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Dave Jackson
 
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You know, I've used the same dresser pretty much all my life. My parents
bought it for me when I was very young and it was built in the late 1960's.
It's nothing fancy, just a manufactured colonial style dresser that's held
up well over the years. The thing I've never understood is why there are
all those dark speckles in the light finish.
I've been reading Jeff Jewitt's book on finishing and just read the part
on "fly specking". It's a method used to fake damage in a finish. Ahhh,
that's what it's called.
After contemplating this for a few minutes, I finally put two and two
together. Those dark specks look just like the ones the flies leave on the
windows in my shop! I know, most of you are probably thinking "well duh!"
but here's the situation. Are those specks crap or puke? I'm no insect
specialist, but I've always understood that flies often puke when they land.
They also have to crap *somewhere*.
Did the manufacturer of my dresser try to imitate fly puke or crap in
the finish???? This sounds asinine! Does anyone have any insight as to the
real nature of "fly specking"? --dave


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Prolly both?
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columni...derquest_x.htm

Houseflies are messy eaters.
Jim Kalisch, Department of Entomology, University of Nebraska-Lincoln

Q: What are the little black dots that flies leave behind all over the
surfaces in my house? (Alison, Lissewege, Belgium)

A: Flies have a disgusting way of feeding. They can't eat solid food since
their spongy mouthparts are too soft to break up food. So, they soften the
victual by spitting on it. The saliva melts the piece of food. They sop it
up like a sponge into their digestive tract. Since the food is already
liquefied, flies digest nutrients fast and soon expel fecal material.

There you have it — the two sources of flyspecks — saliva and fecal matter.
As the fly eats, it scatters spit. Soon after eating, it eliminates waste.

Additional reading:
http://www.ivyhall.district96.k12.il...sects/fly.html

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Jackson"
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Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 6:46 PM
Subject: WTF?! Fly Puke???


You know, I've used the same dresser pretty much all my life. My

parents
bought it for me when I was very young and it was built in the late

1960's.
It's nothing fancy, just a manufactured colonial style dresser that's held
up well over the years. The thing I've never understood is why there

are
all those dark speckles in the light finish.
I've been reading Jeff Jewitt's book on finishing and just read the

part
on "fly specking". It's a method used to fake damage in a finish. Ahhh,
that's what it's called.
After contemplating this for a few minutes, I finally put two and two
together. Those dark specks look just like the ones the flies leave on

the
windows in my shop! I know, most of you are probably thinking "well duh!"
but here's the situation. Are those specks crap or puke? I'm no insect
specialist, but I've always understood that flies often puke when they

land.
They also have to crap *somewhere*.
Did the manufacturer of my dresser try to imitate fly puke or crap in
the finish???? This sounds asinine! Does anyone have any insight as to

the
real nature of "fly specking"? --dave




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NorthIdahoWWer
 
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Ok, so now the question is WHY would someone imitate that on furniture?


Houseflies are messy eaters.
Jim Kalisch, Department of Entomology, University of Nebraska-Lincoln

Q: What are the little black dots that flies leave behind all over the
surfaces in my house? (Alison, Lissewege, Belgium)

A: Flies have a disgusting way of feeding. They can't eat solid food since
their spongy mouthparts are too soft to break up food. So, they soften the
victual by spitting on it. The saliva melts the piece of food. They sop it
up like a sponge into their digestive tract. Since the food is already
liquefied, flies digest nutrients fast and soon expel fecal material.

There you have it - the two sources of flyspecks - saliva and fecal

matter.
As the fly eats, it scatters spit. Soon after eating, it eliminates waste.

Additional reading:
http://www.ivyhall.district96.k12.il...sects/fly.html

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Jackson"
Newsgroups: rec.woodworking
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 6:46 PM
Subject: WTF?! Fly Puke???


You know, I've used the same dresser pretty much all my life. My

parents
bought it for me when I was very young and it was built in the late

1960's.
It's nothing fancy, just a manufactured colonial style dresser that's

held
up well over the years. The thing I've never understood is why there

are
all those dark speckles in the light finish.
I've been reading Jeff Jewitt's book on finishing and just read the

part
on "fly specking". It's a method used to fake damage in a finish.

