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It's Official, NYWS is No longer on HGTV
Just read on the NYWS website that it is official, HGTV did NOT
renew their contract to show the older NYWS episodes for the new season. Guess that leaves us at the mercy of the idiot fund raisers who run learning the piano or some "motivational speaker" over the NYWS scheduled shows begging for donations. Don't know about you, but if they would run a NYWS marathon during the pledge/fund raising they would get MORE money more often from this woodworker. Right now the local PBS has pre-empted the Sunday schedule for fundraising, causing folks to miss 2 of the new season episodes John |
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For $1.50 per month you can subscribe to the PBS National hookup (Channel
249) on DISH Satellite. They carry NYW with no fund raising. "John" wrote in message ... Just read on the NYWS website that it is official, HGTV did NOT renew their contract to show the older NYWS episodes for the new season. Guess that leaves us at the mercy of the idiot fund raisers who run learning the piano or some "motivational speaker" over the NYWS scheduled shows begging for donations. Don't know about you, but if they would run a NYWS marathon during the pledge/fund raising they would get MORE money more often from this woodworker. Right now the local PBS has pre-empted the Sunday schedule for fundraising, causing folks to miss 2 of the new season episodes John |
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"ole" wrote in message ... For $1.50 per month you can subscribe to the PBS National hookup (Channel 249) on DISH Satellite. They carry NYW with no fund raising. Except for those aggravating pieces of self-promotion they use to fill dead air. At least the latest, the "Red Riding Hood" series, have Norm in them. I still haven't figured out what message, beyond the obvious, they're trying to convey with the black female pilot endorsement. |
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For $1.50 per month you can subscribe to the PBS National hookup
(Channel 249) on DISH Satellite. They carry NYW with no fund raising. No you can't. I used to have this until the *******s at WGBH objected. I would much rather pay a fair price for commercial free TV than be forced to sit through bull**** fundraisers. Last week they had that git Suzie Orman going on about money like she was preaching a religious sermon. It may just be me but I find that sort of thing revolting and in any case the only people who are going to want to sit through that sort of thing are the type of people who are too tightfisted to donate anyhow. I don't care if PBS does not get paid for the programs sent out over satelite, they sure as heck could get paid. I have a PVR so I never watch the commercials on regular TV anyway, apart from the superbowl of course where in the average year the same technology allows one to effortlessly edit out the alleged game.This year being the first time in living memory that the game has not been effectively over in the first quarter we actually watched the game but you get the idea. |
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"ole" wrote in message ... For $1.50 per month you can subscribe to the PBS National hookup (Channel 249) on DISH Satellite. They carry NYW with no fund raising. Hi Ole, You cannot do this if your local station set has a PBS station in it. I used to have both the PBS stations here in Atlanta and the PBS National feed (One of the reasons I originally went with the plan I have on Dish Network. Then they said because I get PBS from a local source they were contractually obligated to shutdown our reception of the national feed. That sucks canal water, but there it is. Later, Beej |
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Get DirecTV, get the DIY channel, and get access to two regular shows that
are at least as good as NYWS: Woodwords with David Marks, and Woodworking with David Johnson. Also look at The Router Workshop on PBSU. You may even be able to give your nailer a rest. You just need a clear view of the soutwest sky(from my location in NC); the satellite is over the equator south of Texas. I don't work for DTV, just want to share good programming so enough people watch to keep them on the air. You can lookup information, including project directions and materials, on DIYnet.com. Steve "John" wrote in message ... Just read on the NYWS website that it is official, HGTV did NOT renew their contract to show the older NYWS episodes for the new season. Guess that leaves us at the mercy of the idiot fund raisers who run learning the piano or some "motivational speaker" over the NYWS scheduled shows begging for donations. Don't know about you, but if they would run a NYWS marathon during the pledge/fund raising they would get MORE money more often from this woodworker. Right now the local PBS has pre-empted the Sunday schedule for fundraising, causing folks to miss 2 of the new season episodes John |
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On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:15:58 +0000, Steven and Gail Peterson wrote:
Get DirecTV, get the DIY channel, and get access to two regular shows that are at least as good as NYWS: Woodwords with David Marks, and Woodworking with David Johnson. Don't get me started on Minwhacks (Bruce) Johnson. That guy shouldn't be allowed to carry Norm's toolbelt. I do like the woodturning show, though. But that's probably because I know next to nothing about turning. -- Joe Wells |
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I lost respect for bruce johnson when one of his shows was the assembly
of a rocking chair *kit*. Not one bit of woodworking was involved. He took completed parts out of a box, glued them together and threw on a finish. He routinely makes mistakes, which are magically fixed when they come back from the comercial break. Does he still call his sliding compound miter saw a radial arm saw? brian |
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brianlanning wrote:
