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stoutman
 
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Default Rousseau router plate in the trash

Couldnt line up the dam holes when drilling it out for my PC 7518. I
trashed it. Ooops. Think im gonna get a predrilled router table blate next
time.


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Jim Behning
 
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Did you use the install guide kit? The Bosch kit has 4 pointy srcews
you thread into the router base that you thump to make marks on the
plate. Think of it as a 4x center punch. the kit also comes with a
centering guide so your router ends up in the middle of the plate. If
you screw up you just try again. There should be enough space on the
plate to try 3 times.

"stoutman" wrote:

Couldnt line up the dam holes when drilling it out for my PC 7518. I
trashed it. Ooops. Think im gonna get a predrilled router table blate next
time.


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stoutman wrote:
Couldnt line up the dam holes when drilling it out for my PC 7518. I
trashed it. Ooops. Think im gonna get a predrilled router table blate next
time.



Dig that little puppy out of the trash and use it as a template to trim
a piece of 1/4" lexan you get from your local plastics remnant bin to
make a replacement.

Probably get enought lexan to make a couple of inserts for a few $.

BTW, 1/4" sheet plastic such as lexan is a great material for making jigs.


Lew

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Here's what I did to install my Hitachi M12V in my Rousseau plate.

On the lathe, I turned a stepped spindle. One end I turned exactly 1/2".
The other end I turned to match the smallest hole (ring) in the rousseau
plate (I forget what the diameter was). Chucked this little beauty in my
router, dropped the plate over it and that sucker wouldn't budge. While it
was clamped in place (to prevent slippage), I used a scribe to outline the
base of the router on the bottom of the baseplate. The M12V has one
straight edge on the base, which helped, but wasn't necessary to make this
method work. Then, unclamped everything and lined up the M12V subbase on
the scribed line, clamped in place and marked hole locations. Went to the
drill press, Bob's your uncle, and everything lined up perfectly. Hope this
helps for your next try.

Joe C.


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Couldnt line up the dam holes when drilling it out for my PC 7518. I
trashed it. Ooops. Think im gonna get a predrilled router table blate

next
time.




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Some us don't have lathes. We want one but don't have one...yet.



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Got mine as an 10th anniv gift from SWMBO. Love playing around on it (the
lathe), but sometimes wish that it was cheaper than, say, collecting
planes....


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Some us don't have lathes. We want one but don't have one...yet.



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Never Enough Money wrote:
Some us don't have lathes. We want one but don't have one...yet.


And your point is?

Lew
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Yes it is but I wouldn't make a router plate from it. It WILL sag.
"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
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BTW, 1/4" sheet plastic such as lexan is a great material for making jigs.


Lew



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On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 21:42:00 GMT, "stoutman" wrote:

Couldnt line up the dam holes when drilling it out for my PC 7518. I
trashed it. Ooops. Think im gonna get a predrilled router table blate next
time.


Send it to me. I love my Rousseaus. No reason not to have another one,
even though it's been defaced, reducing its sale value to zero.


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We need to come up with some good reason besides
plain ole' "turning" (for SWMBO's):

Like, let's see...

"It can be used to polish the
silver around holidays"

"If we need a salad bowl in a pinch..."

"Wood lamp? Sure honey...no problem...o"

I have nothing else. Need help. Want a lathe sitting
in my shop. Don't know why, just want one.


(Turning, turning, turning..."Rawhide" -
err...guess that's "rolling, rolling, rolling...)

Dating myself,

Lou


In article .com,
Never Enough Money wrote:

Some us don't have lathes. We want one but don't have one...yet.



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CW wrote:
Yes it is but I wouldn't make a router plate from it. It WILL sag.


HUH!

How big a plate are you making?

Something like a 10x12 with a typical PC type router certainly shouldn't
be a problem for a 1/4" thick piece of lexan.

Lew
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I pulled it from the trash and widened the holes so now they all line up. I
wanted to attach it to the side of my table saw so I made a practice router
table top. It turned out so good that it became my "actual" top. The only
complant I have against the rousseau is the difficulty in putting in the
hole reducer rings. Other than that it seems pretty good.



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Couldnt line up the dam holes when drilling it out for my PC 7518. I
trashed it. Ooops. Think im gonna get a predrilled router table blate
next time.



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"stoutman" wrote in message
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Couldnt line up the dam holes when drilling it out for my PC 7518. I
trashed it. Ooops. Think im gonna get a predrilled router table blate
next time.


Even if you'd gotten lined up, you might not have liked it anyway. I had
one. My DW618 came with a centering tool so it was a little easier getting
it lined up. But I never really liked the plate anyway. I hated the crown
in the plate. The inserts never seemed to be flat and they were a pain to
install. I gave away my old open stand table and built a new cabinet style.
This time I used a Woodpeckers cast aluminum. Its' predrilled and fits
perfectly. I just bought the extra twist lock set of insert. You can go
even smaller with a set of 1 3/6" inserts from Lee Valley, (I'll be getting
these later). One word describes this setup, Sweettttttt!. Do yourself a
favor and check out the Woodpeckers plates.

Darrell


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"stoutman" wrote in message
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I pulled it from the trash and widened the holes so now they all line up.
I wanted to attach it to the side of my table saw so I made a practice
router table top. It turned out so good that it became my "actual" top.
The only complant I have against the rousseau is the difficulty in putting
in the hole reducer rings.


One of the things, I really hated about this plate. The Woodpeckers is a
twistlock, very easy to get in and out.

Another thing I didn't like about the Rousseau was there was no means of
leveling. I talked to them and they sent me a leveling kit. But it looked
really flimsy. Gave the plate away with the table, but I actually still
have the leveling kit some where.