Ahhh,
that's what it's called.
After contemplating this for a few minutes, I finally put two and

two
together. Those dark specks look just like the ones the flies leave on

the
windows in my shop! I know, most of you are probably thinking "well

duh!"
but here's the situation. Are those specks crap or puke? I'm no insect
specialist, but I've always understood that flies often puke when they

land.
They also have to crap *somewhere*.
Did the manufacturer of my dresser try to imitate fly puke or crap

in
the finish???? This sounds asinine! Does anyone have any insight as to

the
real nature of "fly specking"? --dave






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De gustibus non est disputandum.

"NorthIdahoWWer" wrote in message
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Ok, so now the question is WHY would someone imitate that on furniture?


Houseflies are messy eaters.
Jim Kalisch, Department of Entomology, University of Nebraska-Lincoln


There you have it - the two sources of flyspecks - saliva and fecal

matter.
As the fly eats, it scatters spit. Soon after eating, it eliminates

waste.



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On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 02:46:05 GMT, Dave Jackson wrote:

Did the manufacturer of my dresser try to imitate fly puke or crap in
the finish???? This sounds asinine! Does anyone have any insight as to the
real nature of "fly specking"?


Even more amazing, is when you see printed fake wood with that effect.
I just don't get it; I'm one of those people that think that wood should
look like, you know, _wood_, and if you want a red wood when you're done,
you should start with a red wood; if you want a dark wood when you're
done, start with a dark wood, that sort of thing.



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In article GKvVd.71631$wc.34639@trnddc07, Peter Shull
wrote:

Flies have a disgusting way of feeding. They can't eat solid food since
their spongy mouthparts are too soft to break up food. So, they soften the
victual by spitting on it. The saliva melts the piece of food. They sop it
up like a sponge into their digestive tract. Since the food is already
liquefied, flies digest nutrients fast and soon expel fecal material.

There you have it — the two sources of flyspecks — saliva and fecal matter.
As the fly eats, it scatters spit. Soon after eating, it eliminates waste.


"That's not a fly, it's a ladybug."
"Damn, I wish my eyes were as good as yours."

Gerry
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"Dave Jackson" wrote in message
ink.net...
You know, I've used the same dresser pretty much all my life. My

parents
bought it for me when I was very young and it was built in the late

1960's.
It's nothing fancy, just a manufactured colonial style dresser that's held
up well over the years. The thing I've never understood is why there

are
all those dark speckles in the light finish.
I've been reading Jeff Jewitt's book on finishing and just read the

part
on "fly specking". It's a method used to fake damage in a finish. Ahhh,
that's what it's called.
After contemplating this for a few minutes, I finally put two and two
together. Those dark specks look just like the ones the flies leave on

the
windows in my shop! I know, most of you are probably thinking "well duh!"
but here's the situation. Are those specks crap or puke? I'm no insect
specialist, but I've always understood that flies often puke when they

land.
They also have to crap *somewhere*.
Did the manufacturer of my dresser try to imitate fly puke or crap in
the finish???? This sounds asinine! Does anyone have any insight as to

the
real nature of "fly specking"? --dave


I was under the impression that the specks were there to imitate pecan.
I could be wrong though, I think it was something I read somewhere a long
time ago.
Jim


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"Peter Shull" wrote in message
news:GKvVd.71631$wc.34639@trnddc07...
Prolly both?

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columni...derquest_x.htm

Houseflies are messy eaters.
Jim Kalisch, Department of Entomology, University of Nebraska-Lincoln

Q: What are the little black dots that flies leave behind all over the
surfaces in my house? (Alison, Lissewege, Belgium)

A: Flies have a disgusting way of feeding. They can't eat solid food since
their spongy mouthparts are too soft to break up food. So, they soften the
victual by spitting on it. The saliva melts the piece of food. They sop it
up like a sponge into their digestive tract. Since the food is already
liquefied, flies digest nutrients fast and soon expel fecal material.

