My wife, gotta love her. She gets a bonus at work, and wants a new
kitchen table and chairs (I'd build them but I'm just getting started
and she can't wait that long...). OK, so we order them this past
weekend. She also wants to send some money to a friend who needs help.
That's cool with me. Also wants to put some into savings. No
problem. Finally, she says there's about $800 left, and why don't I get
myself a jointer. SWMBO, must be obeyed, I guess.

Seems like a lot of folks get a 6" and trade up or wish they got an 8"
in the first place. I'm interested in an 8" Yorkcraft, but am open to
other options if this isn't a good choice. However, I've also been
thinking about a drill press, so maybe a 6" Yorkcraft would leave me
enough room for one of those. Space-wise, I have room for either the 6
or 8.

I guess it comes down to whether its better to get two toys, er, tools,
or one, but I'd value input in case there's something I haven't
considered.

Also, saw a Woodworks show where David Marks said it's a good idea to
have jointer knives back-beveled, it gives more of a scraping effect.
I'm interested to hear if anyone's tried this.

Thanks, appreciate all your good advice. And by the way, she does have
a sister...

"Dave Miller" wrote in message
...
My wife, gotta love her. She gets a bonus at work, and wants a new
kitchen table and chairs (I'd build them but I'm just getting started
and she can't wait that long...). OK, so we order them this past
weekend. She also wants to send some money to a friend who needs help.
That's cool with me. Also wants to put some into savings. No
problem. Finally, she says there's about $800 left, and why don't I get
myself a jointer. SWMBO, must be obeyed, I guess.

Seems like a lot of folks get a 6" and trade up or wish they got an 8"
in the first place. I'm interested in an 8" Yorkcraft, but am open to
other options if this isn't a good choice. However, I've also been
thinking about a drill press, so maybe a 6" Yorkcraft would leave me
enough room for one of those. Space-wise, I have room for either the 6
or 8.

I guess it comes down to whether its better to get two toys, er, tools,
or one, but I'd value input in case there's something I haven't
considered.

Also, saw a Woodworks show where David Marks said it's a good idea to
have jointer knives back-beveled, it gives more of a scraping effect.
I'm interested to hear if anyone's tried this.

Thanks, appreciate all your good advice. And by the way, she does have
a sister...

I have an 8" Delta DJ-20 that I bought used for about what you're looking to
spend. While I like it a lot, I'd say there's a lot of work that could be
done on a 6" unit as well. Using grizzly.com as a guide, you could either
spend about $450 on a 6" unit or $765 on an 8" unit. I'd give serious
thought to the 6" unit and putting the other $300+ towards a drill press.

todd

Dave Miller wrote:
I guess it comes down to whether its better to get two toys, er, tools,
or one, but I'd value input in case there's something I haven't
considered.


Get that great big giant assed jointer and be done with it. You can make do
drilling holes until you find a drill press that suits you. I'm the guy they're
talking about when they discuss buying for current needs and then having to
upsize later. I'm sick of it. Better to buy something that will take care of
your conceivable needs now... the shipping is going to be hefty in any case...
why pay twice?

As for your wife: would she consider fooling around? I find myself with a
little free time these days and still have some room in the garage.




--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

I have the Yorkcraft 6" jointer on the way. If I get time I will post
a review with my first impressions. As for 6" vs 8" - my decision was
predicated on shop size (mine does FT service as a garage for the Mrs).
If I had the dough and the space there is not a doubt in my mind I
would have gone for the big bad boy instead. Not so much for the extra
width but for the bed length. Nothing like having a long flat bed for
all your joint work ;-}

Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
Dave Miller wrote:
I guess it comes down to whether its better to get two toys, er,
tools,
or one, but I'd value input in case there's something I haven't
considered.


Get that great big giant assed jointer and be done with it. You can
make do
drilling holes until you find a drill press that suits you. I'm the
guy they're
talking about when they discuss buying for current needs and then
having to
upsize later. I'm sick of it. Better to buy something that will
take care of
your conceivable needs now... the shipping is going to be hefty in
any case...
why pay twice?

As for your wife: would she consider fooling around? I find myself
with a
little free time these days and still have some room in the garage.




