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I need to replace a Yale lock in my patio doors but I do not have the key. The dorr is currently locked. I have reoved the lock surrounds in the hope there would be a lock number which would enable me to order anew key but I can't see a number .. Is it possable to get a new key without having the old one? How do I replace the lock without having the original key????? Cheers |
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wrote: I need to replace a Yale lock in my patio doors but I do not have the key. Do you mean a Euro? The dorr is currently locked. With the standard night latch Yale you can still open the door from the inside and remove the lock. Then just buy a new barrel and keys. But I'd guess it's a Euro on patio doors if they're the PVC sliding type. -- *The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Yep I think it is euro
Am I going to have to drill it out? "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article . com, wrote: I need to replace a Yale lock in my patio doors but I do not have the key. Do you mean a Euro? The dorr is currently locked. With the standard night latch Yale you can still open the door from the inside and remove the lock. Then just buy a new barrel and keys. But I'd guess it's a Euro on patio doors if they're the PVC sliding type. -- *The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 13:14:38 UTC, "KinRsole"
wrote: Yep I think it is euro Am I going to have to drill it out? http://www.lockpicks.co.uk/newpage7.htm -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by Avenue Supplies, http://avenuesupplies.co.uk |
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 13:14:38 GMT, "KinRsole"
wrote: Yep I think it is euro Am I going to have to drill it out? I'd first spend a fair bit of time trying to pick it as unless you drill it correctly,you might create a lot more mess/expense for yourself. Remove antispam and add 670 after bra to email |
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tarquinlinbin wrote:
I'd first spend a fair bit of time trying to pick it as unless you drill it correctly,you might create a lot more mess/expense for yourself. Picking a lock is nothing like as easy as the films would have you believe. I know a few escapologists and picking locks is a last resort with them. -- Dave The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk 01634 717930 07850 597257 |
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KinRsole wrote: Yep I think it is euro Am I going to have to drill it out? I'd first ask a locksmith how much to open it. -- *If you try to fail and succeed, which have you done? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Bob Eager" wrote in message ... On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 13:14:38 UTC, "KinRsole" wrote: Yep I think it is euro Am I going to have to drill it out? http://www.lockpicks.co.uk/newpage7.htm -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by Avenue Supplies, http://avenuesupplies.co.uk Bought a set last year, so far haven't managed to open anything :-) but they are a good conversation piece, i.e. do you know what these are? However I have drilled out a couple of yale locks when keys were lost... but not had to try any euro locks yet! Peter |
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Peter Andrews wrote:
Bought a set last year, so far haven't managed to open anything :-) but they are a good conversation piece, i.e. do you know what these are? You sure they sent the English type. ;-) -- Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite |
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from "Dave Plowman (News)" contains these words: Am I going to have to drill it out? I'd first ask a locksmith how much to open it. I had to drill a Euro out a couple of years ago. Took about twenty minutes and a bit of swearing. Luckily it wasn't one of the sort with anti-drill devices! -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
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Guy King writes: The message from "Dave Plowman (News)" contains these words: Am I going to have to drill it out? I'd first ask a locksmith how much to open it. I had to drill a Euro out a couple of years ago. Took about twenty minutes and a bit of swearing. Luckily it wasn't one of the sort with anti-drill devices! Providing he has access to the inside of the door, it will take a locksmith about 5 seconds to remove a locked eurolock. -- Andrew Gabriel |
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The Medway Handyman wrote:
tarquinlinbin wrote: I'd first spend a fair bit of time trying to pick it as unless you drill it correctly,you might create a lot more mess/expense for yourself. Picking a lock is nothing like as easy as the films would have you believe. I know a few escapologists and picking locks ....what exotic aquaintances. I think an escapolgist would carefully select his lock "here's one I prepared earlier" with more than half the levers missing. john2 |
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Peter Andrews wrote:
Bought a set last year .... they are a good conversation piece What, conversations like "I'm arresting you under section 25 of the theft act for going equipped to steal, cheat or burgle"? |
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 16:56:15 GMT, Peter Andrews wrote:
Bought a set last year, so far haven't managed to open anything :-) but they are a good conversation piece, i.e. do you know what these are? I really liked this, should make people remember you! http://www.emergentchaos.com/archive...ck_busine.html Steve |
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Gabriel writes In article , Guy King writes: The message from "Dave Plowman (News)" contains these words: Am I going to have to drill it out? I'd first ask a locksmith how much to open it. I had to drill a Euro out a couple of years ago. Took about twenty minutes and a bit of swearing. Luckily it wasn't one of the sort with anti-drill devices! Providing he has access to the inside of the door, it will take a locksmith about 5 seconds to remove a locked eurolock. How is a euro less secure from the inside? Assuming it is a double cylinder. -- fred Plusnet - I hope you like vanilla |
