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Old October 28th 09, 05:32 PM posted to alt.home.repair
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Default Rug Backing on Bath Floor

I currently need to get a bath painted and freshened that had the bath rugs
stuck to the floor. The backing has come off crumbly and remained on the
linoleum (sp?). I might believe the folks who have used it for the last year
when they say that the toilet tank kept sweating and getting the rugs wet as
there is a grayed area under the tank and along the sides up to the rug...
but there is absolutely *no* smell that would indicate it is anything but
water.

It puzzles me, actually, that the rest of the room seems very well kept but
they do not pick up the runner, though... maybe they used something to clean
that made it stick and don't want to take the blame and it's easier to say
it's the toidy and not their fault? I do know that this tank had some
sweating a few summers back but my understanding is that is was not
critical. Maybe they leave the regular mat while they are still dripping wet
and leave the room a soggy mess?

I guess I'm saying I feel sure it's not whiz and likely water but leaving
the door open that it may be a cleaner or something. At any rate, here are
my questions:


1. How can I remove the backing without destroying the linoleum under it,
not knowing what stuck it there? That flooring is only about 10 years old
and needs to go (and should have gone) another 10.

2. If I can save that strip... how can I get the gray out of the flooring
under the tank?

3. Outside of plumbing in a hot line to the cold supply, are there any ways
to stop the sweat? (This is well water from a deep well if that affects the
temp any).



Thanks


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Old October 28th 09, 06:27 PM posted to alt.home.repair
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Default Rug Backing on Bath Floor

rdoc wrote:
I currently need to get a bath painted and freshened that had the bath rugs
stuck to the floor. The backing has come off crumbly and remained on the
linoleum (sp?). I might believe the folks who have used it for the last year
when they say that the toilet tank kept sweating and getting the rugs wet as
there is a grayed area under the tank and along the sides up to the rug...
but there is absolutely *no* smell that would indicate it is anything but
water.

It puzzles me, actually, that the rest of the room seems very well kept but
they do not pick up the runner, though... maybe they used something to clean
that made it stick and don't want to take the blame and it's easier to say
it's the toidy and not their fault? I do know that this tank had some
sweating a few summers back but my understanding is that is was not
critical. Maybe they leave the regular mat while they are still dripping wet
and leave the room a soggy mess?

I guess I'm saying I feel sure it's not whiz and likely water but leaving
the door open that it may be a cleaner or something. At any rate, here are
my questions:


1. How can I remove the backing without destroying the linoleum under it,
not knowing what stuck it there? That flooring is only about 10 years old
and needs to go (and should have gone) another 10.

2. If I can save that strip... how can I get the gray out of the flooring
under the tank?

3. Outside of plumbing in a hot line to the cold supply, are there any ways
to stop the sweat? (This is well water from a deep well if that affects the
temp any).



Thanks


Probably don't have god news for you but you could try mineral spirits
to remove the stuck backing. Should not harm the flooring but might
break the bond between it and the pad. Make sure to have good
ventilation while doing this. The gray under the tank is probably
mold/mildew transferring through the back of the vinyl from being
constantly damp. Only way to fix is to replace flooring after stopping
the sweating. No good ideas on how to stop sweating.
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Old October 28th 09, 06:42 PM posted to alt.home.repair
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Default Rug Backing on Bath Floor


"rmorton" wrote in message
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rdoc wrote:
I currently need to get a bath painted and freshened that had the bath
rugs stuck to the floor. The backing has come off crumbly and remained on
the linoleum (sp?). I might believe the folks who have used it for the
last year when they say that the toilet tank kept sweating and getting
the rugs wet as there is a grayed area under the tank and along the sides
up to the rug... but there is absolutely *no* smell that would indicate
it is anything but water.

It puzzles me, actually, that the rest of the room seems very well kept
but they do not pick up the runner, though... maybe they used something
to clean that made it stick and don't want to take the blame and it's
easier to say it's the toidy and not their fault? I do know that this
tank had some sweating a few summers back but my understanding is that is
was not critical. Maybe they leave the regular mat while they are still
dripping wet and leave the room a soggy mess?

I guess I'm saying I feel sure it's not whiz and likely water but leaving
the door open that it may be a cleaner or something. At any rate, here
are my questions:


1. How can I remove the backing without destroying the linoleum under it,
not knowing what stuck it there? That flooring is only about 10 years old
and needs to go (and should have gone) another 10.

2. If I can save that strip... how can I get the gray out of the flooring
under the tank?

3. Outside of plumbing in a hot line to the cold supply, are there any
ways to stop the sweat? (This is well water from a deep well if that
affects the temp any).



Thanks

Probably don't have god news for you but you could try mineral spirits to
remove the stuck backing. Should not harm the flooring but might break the
bond between it and the pad. Make sure to have good ventilation while
doing this. The gray under the tank is probably mold/mildew transferring
through the back of the vinyl from being constantly damp. Only way to fix
is to replace flooring after stopping the sweating. No good ideas on how
to stop sweating.


i've had rubber backed mats get sticky as they age just through normal use.
they started sticking to things so they got tossed, so i have no idea how to
remove the residue. try mild things first and work up, as anything that may
also dissolved the rubber will also probably attack the linoleum.