--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

On 8 Feb 2005 06:45:56 -0800, "diyguy" wrote:

I have the Yorkcraft 6" jointer on the way. If I get time I will post
a review with my first impressions. As for 6" vs 8" - my decision was
predicated on shop size (mine does FT service as a garage for the Mrs).
If I had the dough and the space there is not a doubt in my mind I
would have gone for the big bad boy instead. Not so much for the extra
width but for the bed length. Nothing like having a long flat bed for
all your joint work ;-}

Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
Dave Miller wrote:
I guess it comes down to whether its better to get two toys, er,
tools,
or one, but I'd value input in case there's something I haven't
considered.


Get that great big giant assed jointer and be done with it. You can
make do
drilling holes until you find a drill press that suits you. I'm the
guy they're
talking about when they discuss buying for current needs and then
having to
upsize later. I'm sick of it. Better to buy something that will
take care of
your conceivable needs now... the shipping is going to be hefty in
any case...
why pay twice?

besides, you might take up the RC airplane hobby and need a landing field....
*g*


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

Dave, You have a wonderful bride!

I would suggest you pick either the big jointer or a quality drill press.
If you have any money left, take her out for a nice meal as a thank you.

David Marks is correct, back beveling the knives helps with highly figured
woods.

Dave


"Dave Miller" wrote in message
...
My wife, gotta love her. She gets a bonus at work, and wants a new
kitchen table and chairs (I'd build them but I'm just getting started and
she can't wait that long...). OK, so we order them this past weekend.
She also wants to send some money to a friend who needs help. That's cool
with me. Also wants to put some into savings. No problem. Finally, she
says there's about $800 left, and why don't I get myself a jointer.
SWMBO, must be obeyed, I guess.

Seems like a lot of folks get a 6" and trade up or wish they got an 8" in
the first place. I'm interested in an 8" Yorkcraft, but am open to other
options if this isn't a good choice. However, I've also been thinking
about a drill press, so maybe a 6" Yorkcraft would leave me enough room
for one of those. Space-wise, I have room for either the 6 or 8.

I guess it comes down to whether its better to get two toys, er, tools, or
one, but I'd value input in case there's something I haven't considered.

Also, saw a Woodworks show where David Marks said it's a good idea to have
jointer knives back-beveled, it gives more of a scraping effect. I'm
interested to hear if anyone's tried this.

Thanks, appreciate all your good advice. And by the way, she does have a
sister...




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Dave, You have a wonderful bride!

I would suggest you pick either the big jointer or a quality drill press.
If you have any money left, take her out for a nice meal as a thank you.

David Marks is correct, back beveling the knives helps with highly figured
woods.

Dave


"Dave Miller" wrote in message
...
My wife, gotta love her. She gets a bonus at work, and wants a new
kitchen table and chairs (I'd build them but I'm just getting started and
she can't wait that long...). OK, so we order them this past weekend.
She also wants to send some money to a friend who needs help. That's cool
with me. Also wants to put some into savings. No problem. Finally, she
says there's about $800 left, and why don't I get myself a jointer.
SWMBO, must be obeyed, I guess.

Seems like a lot of folks get a 6" and trade up or wish they got an 8" in
the first place. I'm interested in an 8" Yorkcraft, but am open to other
options if this isn't a good choice. However, I've also been thinking
about a drill press, so maybe a 6" Yorkcraft would leave me enough room
for one of those. Space-wise, I have room for either the 6 or 8.

I guess it comes down to whether its better to get two toys, er, tools, or
one, but I'd value input in case there's something I haven't considered.

Also, saw a Woodworks show where David Marks said it's a good idea to have
jointer knives back-beveled, it gives more of a scraping effect. I'm
interested to hear if anyone's tried this.

Thanks, appreciate all your good advice. And by the way, she does have a
sister...




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Go to a Woodcraft store or other woodworking store that
has a 6" and 8" jointer(Delta is good example).

You need to see the difference between the two side by side.

The difference between a 37-195(6") and a DJ-20(8") can
be measured in miles.


Dave Miller wrote:

My wife, gotta love her. She gets a bonus at work, and wants a new
kitchen table and chairs (I'd build them but I'm just getting started
and she can't wait that long...). OK, so we order them this past
weekend. She also wants to send some money to a friend who needs help.
That's cool with me. Also wants to put some into savings. No
problem. Finally, she says there's about $800 left, and why don't I get
myself a jointer. SWMBO, must be obeyed, I guess.

Seems like a lot of folks get a 6" and trade up or wish they got an 8"
in the first place. I'm interested in an 8" Yorkcraft, but am open to
other options if this isn't a good choice. However, I've also been
thinking about a drill press, so maybe a 6" Yorkcraft would leave me
enough room for one of those. Space-wise, I have room for either the 6
or 8.

