Iam looking for a good sorce of imfo for build up labour rates for
making custom joinery from windows to stairs .I know that all
workshops are different ,and people do things in a different way ,but
all the same looking for some imfo that i can bulid on in spread sheet
format . Thanks

"paul flint" wrote in message
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Iam looking for a good sorce of imfo for build up labour rates for
making custom joinery from windows to stairs .I know that all
workshops are different ,and people do things in a different way ,but
all the same looking for some imfo that i can bulid on in spread sheet
format . Thanks

I bill $100 an hour, four hour minimum. I don't to stairs but the Florida
stairman does.

I bill $100 an hour, four hour minimum. I don't to stairs but the Florida
stairman does.

That's nothing. I bill $400/hr, three week minimum.

So far, no takers, but that's besides the point.

Perhaps you should consider $5 an hour for a while and see if there are
any takers.

mp wrote:
I bill $100 an hour, four hour minimum. I don't to stairs but the Florida
stairman does.


That's nothing. I bill $400/hr, three week minimum.

So far, no takers, but that's besides the point.



--
Will
Occasional Techno-geek

paul flint wrote:
Iam looking for a good sorce of imfo for build up labour rates for
making custom joinery from windows to stairs .I know that all
workshops are different ,and people do things in a different way ,but
all the same looking for some imfo that i can bulid on in spread sheet
format . Thanks

There is an old formula that applies to almost any manufacturing
business that goes something like this:

30% Materials
30% Labor
30% Overhead
10% Profit
++++++++++++++++++
100% = Sell Price

Sometimes you need to massage the labor and material numbers a little bit.

For example, if the materials used have a lot of waste, might use only
10%-15% for materials.

It works for me.

YMMV

Lew

For whatever it is worth... After years of working with manufacturers,
they still seem to be fond of the "two times" table -- and if not they
seem to fail...

+ Materials
+ Labor
+ Overhead
+ Contingency
_______________

X 2

= Selling price

i.e. 50% profit



Lew Hodgett wrote:
paul flint wrote:

Iam looking for a good sorce of imfo for build up labour rates for
making custom joinery from windows to stairs .I know that all
workshops are different ,and people do things in a different way ,but
all the same looking for some imfo that i can bulid on in spread sheet
format . Thanks


There is an old formula that applies to almost any manufacturing
business that goes something like this:

30% Materials
30% Labor
30% Overhead
10% Profit
++++++++++++++++++
100% = Sell Price

Sometimes you need to massage the labor and material numbers a little bit.

For example, if the materials used have a lot of waste, might use only
10%-15% for materials.

It works for me.

YMMV

Lew


--
Will
Occasional Techno-geek

"Will" wrote in message
...
For whatever it is worth... After years of working with manufacturers,
they still seem to be fond of the "two times" table -- and if not they
seem to fail...

+ Materials
+ Labor
+ Overhead
+ Contingency
_______________

X 2

= Selling price

i.e. 50% profit



In my industry we are lucky to sell at 2X material and still have to pay the
labor, overhead, etc. Guess we are in the wrong business.

In article ,
paul flint wrote:
Iam looking for a good sorce of imfo for build up labour rates for
making custom joinery from windows to stairs .I know that all
workshops are different ,and people do things in a different way ,but
all the same looking for some imfo that i can bulid on in spread sheet
format . Thanks

The 'safe' figure to use is "an arm and half a leg" grin

Any 'realistic' answer is going to have an uncertianty range of _at_least_
a factor of five, more likely ten. Which is so broad as to make it 'useless'.

labour rates

Judging by the spelling, you are in a Commonwealth country, so local
conditions will be key, but in Washington, DC casual labor retails at
$80/hour. Skilled goes higher.

Well - I thought you had at least a reasonable answer. :-) I have
noticed that most people seem to forget that they are also charging for
the tools and transportation - not just labour and materials.

Last few car repairs I notice the shop rate varied form $65 to $105
depending on the shop and the overhead in terms of specialty equipment.

As long as you provide value for money people will pay your rate - no
matter how high or low.


Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
"Will" wrote in message
...

For whatever it is worth... After years of working with manufacturers,
they still seem to be fond of the "two times" table -- and if not they
seem to fail...

+ Materials
+ Labor
+ Overhead
+ Contingency
_______________

X 2

= Selling price

i.e. 50% profit




In my industry we are lucky to sell at 2X material and still have to pay the
labor, overhead, etc. Guess we are in the wrong business.



--
Will
Occasional Techno-geek

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

I bill $100 an hour, four hour minimum. I don't to stairs but the Florida
stairman does.


Unless you actually ask him a stair question, then he disappears.

Barry

"B a r r y" wrote in message
...
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

I bill $100 an hour, four hour minimum. I don't to stairs but the
Florida stairman does.


Unless you actually ask him a stair question, then he disappears.

Barry

He's probably busy in the kitchen roasting a chicken.