The aftermath of the last Muslim-inspired bombing of the London Underground was
well visually documented by photos taken by travelelrs with their mobile
phones...

Here's a new phenomenon. UFOs !

" A crowd of 100 stunned stargazers brought a town centre to a standstill when
five mysterious UFOs were spotted hovering in the sky.

Drinkers spilled out of pubs, motorists stopped to gawp and camera phones were
aimed upwards as the five orbs, in a seeming formation, hovered above
Stratford-Upon-Avon for half an hour. "

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770



Graham

Eeyore wrote:

" A crowd of 100 stunned stargazers brought a town centre to a standstill when
five mysterious UFOs were spotted hovering in the sky.

They're not UFO's. They're the new prototype experimental
super-duper-ultra-bright LEDS that will hit the market next season.

Either that, or they're one of those Chinese fake Nokia exploding phone
batteries flying through the air.

Or one of the infamous Sony laptop LiIon batteries. After burning someone's
crotch of course... (chuckle)

Ok, I'll behave, but at least I'm on topic.
--
Linux Registered User # 302622
http://counter.li.org

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:16:52 +0100, Eeyore
wrote:

The aftermath of the last Muslim-inspired bombing of the London Underground was
well visually documented by photos taken by travelelrs with their mobile
phones...

Here's a new phenomenon. UFOs !

" A crowd of 100 stunned stargazers brought a town centre to a standstill when
five mysterious UFOs were spotted hovering in the sky.

Drinkers spilled out of pubs, motorists stopped to gawp and camera phones were
aimed upwards as the five orbs, in a seeming formation, hovered above
Stratford-Upon-Avon for half an hour. "

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770



Graham

I wonder if this is some satellite thingy - NASA have recently (last
month or so) been playing with docking and un-docking some satellites
to test for manouverability of robot spacecraft:

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2...htm?list186590

and of course this is just what they can tell us about - who knows
what secret/military/chinese things are going on. The whole episode of
them flying in formation and a fifth closing and slowing into the
formation sounds like it fits... I wonder how "hovering" they were as
satellites (at least the ones generally visible as naked-eye objects)
move very rapidly. It does mention that they passed off beyond the
horizon, which again fits sateelite observations - at least for those
that don't "wink out"

It does mention " a few minutes" and "half an hour" which, if
true/accurate might tend to rule out satellites as anything close
enough to be a NEO tends to have to move very quickly to stay up
there. there must be better informed minds than mine can comment on
this - anyone?

'tis interesting tho'

feebo wrote:

I wonder if this is some satellite thingy

Hello ?

Since when were satellites readily visible on a cellphone camera ?

See the video here....
mms://a229.v26674c.c26674.g.vm.akamaistream.net/5/229/26674/46a70995/1a1a1a9b086f9d0162cb37b01d7ee75381e45381f66190066f d338a7d60838689fce38ad1992c2f9/ufo250707.wmv



Graham

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:59:46 +0100, Eeyore
wrote:



feebo wrote:

I wonder if this is some satellite thingy

Hello ?

so what is your take then?


Since when were satellites readily visible on a cellphone camera ?

See the video here....
mms://a229.v26674c.c26674.g.vm.akamaistream.net/5/229/26674/46a70995/1a1a1a9b086f9d0162cb37b01d7ee75381e45381f66190066f d338a7d60838689fce38ad1992c2f9/ufo250707.wmv



Graham

I have seen satellites that were very much brighter than any star,
and tho' I had no direct comparison, I would estimate they would rate
with Venus or Jupiter - one memorable instance moved across the sky
very rapidly, gave a very intense flash (~2 secs) as the sun reflected
directly of it at just the right angle and (typically) winked out of
view (no it wasn't a meteor - I *can* tell the difference).

Anyway, it depends on the camera and the brightness of the object(s)

I will experiment with my w800 in low light mode with stars/planets -
if we actually get a cloud-free fscking night (

That vid definately puts the initial reports in a different light...
these must be new definitions of hurtling/shooting/fizzing across the
sky that I had previously been unaware of )

Certainly ain't signing up to the little green man answer just yet.