I would suggest taking your wife out to a very nice meal FIRST....then
spend the remainder on as nice a tool as you can buy.

Over the years, I have bought quality over immediate gratification
(cheap tools) and yes, it was worth the wait and sacrifice. I am also
dollars ahead since cheap tools depreciate quickly and are difficult to
sell (who wants them...nobody).

TMT

The answer to this question depends on what you want to do, and what other
tools you have. There is usually more than one way to do something. I made
a jointer fence for my router table and used it successfully before I got my
jointer. And even though I now have the jointer, I use my drill press more
often, as a sander and a mortiser as well as drilling holes.

Treat that wife well, she's a gem.

Steve

"Pat Barber" wrote in message
...
Go to a Woodcraft store or other woodworking store that
has a 6" and 8" jointer(Delta is good example).

You need to see the difference between the two side by side.

The difference between a 37-195(6") and a DJ-20(8") can
be measured in miles.


Dave Miller wrote:

My wife, gotta love her. She gets a bonus at work, and wants a new
kitchen table and chairs (I'd build them but I'm just getting started and
she can't wait that long...). OK, so we order them this past weekend.
She also wants to send some money to a friend who needs help. That's cool
with me. Also wants to put some into savings. No problem. Finally, she
says there's about $800 left, and why don't I get myself a jointer.
SWMBO, must be obeyed, I guess.

Seems like a lot of folks get a 6" and trade up or wish they got an 8" in
the first place. I'm interested in an 8" Yorkcraft, but am open to other
options if this isn't a good choice. However, I've also been thinking
about a drill press, so maybe a 6" Yorkcraft would leave me enough room
for one of those. Space-wise, I have room for either the 6 or 8.

Dave Miller wrote in news:42085FED.60605
@insightbb.com:

Finally, she says there's about $800 left, and why don't I get
myself a jointer. SWMBO, must be obeyed, I guess.

snippage of a real nice story

In the SF Bay area, $800 is about the going price for a redone vintage 8"
Delta, with new everything that it needs, from a reliable source. If I had
the room, that's what I would purchase. And if I had more room yet, I'd
get an even larger one. For now, a Stanley #8 does all right.

I would not buy a new drill press, unless I could spend at least $350, to
get that kind of capacity. Again, used might be a good option.

Patriarch

"Dave Miller" wrote in message
...

My wife, gotta love her... snip... Finally, she says there's about $800
left, and why don't I get
myself a jointer. SWMBO, must be obeyed, I guess.


You suck Dave. BTW, any chance of sending your wife over for a few days?
--

-Mike-

Frankly I would spring for the best 8" jointer I could find for the money
with a long table, because it is easy enough to save up for a $400 DP
any time. Question, what is so great about Yorkcraft?

--
Alex
cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/

Dave -

My $.02 is to get the best 8" jointer you can afford, and look for a DP on
sale at one of the Borgs or at an estate auction. I bought a Jet 6" at an
auction, and it's been a great tool - but I'm now finding that an 8" would
be nice. If you can afford the 8" now, I'd get it right from the start.

I picked up a Delta 12" DP (I think it's DP350) at Lowes on sale for $120
last year. It does everything I need it to. I know what people have said
about them here before, but for me it's great. I don't have a production
shop - I'm just a hobby woodworker. I don't have the need for a huge floor
model, nor do I have the space.

FWIW, I'm really starting to evaluate my tool needs in this way now - yeah,
it's cool to have the biggest, baddest, fire breathing monster that you can
buy, but do I REALLY need all that? How much will I use it? I'd like to
have a dovetail jig - I saw the Akeda (sp?) at the WW show here last month,
and really liked it. But, would I do enough dovetails of variable spacing
in up to 16" stock to justify a $500 expenditure? I don't think so right
now. So, I'm really looking at that new PC jig for $150 (back of the latest
Woodcraft catalogue). Besides if I find I really need the Akeda, I can
always Ebay the PC.

Sorry for the rant, but it helped clarify my decision on the dt jig. Oh
yeah, like previous replies said, treat that wife really good, she IS a gem!

Nick B


"Dave Miller" wrote in message
...
My wife, gotta love her. She gets a bonus at work, and wants a new
kitchen table and chairs (I'd build them but I'm just getting started and
she can't wait that long...). OK, so we order them this past weekend.
She also wants to send some money to a friend who needs help. That's cool
with me. Also wants to put some into savings. No problem. Finally, she
says there's about $800 left, and why don't I get myself a jointer.
SWMBO, must be obeyed, I guess.

