Has anyone used Waterlox tung oil finish (high gloss) over a water based
analine dye. I have a curly maple table top that I am getting ready to
finish and was considering trying this.

Thanks,


Frank (Novice Woodworker)

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 00:22:58 GMT, the inscrutable "Frank & Renee"
spake:

Has anyone used Waterlox tung oil finish (high gloss) over a water based
analine dye. I have a curly maple table top that I am getting ready to
finish and was considering trying this.

No, but it should work fine. Try it on a sample of scrap from the
same project.


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"Menja bé, caga fort!"

Seems to me that applying a hydrophobic material onto a hydrophilic material
would cause problems.




"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 00:22:58 GMT, the inscrutable "Frank & Renee"
spake:

Has anyone used Waterlox tung oil finish (high gloss) over a water based
analine dye. I have a curly maple table top that I am getting ready to
finish and was considering trying this.

No, but it should work fine. Try it on a sample of scrap from the
same project.


--
"Menja bé, caga fort!"

"stoutman" wrote in message
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Seems to me that applying a hydrophobic material onto a hydrophilic
material
would cause problems.


Nope. Works fine. A little bit of transfer is all I've ever experienced.

"Frank & Renee" wrote in message
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Has anyone used Waterlox tung oil finish (high gloss) over a water based
analine dye. I have a curly maple table top that I am getting ready to
finish and was considering trying this.

It works fine. Make sure the dye stain is completely dry though because I
have had instances where the dye stain mixes with the waterlox and causes
blotches. I have also had the same problem using polyurethane (both oil
based and water based) so I think the key word here is dry.
SH

Slowhand wrote:
"Frank & Renee" wrote in message
news:CvtUd.51016$sR5.5822@trndny05...

Has anyone used Waterlox tung oil finish (high gloss) over a water based
analine dye. I have a curly maple table top that I am getting ready to
finish and was considering trying this.


It works fine. Make sure the dye stain is completely dry though because I
have had instances where the dye stain mixes with the waterlox and causes
blotches. I have also had the same problem using polyurethane (both oil
based and water based) so I think the key word here is dry.
SH



Maybe a shellac barrier coat would be in order?

Barry

I have used it over black, water based analine dye. Works fine. I mix
1/3rd Waterlox, 1/3 pure China tung oil, and 1/3rd terpentine. I apply 3
coats of the waterlox mix over the dye, waiting a minimum of 24 hours
between coats.

Rick
http://www.thunderworksinc.com

Frank & Renee wrote:
Has anyone used Waterlox tung oil finish (high gloss) over a water based
analine dye. I have a curly maple table top that I am getting ready to
finish and was considering trying this.

Thanks,


Frank (Novice Woodworker)

"Frank & Renee" wrote in message
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Has anyone used Waterlox tung oil finish (high gloss) over a water based
analine dye. I have a curly maple table top that I am getting ready to

I've done General Finishes Arm-R-Seal over water-based analine dyes lotsa
times.

I have used it over black, water based analine dye. Works fine. I mix 1/3rd
Waterlox, 1/3 pure China tung oil, and 1/3rd terpentine. I apply 3 coats of
the waterlox mix over the dye, waiting a minimum of 24 hours between coats.

Isn't Waterlox already a mixture of varnish and tung oil?

"B a r r y" wrote in message
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Slowhand wrote:
"Frank & Renee" wrote in message
news:CvtUd.51016$sR5.5822@trndny05...

Has anyone used Waterlox tung oil finish (high gloss) over a water based
analine dye. I have a curly maple table top that I am getting ready to
finish and was considering trying this.


It works fine. Make sure the dye stain is completely dry though because
I
have had instances where the dye stain mixes with the waterlox and
causes
blotches. I have also had the same problem using polyurethane (both oil
based and water based) so I think the key word here is dry.
SH



Maybe a shellac barrier coat would be in order?


Not if the dye solvent is alcohol or water.

Dewaxed shellac over water based stain seems to be the way to go. I have
never tried it but in the latest issue of FWW pg 36, the author seals water
based dye stain with dewaxed shellac before applying a glaze coat consisting
of oil based varnish.



"George" george@least wrote in message
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"B a r r y" wrote in
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Slowhand wrote:
"Frank & Renee" wrote in message
news:CvtUd.51016$sR5.5822@trndny05...

Has anyone used Waterlox tung oil finish (high gloss) over a water
based
analine dye. I have a curly maple table top that I am getting ready to
finish and was considering trying this.


It works fine. Make sure the dye stain is completely dry though
because
I
have had instances where the dye stain mixes with the waterlox and
causes
blotches. I have also had the same problem using polyurethane (both
oil
based and water based) so I think the key word here is dry.
SH



Maybe a shellac barrier coat would be in order?


Not if the dye solvent is alcohol or water.

"Frank & Renee" wrote in news:CvtUd.51016
$sR5.5822@trndny05:

Has anyone used Waterlox tung oil finish (high gloss) over a water based
analine dye. I have a curly maple table top that I am getting ready to
finish and was considering trying this.


Hi Frank,

I've done it. No problems. Here are a couple of boxes I did with aniline
dye on the curly portions, with Waterlox original over all:

http://home.earthlink.net/
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http://home.earthlink.net/
~nateperkins1/Woodworking/projects/christmas2004/PC250142.JPG

"mp" wrote in message
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I have used it over black, water based analine dye. Works fine. I mix
1/3rd Waterlox, 1/3 pure China tung oil, and 1/3rd terpentine. I apply 3
coats of the waterlox mix over the dye, waiting a minimum of 24 hours
between coats.

Isn't Waterlox already a mixture of varnish and tung oil?

I hate it when this happens. I started using Waterlox because I got tired
of making my own blend. You mean I'm still missing out? Dang. I will
admit to thinning waterlox on occasion though ;-)
SH