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Bath Height Off Floor .
I am about to get a new bath but wanted to do the tiling,less the tile
immediately above the bath,before fitting the new bath . What's troubling me is the height of any new bath I buy .The one I have is about 540mm off the floor and is about it's maximum adjustment .Plumbworld specs say "adjustable between 480-540mm" . This company say all their baths are 570mm and when I phoned them they confirmed ( after he said that was bath top to waste bottom which I questioned) that this was off the floor .The tech drawing they have on the site does sugegst it is bath top to waste which is misleading . http://www.bathroomheaven.com/sp_bro...poonbill_baths Is there a standard height for standard rectangular baths .?? Maybe I'll just get the bath fitted first and be careful,very careful when tiling . Stuart |
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Stuart wrote:
I am about to get a new bath but wanted to do the tiling,less the tile immediately above the bath,before fitting the new bath . What's troubling me is the height of any new bath I buy .The one I have is about 540mm off the floor and is about it's maximum adjustment .Plumbworld specs say "adjustable between 480-540mm" . This company say all their baths are 570mm and when I phoned them they confirmed ( after he said that was bath top to waste bottom which I questioned) that this was off the floor .The tech drawing they have on the site does sugegst it is bath top to waste which is misleading . http://www.bathroomheaven.com/sp_bro...poonbill_baths Is there a standard height for standard rectangular baths .?? Maybe I'll just get the bath fitted first and be careful,very careful when tiling . Stuart don't fit the bath until you have measured the height of the bath panels ! been there, done that, had to remove a bath and refit it because of 10mm play in the panels. woman was not happy and I can't blame her, really. |
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On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:04:09 GMT, "." wrote:
Stuart wrote: I am about to get a new bath but wanted to do the tiling,less the tile immediately above the bath,before fitting the new bath . What's troubling me is the height of any new bath I buy .The one I have is about 540mm off the floor and is about it's maximum adjustment .Plumbworld specs say "adjustable between 480-540mm" . This company say all their baths are 570mm and when I phoned them they confirmed ( after he said that was bath top to waste bottom which I questioned) that this was off the floor .The tech drawing they have on the site does sugegst it is bath top to waste which is misleading . http://www.bathroomheaven.com/sp_bro...poonbill_baths Is there a standard height for standard rectangular baths .?? Maybe I'll just get the bath fitted first and be careful,very careful when tiling . Stuart don't fit the bath until you have measured the height of the bath panels ! been there, done that, had to remove a bath and refit it because of 10mm play in the panels. woman was not happy and I can't blame her, really. Yeah well the bath I have at present,as I said,is pretty much at it's upper limit and even then the long bath panel is a tight fit so if the bath was lower it would have meant reducing the panel height which I would think is tricky . |
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Stuart wrote: On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:04:09 GMT, "." wrote: Stuart wrote: I am about to get a new bath but wanted to do the tiling,less the tile immediately above the bath,before fitting the new bath . What's troubling me is the height of any new bath I buy .The one I have is about 540mm off the floor and is about it's maximum adjustment .Plumbworld specs say "adjustable between 480-540mm" . This company say all their baths are 570mm and when I phoned them they confirmed ( after he said that was bath top to waste bottom which I questioned) that this was off the floor .The tech drawing they have on the site does sugegst it is bath top to waste which is misleading . http://www.bathroomheaven.com/sp_bro...poonbill_baths Is there a standard height for standard rectangular baths .?? Maybe I'll just get the bath fitted first and be careful,very careful when tiling . Stuart don't fit the bath until you have measured the height of the bath panels ! been there, done that, had to remove a bath and refit it because of 10mm play in the panels. woman was not happy and I can't blame her, really. Yeah well the bath I have at present,as I said,is pretty much at it's upper limit and even then the long bath panel is a tight fit so if the bath was lower it would have meant reducing the panel height which I would think is tricky . I think the best bet is to choose the bath you want, work out the height of the side panel, positioning of waste fittings and other pipework, get it all fitted securely and THEN start tiling. It will be far easier to plan tile runs once everything is in place and you are better off tiling down onto the bath anyway. This will also avoid the potential scenario where you could end up with a little sliver of tile directly above the bath where you have used whole tiles from the ceiling and not planned (or not been able to plan) what size the last tile will be. I know you are probably worried about damaging the bath when tiling - but seriously, just be careful and protect the bath and you'll be fine. You are probably more likely to damage your beautiful new tiles when trying to manhandle the bath into place! Luke |
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Stuart wrote: Maybe I'll just get the bath fitted first and be careful,very careful when tiling . Stuart Or measure the bath (and panel) wehn you get it then tile before fitting it. |
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wrote: Stuart wrote: Maybe I'll just get the bath fitted first and be careful,very careful when tiling . Stuart Or measure the bath (and panel) wehn you get it then tile before fitting it. either way, I'd wait until the bath was in hand before making a decision :-) I see no advantage to tiling before fitting. |
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On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:38:57 GMT, "." wrote:
wrote: Stuart wrote: Maybe I'll just get the bath fitted first and be careful,very careful when tiling . Stuart Or measure the bath (and panel) wehn you get it then tile before fitting it. either way, I'd wait until the bath was in hand before making a decision :-) Yeah .I have decided at least to wait until the bath is delivered before working out the layout of the tiles and almost certainly get it fitted first before even starting the tiling . As someone said the worst case would be to tile it thinking you knew where the top of the bath was to be then discover the last tile was going to be a thing piece .That would not look good .The upper tile limit is adjustable so I'd prefer to have complete tiles from top to bottom . Thx for all the help Stuart . |
