in ?:-) I think I will, I would enjoy living in France, at least there's some semblance of culture there. Be careful! A lot of that 'culture' is resistant to all known antibiotics. On second thought: Enjoy yourself, while you last. French medical science rivals the world, to this day they continue to make great breakthroughs. Louis Pasteur is the Isaac Newton of modern microbiology, a great genius. Then why is the cancer mortality (for detected and treated cases) higher in Europe than in the US? Example: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/272078.stm Scroll to "Health spending and cancer survival rates". -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com |
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Fred Bloggs wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: Fred Bloggs wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:02:38 -0400, Fred Bloggs wrote: Fred, Why don't you move to France where you'll fit right in ?:-) I think I will, I would enjoy living in France, at least there's some semblance of culture there. Be careful! A lot of that 'culture' is resistant to all known antibiotics. On second thought: Enjoy yourself, while you last. French medical science rivals the world, to this day they continue to make great breakthroughs. Louis Pasteur is the Isaac Newton of modern microbiology, a great genius. What has he done lately, other than continue to decompose? He's been dead over 100 years: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Pasteur so his work isn't cutting edge. Though it will be, when it reaches the UK. |
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