I lost respect for bruce johnson when one of his shows was the assembly of a rocking chair *kit*. Not one bit of woodworking was involved. He took completed parts out of a box, glued them together and threw on a finish. He routinely makes mistakes, which are magically fixed when they come back from the comercial break. Does he still call his sliding compound miter saw a radial arm saw? I'd forgotten about the "radial arm saw". Yes, you know what? I watch him with the same fascination I reserved for Jim Bakker back in the days of the Pass The Loot Club. -- Mortimer Schnerd, RN VE |
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"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message ... I'd forgotten about the "radial arm saw". Yes, you know what? I watch him with the same fascination I reserved for Jim Bakker back in the days of the Pass The Loot Club. And, although I have no idea why, I haven't gotten around to deleting The Router Workshop from the auto-record guide. I find that show to be of *zero* value. |
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"brianlanning" wrote in message ups.com... k. Does he still call his sliding compound miter saw a radial arm saw? brian Probably, since all I have ever seen of his show are the reruns,reruns,reruns............. |
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"Steven and Gail Peterson" wrote in message nk.net... Get DirecTV, get the DIY channel, and get access to two regular shows that are at least as good as NYWS: Woodwords with David Marks, and Woodworking with David Johnson. Also look at The Router Workshop on PBSU. You may even be able to give your nailer a rest. I watch Bruce Johnson for comic relief. It's fun to count his mistakes, and sloppy workmanship. Marks, on the other hand, amazes me with his talent Ken Ken |
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Ken Johnsen wrote:
"Steven and Gail Peterson" wrote in message nk.net... Get DirecTV, get the DIY channel, and get access to two regular shows that are at least as good as NYWS: Woodwords with David Marks, and Woodworking with David Johnson. Also look at The Router Workshop on PBSU. You may even be able to give your nailer a rest. I watch Bruce Johnson for comic relief. It's fun to count his mistakes, and sloppy workmanship. Marks, on the other hand, amazes me with his talent Ken Ken LOL, yes Brucey certainly *is* sloppy, but at least he looks like he's having fun doing it... Marks is extremely talented (and his attention to detail is outstanding), but his acting needs a bit of improvement! |
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"John" wrote in message
... Just read on the NYWS website that it is official, HGTV did NOT renew their contract to show the older NYWS episodes for the new season. Guess that leaves us at the mercy of the idiot fund raisers Note also how difficult it is to find contact information on the HGTV site to let them know how displeased you are about it. There is not even a real email address to send comments to while they ask you everything down to year of birth in their "Viewer Services" page when you want to submit a comment. While I enjoy the show, Norm & company could make all of this moot by releasing each season in a DVD collection. They are really milking it for every penny by charging $25 for a single 30 minute program. An entire season for $100 would be fair. He could still sell the plans for $10 a piece. My guess is that he'd sell more DVD's than tapes this way. Cheers! Duke |
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"Dukester" wrote in message Note also how difficult it is to find contact information on the HGTV site to let them know how displeased you are about it. There is not even a real email address to send comments to while they ask you everything down to year of birth in their "Viewer Services" page when you want to submit a comment. I'm not overly upset because they are repeating the repeats that they repeated before. I'd like to see some of the newer shows. While I enjoy the show, Norm & company could make all of this moot by releasing each season in a DVD collection. They are really milking it for every penny by charging $25 for a single 30 minute program. An entire season for $100 would be fair. He could still sell the plans for $10 a piece. My guess is that he'd sell more DVD's than tapes this way. I have no qualms about the price of the plans. For the additional cost of the video, I'd like to see a few more details. They have the original tapes, why not add some of the raw footage? |
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I noticed this recently as well. I use a tv capture card on my PC to record
the shows, and for the last 2 weeks (including 2 weeks going forward that they let you search) when i search for "new yankee" I get zero hits. I'm in southeastern CT - and have a PBS station, but they only made it through the first 2 or 3 new episodes this year (as far as I know) before preempting them for fundraising. It really is pathetic. I've had 2 or 3 15 minute discussions with the CT PBS program manager expressing my displeasure to no avail. Even when I lived in Boston I dont' recall the shows being broadcast exactly when the NYWS website said they would be. As others have said, part of my disgust is with the NYWS itself for continuing to gouge people that want to buy their videos on a per episode basis. Getting digital video made into DVDs costs next to nothing on a per copy basis, so there is no justification for charging the ridiculous price they charge for a 30 minute show. But they have a captive audience and they don't seem to care about how many DVDs they sell - I've sent repeated messages to them inquiring about this with no responses at all. Oh well, life goes on, I've learned about as much from Norm as I can anyway. Mike "John" wrote in message ... Just read on the NYWS website that it is official, HGTV did NOT renew their contract to show the older NYWS episodes for the new season. Guess that leaves us at the mercy of the idiot fund raisers who run learning the piano or some "motivational speaker" over the NYWS scheduled shows begging for donations. Don't know about you, but if they would run a NYWS marathon during the pledge/fund raising they would get MORE money more often from this woodworker. Right now the local PBS has pre-empted the Sunday schedule for fundraising, causing folks to miss 2 of the new season episodes John |
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Yes...they have a reason to charge that much...