The lantern thingy.... hmm... I have a buddhist temple quite near me
and at certain times of the year they let off little square "ballons"
with a candle-type thingy burning in them. They are quite odd to see a
few of those go drifting over at dusk. I wonder what these "lanterns"
at the rugby club were. If not designed to float in the air, I doubt
they would. The written report about them moving fast it quite
appocraphal having seen the vid.

feebo wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
feebo wrote:

I wonder if this is some satellite thingy

Hello ?

so what is your take then?

What's the subtended angle of a satellite ? Do you understand what I mean ?

And why would a satellite move around in the sky ?

Graham

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:40:41 +0100, Eeyore
wrote:



feebo wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
feebo wrote:

I wonder if this is some satellite thingy

Hello ?

so what is your take then?

What's the subtended angle of a satellite ? Do you understand what I mean ?

And why would a satellite move around in the sky ?

Graham

did you actually read read the link I posted earlier?

answer the question: what is your take?

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:17:31 +0100, feebo wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:59:46 +0100, Eeyore
wrote:



feebo wrote:

I wonder if this is some satellite thingy

Hello ?

so what is your take then?


Since when were satellites readily visible on a cellphone camera ?

See the video here....
mms://a229.v26674c.c26674.g.vm.akamaistream.net/5/229/26674/46a70995/1a1a1a9b086f9d0162cb37b01d7ee75381e45381f66190066f d338a7d60838689fce38ad1992c2f9/ufo250707.wmv



Graham

I have seen satellites that were very much brighter than any star,

You are full of ****. Even the great Pyramid is not easily visible from
space, and when it is found and gazed upon, the feature size is quite
small, so a satellite is NOT going to make a reflection, nor generated
light spot that would compete with any star, much less the brightest
stars. D'OH!

and tho' I had no direct comparison,

You also had nothing to back your claim that that was what you were
looking at.

I would estimate they would rate
with Venus or Jupiter - one memorable instance moved across the sky
very rapidly, gave a very intense flash (~2 secs) as the sun reflected
directly of it at just the right angle and (typically) winked out of
view (no it wasn't a meteor - I *can* tell the difference).

If it was an orbiting object, the flash or reflection you observed
would not be "brighter than any star".

Anyway, it depends on the camera and the brightness of the object(s)

No ****?

I will experiment with my w800 in low light mode with stars/planets -
if we actually get a cloud-free fscking night (


Be sure to have enough brains to put it on a tripod.


That vid definately

"Definately" is definitely not even a word.

puts the initial reports in a different light...

Your claims are dubious, at best.

these must be new definitions of hurtling/shooting/fizzing across the
sky that I had previously been unaware of )

Do you remember ever having been administered shock therapy treatments?

Spurious Response wrote:

You are full of ****. Even the great Pyramid is not easily visible from
space, and when it is found and gazed upon, the feature size is quite
small, so a satellite is NOT going to make a reflection, nor generated
light spot that would compete with any star, much less the brightest
stars. D'OH!


Its not? Then tell us what is this:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Giza,+Egypt+pyramid&sll= 30.076292,31.208903&sspn=0.107401,0.159645&ie=UTF8 &ll=29.9791,31.134846&spn=0.013438,0.019956&t=h&z= 16&om=1

It sure looks like the Great Pyramid at Giza, Egypt as seen from
space.


--
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prove it.
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Central Florida

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:31:37 -0700, Spurious Response
wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:17:31 +0100, feebo wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:59:46 +0100, Eeyore
wrote:



feebo wrote:

I wonder if this is some satellite thingy

Hello ?

so what is your take then?


Since when were satellites readily visible on a cellphone camera ?

See the video here....
mms://a229.v26674c.c26674.g.vm.akamaistream.net/5/229/26674/46a70995/1a1a1a9b086f9d0162cb37b01d7ee75381e45381f66190066f d338a7d60838689fce38ad1992c2f9/ufo250707.wmv



Graham

I have seen satellites that were very much brighter than any star,

You are full of ****. Even the great Pyramid is not easily visible from
space, and when it is found and gazed upon, the feature size is quite
small, so a satellite is NOT going to make a reflection, nor generated
light spot that would compete with any star, much less the brightest
stars. D'OH!


and tho' I had no direct comparison,

You also had nothing to back your claim that that was what you were
looking at.