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Old October 28th 09, 08:00 PM posted to alt.home.repair
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Default Rug Backing on Bath Floor

On Oct 28, 1:32*pm, "rdoc" wrote:
I currently need to get a bath painted and freshened that had the bath rugs
stuck to the floor. The backing has come off crumbly and remained on the
linoleum (sp?). I might believe the folks who have used it for the last year
when they say that the toilet tank kept sweating and getting the rugs wet as
there is a grayed area under the tank and along the sides up to the rug....
but there is absolutely *no* smell that would indicate it is anything but
water.

It puzzles me, actually, that the rest of the room seems very well kept but
they do not pick up the runner, though... maybe they used something to clean
that made it stick and don't want to take the blame and it's easier to say
it's the toidy and not their fault? I do know that this tank had some
sweating a few summers back but my understanding is that is was not
critical. Maybe they leave the regular mat while they are still dripping wet
and leave the room a soggy mess?

I guess I'm saying I feel sure it's not whiz and likely water but leaving
the door open that it may be a cleaner or something. At any rate, here are
my questions:

1. How can I remove the backing without destroying the linoleum under it,
not knowing what stuck it there? That flooring is only about 10 years old
and needs to go (and should have gone) another 10.

2. If I can save that strip... how can I get the gray out of the flooring
under the tank?

3. Outside of plumbing in a hot line to the cold supply, are there any ways
to stop the sweat? (This is well water from a deep well if that affects the
temp any).

Thanks


1 - Lighter Fluid (not the BBQ type, the type for "flint & wick"
lighters) and WD40 are both pretty good for dissolving adhesives
without harming most surfaces. Try it in a inconspicuous spot first.

2 - The grey floor? I'm thinking you might be out of luck if it's mold/
mildew. You might try a little bleach in a small area and see what
happens.

3 - A tempering valve would work the best. Here's a neat one:
http://searchwarp.com/swa413729.htm

Other than that, you could try insulating the tank:

http://www.ehow.com/how_117384_stop-toilet-tank.html
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Old October 29th 09, 03:28 AM posted to alt.home.repair
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Default Rug Backing on Bath Floor

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"rdoc" wrote:

I currently need to get a bath painted and freshened that had the bath rugs
stuck to the floor. The backing has come off crumbly and remained on the
linoleum (sp?). I might believe the folks who have used it for the last year
when they say that the toilet tank kept sweating and getting the rugs wet as
there is a grayed area under the tank and along the sides up to the rug...
but there is absolutely *no* smell that would indicate it is anything but
water.

It puzzles me, actually, that the rest of the room seems very well kept but
they do not pick up the runner, though... maybe they used something to clean
that made it stick and don't want to take the blame and it's easier to say
it's the toidy and not their fault? I do know that this tank had some
sweating a few summers back but my understanding is that is was not
critical. Maybe they leave the regular mat while they are still dripping wet
and leave the room a soggy mess?

I guess I'm saying I feel sure it's not whiz and likely water but leaving
the door open that it may be a cleaner or something. At any rate, here are
my questions:


1. How can I remove the backing without destroying the linoleum under it,
not knowing what stuck it there? That flooring is only about 10 years old
and needs to go (and should have gone) another 10.

2. If I can save that strip... how can I get the gray out of the flooring
under the tank?

3. Outside of plumbing in a hot line to the cold supply, are there any ways
to stop the sweat? (This is well water from a deep well if that affects the
temp any).



Thanks


My money's on the floor being toast. I had a tenant ruin a brand new
vinyl floor in the three years he was living, er, I mean, growing pot in
my house. In that case it was a water reservoir that supplied various
rooms via hoses. The small drips here and there kept the vinyl under the
tank constantly wet, and the resulting stain was not removable. Hey, you
got more life out of yours than I did out of mine.
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Old October 29th 09, 04:45 AM posted to alt.home.repair
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Default Rug Backing on Bath Floor

charlie wrote:

i've had rubber backed mats get sticky as they age just through
normal use. they started sticking to things so they got tossed, so i
have no idea how to remove the residue. try mild things first and
work up, as anything that may also dissolved the rubber will also
probably attack the linoleum.


Long ago I lived in an apartment where a clause in the lease specified no
bath mats with rubber backing as the rubber (or whatever it is) can leave
stains that are not coming off no matter what cleaner you use. We had
something similar happen with rubber feet on a kitchen table. I've also
seen foam shelf-liners stick to shelves and/or anything that was on them for
a long time like tools etc. So it seems the smart thing to do is avoid the
use of rubber or rubber-substitute materials in contact with floors unless
you're sure the material isn't going to stain or bond with the flooring.


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Old October 29th 09, 08:46 AM posted to alt.home.repair
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Default Rug Backing on Bath Floor

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:32:22 -0400, "rdoc" wrote:

I currently need to get a bath painted and freshened that had the bath rugs
stuck to the floor.


Your floor is probably vinyl. Never use rubber backed rugs on vinyl.
A chemical reaction results that usually yellows the vinyl.
 




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