Seems like a lot of folks get a 6" and trade up or wish they got an 8" in
the first place. I'm interested in an 8" Yorkcraft, but am open to other
options if this isn't a good choice. However, I've also been thinking
about a drill press, so maybe a 6" Yorkcraft would leave me enough room
for one of those. Space-wise, I have room for either the 6 or 8.

I guess it comes down to whether its better to get two toys, er, tools, or
one, but I'd value input in case there's something I haven't considered.

Also, saw a Woodworks show where David Marks said it's a good idea to have
jointer knives back-beveled, it gives more of a scraping effect. I'm
interested to hear if anyone's tried this.

Thanks, appreciate all your good advice. And by the way, she does have a
sister...

AAvK wrote:

Frankly I would spring for the best 8" jointer I could find for the money
with a long table, because it is easy enough to save up for a $400 DP
any time. Question, what is so great about Yorkcraft?

They're essentially the Delta...come (or at least at time of last review
I saw) from same Chinese factory and fit/finish was nearly as good...

Thanks for all the replies! You've helped push me towards getting a
bigger jointer. I like what I've read about the Yorkcraft, and the
price is right. Grizzly has an 8" in my price range, too, but one
consideration is I don't have 220 service. I may decide to do something
about that, but will want to use the jointer before I get around to
that. I understand the Yorkcraft will run on 110. Seems to be one of
the few 8" jointers that is dual voltage. Too bad all this good luck
came after Wilke's shipping deal ended.

Of course, if I could find one of those used DJ-20's I read about in
here, I'd find a way to get 220 wired in the next two hours. Priorities...

Thanks again, all!

Dave (who is making reservations at a fancy restaurant for his bride!)


Dave Miller wrote:
My wife, gotta love her. She gets a bonus at work, and wants a new
kitchen table and chairs (I'd build them but I'm just getting started
and she can't wait that long...). OK, so we order them this past
weekend. She also wants to send some money to a friend who needs help.
That's cool with me. Also wants to put some into savings. No
problem. Finally, she says there's about $800 left, and why don't I get
myself a jointer. SWMBO, must be obeyed, I guess.

Seems like a lot of folks get a 6" and trade up or wish they got an 8"
in the first place. I'm interested in an 8" Yorkcraft, but am open to
other options if this isn't a good choice. However, I've also been
thinking about a drill press, so maybe a 6" Yorkcraft would leave me
enough room for one of those. Space-wise, I have room for either the 6
or 8.

I guess it comes down to whether its better to get two toys, er, tools,
or one, but I'd value input in case there's something I haven't considered.

Also, saw a Woodworks show where David Marks said it's a good idea to
have jointer knives back-beveled, it gives more of a scraping effect.
I'm interested to hear if anyone's tried this.

Thanks, appreciate all your good advice. And by the way, she does have
a sister...

"Dave Miller" wrote in message
...

Of course, if I could find one of those used DJ-20's I read about in here,
I'd find a way to get 220 wired in the next two hours. Priorities...

You could always add, out of your pocket, the price of a 6" jointer to the
$800 and get a new DJ-20. Why limit yourself. ;-)

I did the upgrade thing on pretty much my whole shop... I've never regretted
having the bigger tools but cursed the smaller ones, more times than I care
to think about, because they weren't up to the task. Of course what you work
on influences how big the tools should be... if you are making small jewelry
boxes you probably don't need big tools, but if you are doing built-ins,
cabinets, and architectural woodworking the big tools open up your range of
possibilities.

John

Dave Miller wrote:

Thanks, appreciate all your good advice. And by the way, she does have
a sister...

Yeahbut is her sister married?

You suck, BTW.

I'd probably get the most jointer for the $800 and save the DP for another
day. It's a lot easier to scrape up $300 than $800.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
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....I'll respect your marriage, dude. That other way of commenting is low-life, IMAO.

--
Alex
cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/

"AAvK" wrote in message
news:zviOd.55451$mt.3871@fed1read03...

...I'll respect your marriage, dude. That other way of commenting is
low-life, IMAO.