You can see this on a revoltingly grand scale in the movie "The Fly" - not
the original, but the remake starring Jeff Goldblum. He sits down in front
of a box of donuts, hurls all over it, then slurps up the resulting mess.
The look on Geena Davis' face as she observes this scene is priceless.

B.


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Interesting. By any chance did this scene take place in a furniture factory?


"Buddy Matlosz" wrote in message
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"Peter Shull" wrote in message
news:GKvVd.71631$wc.34639@trnddc07...
Prolly both?


http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columni...derquest_x.htm

Houseflies are messy eaters.
Jim Kalisch, Department of Entomology, University of Nebraska-Lincoln

Q: What are the little black dots that flies leave behind all over the
surfaces in my house? (Alison, Lissewege, Belgium)

A: Flies have a disgusting way of feeding. They can't eat solid food

since
their spongy mouthparts are too soft to break up food. So, they soften

the
victual by spitting on it. The saliva melts the piece of food. They sop

it
up like a sponge into their digestive tract. Since the food is already
liquefied, flies digest nutrients fast and soon expel fecal material.

You can see this on a revoltingly grand scale in the movie "The Fly" - not
the original, but the remake starring Jeff Goldblum. He sits down in front
of a box of donuts, hurls all over it, then slurps up the resulting mess.
The look on Geena Davis' face as she observes this scene is priceless.

B.




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Airsick?

"Dave Jackson" wrote in message
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I'm no insect
specialist, but I've always understood that flies often puke when they

land.




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In article ,
Dave Hinz wrote:

On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 02:46:05 GMT, Dave Jackson wrote:

Did the manufacturer of my dresser try to imitate fly puke or crap in
the finish???? This sounds asinine! Does anyone have any insight as to
the
real nature of "fly specking"?


Even more amazing, is when you see printed fake wood with that effect.
I just don't get it; I'm one of those people that think that wood should
look like, you know, _wood_, and if you want a red wood when you're done,
you should start with a red wood; if you want a dark wood when you're
done, start with a dark wood, that sort of thing.


Maybe it is my hydroponic lettuce again, but I was always under the
impression that the 'specks' were supposed to imitate worm holes.
In fact, I'm pretty sure that the 'chewed by bugs look' is what they are
after. Fly**** has little appeal to the trompe d'oeil artist. Worm
holes, on the other hand, can be intriguing. (Wrong forum to be
discussing travel to other dimensions and all that rot.)

When faced with fly**** on your melamine, you will find out that laquer
thinner barely touches (removes) it. Same with denatured (Methyl
Hydrate) alcohol...but if you use water, it wipes right up!
Betcha Martha didn't know that.

0¿0
˜

Rob--- who thinks the word 'barfridge' looks funny.
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Buddy Matlosz wrote:
You can see this on a revoltingly grand scale in the movie "The Fly" - not
the original, but the remake starring Jeff Goldblum. He sits down in front
of a box of donuts, hurls all over it, then slurps up the resulting mess.
The look on Geena Davis' face as she observes this scene is priceless.


Izzat why they split up?

Dave in Fairfax
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Hold on. Nobody is getting the point at all, here! The real question
is: how did the manufacturer get flies to puke/crap on command on the
dresser?

Focus, people . . . FOCUS!

FoggyTown

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On 4 Mar 2005 13:31:00 -0800, foggytown wrote:
Hold on. Nobody is getting the point at all, here! The real question
is: how did the manufacturer get flies to puke/crap on command on the
dresser?


We _have_ been talking about that. Cher, Aaron Neville, Whitney Houston...

Focus, people . . . FOCUS!


Indeed.

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Dave Hinz wrote:

On 4 Mar 2005 13:31:00 -0800, foggytown wrote:
Hold on. Nobody is getting the point at all, here! The real question
is: how did the manufacturer get flies to puke/crap on command on the
dresser?


We _have_ been talking about that. Cher, Aaron Neville, Whitney
Houston...


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On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 01:26:21 -0500, Silvan wrote:
We _have_ been talking about that. Cher, Aaron Neville, Whitney
Houston...


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Instant fly puke.


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