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On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:06:36 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
. wrote: wrote: Stuart wrote: Maybe I'll just get the bath fitted first and be careful,very careful when tiling . Stuart Or measure the bath (and panel) wehn you get it then tile before fitting it. either way, I'd wait until the bath was in hand before making a decision :-) I see no advantage to tiling before fitting. I think it's just a fear of damaging a brand spanking new bath by dropping something in to it when tiling . A load of old sheets etc ,etc and and cardboard on top plus taking care should be ok . |
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Stuart wrote:
On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:06:36 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: . wrote: wrote: Stuart wrote: Maybe I'll just get the bath fitted first and be careful,very careful when tiling . Stuart Or measure the bath (and panel) wehn you get it then tile before fitting it. either way, I'd wait until the bath was in hand before making a decision :-) I see no advantage to tiling before fitting. I think it's just a fear of damaging a brand spanking new bath by dropping something in to it when tiling . A load of old sheets etc ,etc and and cardboard on top plus taking care should be ok . and leave the plastic coating on it apart from where the plumbing is, until last. |
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Stuart wrote:
On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:38:57 GMT, "." wrote: wrote: Stuart wrote: Maybe I'll just get the bath fitted first and be careful,very careful when tiling . Stuart Or measure the bath (and panel) wehn you get it then tile before fitting it. either way, I'd wait until the bath was in hand before making a decision :-) Yeah .I have decided at least to wait until the bath is delivered before working out the layout of the tiles and almost certainly get it fitted first before even starting the tiling . As someone said the worst case would be to tile it thinking you knew where the top of the bath was to be then discover the last tile was going to be a thing piece .That would not look good .The upper tile limit is adjustable so I'd prefer to have complete tiles from top to bottom . Thx for all the help Stuart . If you're really worried you could fit the bath, mark off the height on the wall and then remove the bath to tile. Obviously you wouldn't want to actually plumb it in, but just get the placement right. |
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Bath Height Off Floor .
On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:52:52 +0100, Stuart
wrote: I am about to get a new bath but wanted to do the tiling,less the tile immediately above the bath,before fitting the new bath . What's troubling me is the height of any new bath I buy .The one I have is about 540mm off the floor and is about it's maximum adjustment .Plumbworld specs say "adjustable between 480-540mm" . This company say all their baths are 570mm and when I phoned them they confirmed ( after he said that was bath top to waste bottom which I questioned) that this was off the floor .The tech drawing they have on the site does sugegst it is bath top to waste which is misleading . http://www.bathroomheaven.com/sp_bro...poonbill_baths Is there a standard height for standard rectangular baths .?? Maybe I'll just get the bath fitted first and be careful,very careful when tiling . Stuart Check that bath panel before you do anything. Often bath panels are made oversize so that you can cut them down a bit even when the bath is at its limit of adjustment. There are other factors to consider i.e will the waste fit? does the waste pipe fall away and drain ok?. I am an advocate of marking up accurately the bath position then tiling first and fitting the bath last. I find it produces a better quality job. As with all jobs though,plan and measure meticulously and mark out accurately. Its ok to put wooden blocks under the bath legs rahter than have them at their fullest extend of adjustment ! Remove antispam and add 670 after bra to email |
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On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:06:36 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote: . wrote: wrote: Stuart wrote: Maybe I'll just get the bath fitted first and be careful,very careful when tiling . Stuart Or measure the bath (and panel) wehn you get it then tile before fitting it. either way, I'd wait until the bath was in hand before making a decision :-) I see no advantage to tiling before fitting. I can see two issues. you might damage the bath there might be a tendancy to use the fitted bath as a straight edge to tile too. This could cause other issues! I am an advocate of accurate measuring and marking out,fit bath last. Remove antispam and add 670 after bra to email |
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On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:31:00 +0100, Richard Conway
wrote: Stuart wrote: On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:38:57 GMT, "." wrote: wrote: Stuart wrote: Maybe I'll just get the bath fitted first and be careful,very careful when tiling . Stuart Or measure the bath (and panel) wehn you get it then tile before fitting it. either way, I'd wait until the bath was in hand before making a decision :-) Yeah .I have decided at least to wait until the bath is delivered before working out the layout of the tiles and almost certainly get it fitted first before even starting the tiling . As someone said the worst case would be to tile it thinking you knew where the top of the bath was to be then discover the last tile was going to be a thing piece .That would not look good .The upper tile limit is adjustable so I'd prefer to have complete tiles from top to bottom . Thx for all the help Stuart . If you're really worried you could fit the bath, mark off the height on the wall and then remove the bath to tile. Obviously you wouldn't want to actually plumb it in, but just get the placement right. This is what i do,get it in place,make sure it all works out,mark and measure with the greatest accuracy,remove bath,tile,permanently install bath. Remove antispam and add 670 after bra to email |
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tarquinlinbin wrote:
On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:06:36 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: . wrote: wrote: Stuart wrote: Maybe I'll just get the bath fitted first and be careful,very careful when tiling . Stuart Or measure the bath (and panel) wehn you get it then tile before fitting it. either way, I'd wait until the bath was in hand before making a decision :-) I see no advantage to tiling before fitting. I can see two issues. you might damage the bath there might be a tendancy to use the fitted bath as a straight edge to tile too. This could cause other issues! The bath should be straight. That's what spirit levels are for, IIRC. |
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