I assume you never noticed Tom's boat or Morash's beach home in Cape Cod ??? TOH has been very,very,very good to those boys. Mike in Mystic wrote: As others have said, part of my disgust is with the NYWS itself for continuing to gouge people that want to buy their videos on a per episode basis. Getting digital video made into DVDs costs next to nothing on a per copy basis, so there is no justification for charging the ridiculous price they charge for a 30 minute show. |
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hmmm
I always assumed that they made most of their money from charges they got for doing the TOH shows - I can't believe they just do it for nothing but materials, but maybe that's how it goes. But I'm sure Tom and the plumber and the gardening guy all have booming businesses that they do in addition to TOH and that was where I assumed they got their money. You saw that house that Dick, Tom's brother, had built after his burned down. Holy crap! And I never could figure out what he did, exactly. As for Morash - maybe he has a rich wife?? hehe But seriously, let's say they make $500K a year on NYW. Do you really think they sell 20,000 videos a year? Maybe they do, but it would seriously shock me. Mike Norm has his books - not sure how much money he makes, but probably enough. "Pat Barber" wrote in message ... Yes...they have a reason to charge that much... I assume you never noticed Tom's boat or Morash's beach home in Cape Cod ??? TOH has been very,very,very good to those boys. Mike in Mystic wrote: As others have said, part of my disgust is with the NYWS itself for continuing to gouge people that want to buy their videos on a per episode basis. Getting digital video made into DVDs costs next to nothing on a per copy basis, so there is no justification for charging the ridiculous price they charge for a 30 minute show. |
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I know "nothing" about tv production but I assume there
are ways for everybody including the boys to make money. WGBH produces TOH & NYW and I assume they get a major chunk. When I hear things like "the bathroom cost $30K", I assume old Richard has hit another home run. I gotta figure NYW is the "cheap" version to produce. I also assume that home building costs in the Boston area are beyond belief. Mike in Mystic wrote: hmmm I always assumed that they made most of their money from charges they got for doing the TOH shows - I can't believe they just do it for nothing but materials, but maybe that's how it goes. But I'm sure Tom and the plumber and the gardening guy all have booming businesses that they do in addition to TOH and that was where I assumed they got their money. You saw that house that Dick, Tom's brother, had built after his burned down. Holy crap! And I never could figure out what he did, exactly. As for Morash - maybe he has a rich wife?? hehe But seriously, let's say they make $500K a year on NYW. Do you really think they sell 20,000 videos a year? Maybe they do, but it would seriously shock me. Mike Norm has his books - not sure how much money he makes, but probably enough. "Pat Barber" wrote in message ... Yes...they have a reason to charge that much... I assume you never noticed Tom's boat or Morash's beach home in Cape Cod ??? TOH has been very,very,very good to those boys. Mike in Mystic wrote: As others have said, part of my disgust is with the NYWS itself for continuing to gouge people that want to buy their videos on a per episode basis. Getting digital video made into DVDs costs next to nothing on a per copy basis, so there is no justification for charging the ridiculous price they charge for a 30 minute show. |
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It never ceases to amaze me that people, especially in this newsgroup,
equate the cost of materials with the selling price of the finished product. The reason NYW videos cost what they do is that's how much people are willing to pay. How many of the people here who make and sell furniture would be outraged if customers expected their pieces to be priced at roughly the cost of the wood that went into them? As we all know, there's so much more that goes into them (cost of tools, cost of utilities, workshop rent, supplies other than lumber, hours of labor, and all the intangibles such as education, experience, artistic expression, craftsmanship, beauty). Anyone who charges more thanthe market will bear is probably not selling very much. Anyone who is charging less than fair market value is cheating himself. What surprises me about the NYW videos, and any TV show videos for that matter, is why people pay anything at all to buy them when all they have to do is throw a $2 blank tape into the VCR and record it themselves. Lee -- To e-mail, replace "bucketofspam" with "dleegordon" |
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