I would estimate they would rate
with Venus or Jupiter - one memorable instance moved across the sky
very rapidly, gave a very intense flash (~2 secs) as the sun reflected
directly of it at just the right angle and (typically) winked out of
view (no it wasn't a meteor - I *can* tell the difference).

If it was an orbiting object, the flash or reflection you observed
would not be "brighter than any star".

Anyway, it depends on the camera and the brightness of the object(s)

No ****?

I will experiment with my w800 in low light mode with stars/planets -
if we actually get a cloud-free fscking night (


Be sure to have enough brains to put it on a tripod.


That vid definately

"Definately" is definitely not even a word.

puts the initial reports in a different light...

Your claims are dubious, at best.

these must be new definitions of hurtling/shooting/fizzing across the
sky that I had previously been unaware of )

Do you remember ever having been administered shock therapy treatments?

heh - see you have dropped your habit of multiple replies... I ain't
fooled.

too many thing Toi, my brow is furrowed like a ploughed field... just
two points:

1. W800 is a mobile phone and thus provides ***absolutely*** a direct
comparison with the vid (I'll give you a moment while you fire up
google)

2. There is no point getting into a yes I do/no you don't situation as
you have amply demonstrated that bull**** can be supplimented with
search engines and then you can "appear" to be an expert. So I don't
bother purely coz it has nor meaning and makes no point.

I really thought over the last month or two that you had learned from
your whipping at the hands of soooooo many... the essay was right
after all. Shame.

Eeyore wrote:

feebo wrote:

I wonder if this is some satellite thingy

Hello ?

Since when were satellites readily visible on a cellphone camera ?

Try using one with a built-in flash. ;-)

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On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:35:05 +0100, feebo wrote:

I wonder if this is some satellite thingy - NASA have recently (last
month or so) been playing with docking and un-docking some satellites
to test for manouverability of robot spacecraft:


You could take one of those car lot spot lights up into space to the
space station, and the spot size it would make would be like a pinhead.
Those are far closer the Earth than any orbiting object. D'OH!

Spurious Response wrote:

feebo wrote:

I wonder if this is some satellite thingy - NASA have recently (last
month or so) been playing with docking and un-docking some satellites
to test for manouverability of robot spacecraft:

You could take one of those car lot spot lights up into space to the
space station, and the spot size it would make would be like a pinhead.
Those are far closer the Earth than any orbiting object. D'OH!

Do you have an opinion on what they could be ?

Graham

"Eeyore" wrote in message
...


Spurious Response wrote:

feebo wrote:

I wonder if this is some satellite thingy - NASA have recently (last
month or so) been playing with docking and un-docking some satellites
to test for manouverability of robot spacecraft:

You could take one of those car lot spot lights up into space to the
space station, and the spot size it would make would be like a pinhead.
Those are far closer the Earth than any orbiting object. D'OH!

Do you have an opinion on what they could be ?

Graham



Just a wild guess - maybe the marking lights on a Blimp going over?

Radiosrfun wrote:

"Eeyore" wrote
Spurious Response
feebo wrote:

I wonder if this is some satellite thingy - NASA have recently (last
month or so) been playing with docking and un-docking some satellites
to test for manouverability of robot spacecraft:

You could take one of those car lot spot lights up into space to the
space station, and the spot size it would make would be like a pinhead.
Those are far closer the Earth than any orbiting object. D'OH!

Do you have an opinion on what they could be ?

Just a wild guess - maybe the marking lights on a Blimp going over?

It was stationary (not 'going over') and silent (no engines) though. I'd expect
a blimp's gondola to be visible too. Plus, aircraft are required to have
flashing lights, not ones that are continuously illuminated.