Darrell


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butch
 
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Sag is a concern - is 1/4" aluminum plate thick enough or should I go
to 3/8".

Also trying to figure out how to really anchor down an insert to reduce
the opening for larger bits - it maybe just as easy to build 2
different plates - one for large bits and the other for small.

Can't believe how pricey the sliding miter gauges are - paying $100+
for one of those is obscene - any suggestions?

thanks



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"loutent" wrote in message
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We need to come up with some good reason besides
plain ole' "turning" (for SWMBO's):


Why? My wife has asked a couple of time, "why don't you have a lathe?"


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On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 21:42:00 GMT, "stoutman" wrote:

Couldnt line up the dam holes when drilling it out for my PC 7518. I
trashed it. Ooops. Think im gonna get a predrilled router table blate next
time.


I did not have any problems with the Rousseau and I have the PC 7518.
I may have used a spring-loaded self centering awl used to center
hinge screws. I used a drill press to drill the holes. I'm sure you
can salvage the plate.

BTW, I made a frame jig made from 4 pieces of 1/2" thick ply. These
pieces are 8" longer and dadoed to make a nice sturdy frame. The
extra length does two things: makes dados rather than (weaker) half
lap joints, and provides plenty of clamping areas. The Rousseau
instructions say to use two "L"s as a router guide to cut the hole,
but the frame is much sturdier. I also made a test cut on some scrap
mdf before cutting into my trimmed laminated router table top which I
put several hours work.
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
nk.net...
CW wrote:
Yes it is but I wouldn't make a router plate from it. It WILL sag.


HUH!

How big a plate are you making?

Something like a 10x12 with a typical PC type router certainly shouldn't
be a problem for a 1/4" thick piece of lexan.



I have a Bench Dog router table and HAD a 3/8" thick Lexan plate and my
Triton made it sag enough that folded 20# paper could easily be slipped
under a straight edge in the middle. I had not suspected any sag until
tennons cut in 2 passes were coming out stepped. For about 2 years a large
Bosch had been hanging from the other side of the plate with no sag. Last
week I switched to a 3/8" thick phenolic plate.


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"butch" wrote in message
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Sag is a concern - is 1/4" aluminum plate thick enough or should I go
to 3/8".

Also trying to figure out how to really anchor down an insert to reduce
the opening for larger bits - it maybe just as easy to build 2
different plates - one for large bits and the other for small.


Or get one of these: http://www.woodpeck.com/aluminsert.html
Darrell


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Leon wrote:


I have a Bench Dog router table and HAD a 3/8" thick Lexan plate and my
Triton made it sag enough that folded 20# paper could easily be slipped
under a straight edge in the middle.


That is good skinny, I had no idea.

Thank you.

Lew




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Thanks - Woodpecker uses 3/8" aluminum plate - that is what I will use
and do it with 2 plates - hate to think what would happen to a bit if a
home made insert got into the bit - hear a big bang - not fun.

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You would be fine with 1/4" aluminum.

"butch" wrote in message
oups.com...
Sag is a concern - is 1/4" aluminum plate thick enough or should I go
to 3/8".

Also trying to figure out how to really anchor down an insert to reduce
the opening for larger bits - it maybe just as easy to build 2
different plates - one for large bits and the other for small.

Can't believe how pricey the sliding miter gauges are - paying $100+
for one of those is obscene - any suggestions?

thanks



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"butch" wrote in message
oups.com...
Sag is a concern - is 1/4" aluminum plate thick enough or should I go
to 3/8".



I have a PC 7539 hanging on a 1/4" plate with no sag. Darned router has got
to weigh near twenty pounds.
http://www.porter-cable.com/index.asp?e=547&p=2822
Greg


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I just have to warn you. Turning can be very addictive. I thought I
spent an hour turning, and 5 hours passed by. I probably spent too
much $ on my lathe, the accessories can quickly add up.

On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 20:33:44 -0500, loutent wrote:

We need to come up with some good reason besides
plain ole' "turning" (for SWMBO's):

Like, let's see...

"It can be used to polish the
silver around holidays"

"If we need a salad bowl in a pinch..."

"Wood lamp? Sure honey...no problem...o"

I have nothing else. Need help. Want a lathe sitting
in my shop. Don't know why, just want one.


(Turning, turning, turning..."Rawhide" -
err...guess that's "rolling, rolling, rolling...)

Dating myself,

Lou


In article .com,
Never Enough Money wrote:

Some us don't have lathes. We want one but don't have one...yet.


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Most of the time you won't be fussing with the rings, unless you like
to use those mammoth router bits. Glad to hear you rescued the plate.

On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 02:07:54 GMT, "stoutman" wrote:

I pulled it from the trash and widened the holes so now they all line up. I
wanted to attach it to the side of my table saw so I made a practice router
table top. It turned out so good that it became my "actual" top. The only
complant I have against the rousseau is the difficulty in putting in the
hole reducer rings. Other than that it seems pretty good.



"stoutman" wrote in message
. com...
Couldnt line up the dam holes when drilling it out for my PC 7518. I
trashed it. Ooops. Think im gonna get a predrilled router table blate
next time.





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Good to hear you salvaged it. I was acurate on 3 holes and had to
wallow out the last hole to get mine to work.

"stoutman" wrote:

I pulled it from the trash and widened the holes so now they all line up. I
wanted to attach it to the side of my table saw so I made a practice router
table top. It turned out so good that it became my "actual" top. The only
complant I have against the rousseau is the difficulty in putting in the
hole reducer rings. Other than that it seems pretty good.



"stoutman" wrote in message
. com...
Couldnt line up the dam holes when drilling it out for my PC 7518. I
trashed it. Ooops. Think im gonna get a predrilled router table blate
next time.



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