Not necessarily Alex - I know my comment had a hidden "maybe some of this
will rub off on my wife" thing in it. Sometimes the lead-ins are put out
there expecting further comment and they aren't as low life or disrespecting
as you think.
--

-Mike-

Dave, don't sweat it on the 220 service as that issue should not be
allowed to drive your purchase decision. If you've got space for a
breaker in your box, putting in a 220v line is really not all that
difficult, I've wired two shops (relocated twice) with 110v and 220v,
both 20amp service and all GFI protected, and I'm no electrical genius.
Get the right breakers for your box, a roll of 12ga romex and some 20a
"commercial" grade outlets and just do it. Go to Borders or Barnes &
Noble and take a look at this book: "Wiring a House" by Rex Caulfield
(Taunton, the FWW folks, publish it). I found it to be quite
informative and used it as a guide with much success. good luck

Mutt

Thanks for the tip, Mutt. I'll look for that book. Honestly, I'd like
to have 220 service, would like to rewire my table saw as well, and put
it on a separate circuit so the lights don't dim when I fire it up.
But I've only owned a house for a little over a year, and haven't
gotten up the courage to try "taming the lightning bolt."

One question, though. I live in Indiana, and not sure if this has to
be done by a licensed electrician. Does anyone know, or know where I
can find out?

"Dave in Indy" wrote in message
ups.com...
Thanks for the tip, Mutt. I'll look for that book. Honestly, I'd like
to have 220 service, would like to rewire my table saw as well, and put
it on a separate circuit so the lights don't dim when I fire it up.
But I've only owned a house for a little over a year, and haven't
gotten up the courage to try "taming the lightning bolt."

One question, though. I live in Indiana, and not sure if this has to
be done by a licensed electrician. Does anyone know, or know where I
can find out?

If you ask anyone in the electrical business, they will say YES. If you're
even halfway "handy" and can follow directions in a book, go for it. Just be
sure anything you're working on is "dead" when you're messing with it.

Question: Does the house already have 220 coming in? If so, it's a piece of
cake. If not, you DO need an electrician.

--
Nahmie
Those on the cutting edge bleed a lot.

I assume we do because we have electric dryer and stove.


Norman D. Crow wrote:
"Dave in Indy" wrote in message
ups.com...
Thanks for the tip, Mutt. I'll look for that book. Honestly, I'd
like
to have 220 service, would like to rewire my table saw as well, and
put
it on a separate circuit so the lights don't dim when I fire it up.
But I've only owned a house for a little over a year, and haven't
gotten up the courage to try "taming the lightning bolt."

One question, though. I live in Indiana, and not sure if this has
to
be done by a licensed electrician. Does anyone know, or know where
I
can find out?

If you ask anyone in the electrical business, they will say YES. If
you're
even halfway "handy" and can follow directions in a book, go for it.
Just be
sure anything you're working on is "dead" when you're messing with
it.

Question: Does the house already have 220 coming in? If so, it's a
piece of
cake. If not, you DO need an electrician.

--
Nahmie
Those on the cutting edge bleed a lot.

In article . com,
Dave in Indy wrote:
Thanks for the tip, Mutt. I'll look for that book. Honestly, I'd like
to have 220 service, would like to rewire my table saw as well, and put
it on a separate circuit so the lights don't dim when I fire it up.
But I've only owned a house for a little over a year, and haven't
gotten up the courage to try "taming the lightning bolt."

One question, though. I live in Indiana, and not sure if this has to
be done by a licensed electrician. Does anyone know, or know where I
can find out?


In _almost_ every jurisdiction, a _home_ *owner* is allowed to do their own
electrical work. A 'building permit' _may_ be required, and you (the home
owner) may be required to pass a _very_basic_ test on electrical wiring
before the permit is issued. (NOTE: 'rules' for a =multi-family= structure
(condo/townhouse/etc.) *may* be different. There is a risk of 'bad effects'
from a defective job spreading to the *other* owner's property; thus a
'licensed and bonded' professional _may_ be mandated by law. )

The way to find out, authoritatively, is to *ask* whatever government
controls such things where you live. For a municipality, or an un-incorporated
'village', this will be the department that has the 'building inspector(s)'
in it. The city hall switchboard almost invariably can connect you to the
right people, with nothing more than a "building inspector's office" request.

In article . com,
says...
Thanks for the tip, Mutt. I'll look for that book. Honestly, I'd like
to have 220 service, would like to rewire my table saw as well, and put
it on a separate circuit so the lights don't dim when I fire it up.
But I've only owned a house for a little over a year, and haven't
gotten up the courage to try "taming the lightning bolt."

One question, though. I live in Indiana, and not sure if this has to
be done by a licensed electrician. Does anyone know, or know where I
can find out?