Graham

Radiosrfun wrote:

"Eeyore" wrote
Spurious Response wrote:
feebo wrote:

I wonder if this is some satellite thingy - NASA have recently (last
month or so) been playing with docking and un-docking some satellites
to test for manouverability of robot spacecraft:

You could take one of those car lot spot lights up into space to the
space station, and the spot size it would make would be like a pinhead.
Those are far closer the Earth than any orbiting object. D'OH!

Do you have an opinion on what they could be ?

Just a wild guess - maybe the marking lights on a Blimp going over?

The grouping of 4 of the lights reminds me very much of the Belgian UFO
sightings.....

Wavre, Belgium
30 March 1990

Around 11:00 p.m. the local police began receiving numbers of telephone calls
reporting lights in a triangular formation over Wavre, twelve miles south of
Brussels. The police in turn reported the sightings to the radar station at
Glons. Glons radar confirmed the sightings of a UFO on radar at an altitude of
3,000 meters. The radar station at Semmerzake verified the Glons tracking and
reported it to the Air Force. The radar trackings were compared to the 11/89
trackings at Eupen and were found to be identical. Police witnesses reported
that, instead of the unidentifieds being three objects flying in formation, it
was one triangular-shaped object with three lights, as had been the Eupen
object.

Because of the large number of reports, Colonel Wilfried De Brouwer of the
Belgian Air Force decided to scramble two F-16 interceptors from Bevokom. The
F-16s were vectored in by Glons radar, and they soon detected a positive
oval-shaped object on their on-board radar at 3,000 meters.. They could see
nothing visually.

When the F-16 pilots attempted to lock on to the object with their on-board
radar, it reacted immediately. It changed shape on their radar to a diamond
shape, increased its speed to 1,000 km/hour, and took swift evasive action.
Tapes of the on-board radar of the F-16s show that the object descended from
3,000 meters to 1200 meters in 2 seconds. That's a speed of 1800 km/hour. The
tapes also show the object accelerating from 280 km/hour to 1800 km/hour in a
few seconds. This represents an acceleration of 46 G, which is more than a human
body could withstand. It is notable that at no time was there a sonic boom.

The object moved erratically, in a zig-zag path, over the city of Brussels,
taking evasive action whenever the pursuing F-16 tried to lock-on. Eventually,
it left the F-16s behind, disappearing at an impossible rate of speed.

These objects were seen by thousands of witnesses, many of whom gave signed
statements to the police. They were photographed and filmed. The objects were
tracked by ground radar at several different installations, and also by the
on-board radar of the F-16s. The objects took evasive action when threatened by
the F-16s and were able to maneuver at speeds that are impossible for any known
aircraft.

http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc413.htm

Graham

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:35:38 -0400, "Radiosrfun"
wrote:

"Eeyore" wrote in message
...


Spurious Response wrote:

feebo wrote:

I wonder if this is some satellite thingy - NASA have recently (last
month or so) been playing with docking and un-docking some satellites
to test for manouverability of robot spacecraft:

You could take one of those car lot spot lights up into space to the
space station, and the spot size it would make would be like a pinhead.
Those are far closer the Earth than any orbiting object. D'OH!

Do you have an opinion on what they could be ?

Graham



Just a wild guess - maybe the marking lights on a Blimp going over?


Does anyone remember that april fools stunt when cap'n beardy brought
the M25 to a standstill with his "UFO shaped" HAB with all lights and
stuff... top gag. I saw some kids doing this stuff in the desert in
new mexico or somewhere where they would stand on a rock with a "UFO
hat" with all lights and stuff... cars would stop and suddenly speed
off - LOL!

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:16:52 +0100, Eeyore
wrote:

The aftermath of the last Muslim-inspired bombing of the London Underground was
well visually documented by photos taken by travelelrs with their mobile
phones...

Here's a new phenomenon. UFOs !

" A crowd of 100 stunned stargazers brought a town centre to a standstill when
five mysterious UFOs were spotted hovering in the sky.

Drinkers spilled out of pubs, motorists stopped to gawp and camera phones were
aimed upwards as the five orbs, in a seeming formation, hovered above
Stratford-Upon-Avon for half an hour. "

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770



Graham
Blame it on global warming!