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john2 wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote: Picking a lock is nothing like as easy as the films would have you believe. I know a few escapologists and picking locks ...what exotic aquaintances. I think an escapolgist would carefully select his lock "here's one I prepared earlier" with more than half the levers missing. Not 'exotic' if you have been a semi professional magician for the past 15 years. Most of my friends are ever so slightly weird and that's the way I like it! -- Dave The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk 01634 717930 07850 597257 |
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Andy Burns wrote:
Bob Eager wrote: http://www.lockpicks.co.uk/newpage7.htm Is a mis-spent youth included? I wish I'd had some of those, instead of bent needles and so on. |
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tarquinlinbin wrote:
"KinRsole" wrote: Yep I think it is euro Am I going to have to drill it out? I'd first spend a fair bit of time trying to pick it as unless you drill it correctly,you might create a lot more mess/expense for yourself. You could always get a locksmith to come around in his "spare" time, i.e. non-emergency. Does it have any anti-drill features, I wonder? |
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The Medway Handyman wrote:
tarquinlinbin wrote: I'd first spend a fair bit of time trying to pick it as unless you drill it correctly,you might create a lot more mess/expense for yourself. Picking a lock is nothing like as easy as the films would have you believe. I know a few escapologists and picking locks is a last resort with them. Its a funny subject is lockpicking, theres probably more myth than truth written about it. I'm not an expert at it but have picked a number of them, all quite legally. Honest. I dont follow the usual published advice, which seems more bragado than anything, as it takes some skill to use with any serious success rate, and there are easier ways. These are less glamorous, and no-one would make any money or ego-boosting out of telling people how.. The simplest foolproof way to open a euro is to drill it. A 5mm bit should open it in a minute or so. Its also worth trying any and all keys youve got, you might get lucky. I doubt its worth buying a picking set, not unless you want to take a significant interest in the subject. NT |
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Hope that helps, Dave H. (The engineer formerly known as Homeless) wrote in message ups.com... Hi I need to replace a Yale lock in my patio doors but I do not have the key. The dorr is currently locked. I have reoved the lock surrounds in the hope there would be a lock number which would enable me to order anew key but I can't see a number . Is it possable to get a new key without having the old one? How do I replace the lock without having the original key????? Cheers |
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wrote in message ups.com... Hi I need to replace a Yale lock in my patio doors but I do not have the key. The dorr is currently locked. I have reoved the lock surrounds in the hope there would be a lock number which would enable me to order anew key but I can't see a number . Is it possable to get a new key without having the old one? How do I replace the lock without having the original key????? Cheers easy to drill if you know what you are doing, could have some hardened pins but I doubt it. As someone suggested drilling a bloody great hole can only make it worse. There is another very quick but drastic way but you still need a wee bit know how. |
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and the other way is??
"Scabbydug" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... Hi I need to replace a Yale lock in my patio doors but I do not have the key. The dorr is currently locked. I have reoved the lock surrounds in the hope there would be a lock number which would enable me to order anew key but I can't see a number . Is it possable to get a new key without having the old one? How do I replace the lock without having the original key????? Cheers easy to drill if you know what you are doing, could have some hardened pins but I doubt it. As someone suggested drilling a bloody great hole can only make it worse. There is another very quick but drastic way but you still need a wee bit know how. |
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How do I replace the lock without having the original key?????
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Guy King wrote:
The message .com from contains these words: The simplest foolproof way to open a euro is to drill it. A 5mm bit should open it in a minute or so. Not the clever sort with rolling bits and inset ballbearings etc. and hardened mushroom pins etc - but most dont have those features. NT |
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KinRsole wrote:
and the other way is?? no-one really wants to say. If we do, there are more people that can break in to our houses. And then prosecute us when we boot them out. NT |
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On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 16:26:22 +0100, "Scabbydug"
wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Hi I need to replace a Yale lock in my patio doors but I do not have the key. The dorr is currently locked. I have reoved the lock surrounds in the hope there would be a lock number which would enable me to order anew key but I can't see a number . Is it possable to get a new key without having the old one? How do I replace the lock without having the original key????? Cheers easy to drill if you know what you are doing, could have some hardened pins but I doubt it. As someone suggested drilling a bloody great hole can only make it worse. There is another very quick but drastic way but you still need a wee bit know how. Isn't snapping them with a mole wrench the lattest thing? |
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