We don't have any statewide requirements. It's all at the local level.
Short answer: whatever city or county you live in, call the city or
county government agency that issues building permits and ask what the
requirements are.

Long answer:

If you live inside Marion County, to be legal, you have two choices: hire
a licensed electrician, or obtain a homeowner electrical permit. The
latter isn't easy: when I did that some years back, you had to have your
plans approved by the Board of Electrical Examiners, and before you were
allowed to go before the board you had to pass a 10-question quiz over
the National Electrical Code. Minimum passing score is 7; even after
careful study of the Code, I only managed 6 right, but they gave me a
waiver anyway because all of my errors were on the side of safety (e.g.
What's the minimum size conduit for so many wires of such and such size?
Correct answer was 1 1/4 but I said 1 1/2). The process may have changed
since then, though; call the City-County Building and check.

Outside Marion County, it depends a *lot* on where you are. In Madison
County, for example, within the city limits of Anderson, you can do
whatever you want as long as you get it inspected when you're done;
outside the city limits, nobody cares: no license, no permit, no
inspection, do what you want. Most of Hamilton County is "nobody cares"
territory as well AFAIK (e.g. Noblesville lets anybody do anything
anywhere without a permit or inspection), but I believe things are
different within the Carmel city limits. Generally, the more rural you
get, the less anyone cares. [BTW, this means that some rural properties
are real nightmares. So keep that in mind if you ever move out in the
country.]

Dave in Indy wrote:

One question, though. I live in Indiana, and not sure if this has to
be done by a licensed electrician. Does anyone know, or know where I
can find out?

Talk to your local building inspector. You probably have to pull a permit
and get the work inspected after.

(I don't know anyone who has ever actually pulled a permit, or had the work
inspected, incidentally.)

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/

I live in Noblesville, but I'll probably call the building inspector's
office to see what they say. Noblesville is not the country outpost it
used to be, growing quite a bit these days.



Doug Miller wrote:
In article . com,
says...

Thanks for the tip, Mutt. I'll look for that book. Honestly, I'd like
to have 220 service, would like to rewire my table saw as well, and put
it on a separate circuit so the lights don't dim when I fire it up.
But I've only owned a house for a little over a year, and haven't
gotten up the courage to try "taming the lightning bolt."

One question, though. I live in Indiana, and not sure if this has to
be done by a licensed electrician. Does anyone know, or know where I
can find out?


We don't have any statewide requirements. It's all at the local level.
Short answer: whatever city or county you live in, call the city or
county government agency that issues building permits and ask what the
requirements are.

Long answer:

If you live inside Marion County, to be legal, you have two choices: hire
a licensed electrician, or obtain a homeowner electrical permit. The
latter isn't easy: when I did that some years back, you had to have your
plans approved by the Board of Electrical Examiners, and before you were
allowed to go before the board you had to pass a 10-question quiz over
the National Electrical Code. Minimum passing score is 7; even after
careful study of the Code, I only managed 6 right, but they gave me a
waiver anyway because all of my errors were on the side of safety (e.g.
What's the minimum size conduit for so many wires of such and such size?
Correct answer was 1 1/4 but I said 1 1/2). The process may have changed
since then, though; call the City-County Building and check.

Outside Marion County, it depends a *lot* on where you are. In Madison
County, for example, within the city limits of Anderson, you can do
whatever you want as long as you get it inspected when you're done;
outside the city limits, nobody cares: no license, no permit, no
inspection, do what you want. Most of Hamilton County is "nobody cares"
territory as well AFAIK (e.g. Noblesville lets anybody do anything
anywhere without a permit or inspection), but I believe things are
different within the Carmel city limits. Generally, the more rural you
get, the less anyone cares. [BTW, this means that some rural properties
are real nightmares. So keep that in mind if you ever move out in the
country.]

Thanks again for all your input. It's really helped me narrow down my
choices. And for all those who asked, her sister is single...


Silvan wrote:
Dave Miller wrote:


Thanks, appreciate all your good advice. And by the way, she does have
a sister...


Yeahbut is her sister married?

You suck, BTW.

I'd probably get the most jointer for the $800 and save the DP for another
day. It's a lot easier to scrape up $300 than $800.

Dave Miller wrote:

Thanks again for all your input. It's really helped me narrow down my
choices. And for all those who asked, her sister is single...

Is she into polygamy? She'd have to share me with SWMBO, but for the right
tools, I'm sure we could work something out. Especially if she cleans
house and/or cooks.

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