Is anyone here a cabinet maker? Does it pay well? Is the job
interesting and satisfying or is it boring? Do you have to work
overtime a lot? Where do you go to train in this field and what kind of
training do you have to get? Is there currently any shortage of cabinet
makers?

wrote:
Is anyone here a cabinet maker? Does it pay well? Is the job
interesting and satisfying or is it boring? Do you have to work
overtime a lot? Where do you go to train in this field and what kind
of
training do you have to get? Is there currently any shortage of
cabinet
makers?

You didn't say where you were from so I'll assume the US. Check out
this link from the US Bureau of Labor Standards.

http://stats.bls.gov/oco/ocos237.htm

wrote:
Is anyone here a cabinet maker? Does it pay well?

It can, I know of one that makes well over $100,000 a year. Depends on how
good you are.


Is the job
interesting and satisfying or is it boring?

This is very subjective. What I find boring you may find excieting. This
goes for fishing, baseball, being a barber, welder, or doctor. Do you want
to work in a productions shop or in a custom shop?


Do you have to work
overtime a lot?

Hmm, sounds like you are looking for minimalist work. Maybe being as
associate at Wal Mark would be more suitable as they barely get 40 hours.


Where do you go to train in this field and what kind of training do you
have to get?

Try the American School of Cabinet Making. Check out apprentice programs.

Is there currently any shortage of cabinet makers?

There is always work for the really good ones.

"Edwin Pawlowski" writes:

Do you have to work
overtime a lot?

Hmm, sounds like you are looking for minimalist work. Maybe being as
associate at Wal Mark would be more suitable as they barely get 40 hours.

What is wrong with not wanting to work over 40 hours a week on a routine
basis?

The government set the normal work week at 40 hours per week for a reason.

Brian Elfert

On 07 Feb 2005 17:06:37 GMT, Brian Elfert wrote:

"Edwin Pawlowski" writes:

Do you have to work
overtime a lot?

Hmm, sounds like you are looking for minimalist work. Maybe being as
associate at Wal Mark would be more suitable as they barely get 40 hours.

What is wrong with not wanting to work over 40 hours a week on a routine
basis?

The government set the normal work week at 40 hours per week for a reason.

Brian Elfert

Oh boy, this is where the thread goes downhill...


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"Brian Elfert" wrote in message
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"Edwin Pawlowski" writes:

Do you have to work
overtime a lot?

Hmm, sounds like you are looking for minimalist work. Maybe being as
associate at Wal Mark would be more suitable as they barely get 40 hours.

What is wrong with not wanting to work over 40 hours a week on a routine
basis?

The government set the normal work week at 40 hours per week for a reason.

Brian Elfert

My interpretation of the question was noted by my answer. Nothing is wrong
with a 40 hour week, but most people considering a specific career don't
look at overtime as a basis for making the decision. That may be a reason to
take or not take a job with a specific company.

What if the linemen that are out in storms to get your electric service back
stopped because they already had their 40 hours in? Sometimes you have to
do what you have to do and do it with honor, not begrudgingly.

Now, you may ask what is the basis for my interpretation. That is based on
my experience. I've hired hundreds of people over many years. I've been
asked questions like, "do I have to work overtime". No you do not have to.
But, based on my experience, young people that ask that are some of the
laziest workers I've ever seen. They want to get paid for 40 hours, they
only want to work 20 or so and try to do just the bare minimum to get by.

FWIW, I don't hire high school dropouts either. While not finishing high
school was common many years ago, it is rarely necessary not to finish.
Again, from experience those that can't make it through 12 years of school
can't make it very well in the working world. (Yes, there are exceptions
but the majority are lazy).

I get applicants all the time that have a line like: I need a job. I
really need a job. I want to work. I have to work to make my car payment.
So then I hire them. 50% never show up, 2% disappear at break time, 40%
last one day.

If you think I'm a workaholic, you are wrong. I'm "at work" for 45 hours a
week. Sometimes I work 45, other times I work much less (like right now).
OTOH, I like being here. To me, it is not work as I have no set hours, come
and go as I please, and work with some very nice people.
Ed

"Edwin Pawlowski" writes:


What if the linemen that are out in storms to get your electric service back
stopped because they already had their 40 hours in? Sometimes you have to
do what you have to do and do it with honor, not begrudgingly.

A lot of jobs have occasional overtime and that wouldn't be an issue for a
lot of people. A job where you are expected to work overtime week in and
week out would get to a lot of people. You might make more money, but you
can never enjoy your money.

The auto industry often offers or requires overtime work. Workers become
used to the extra money and sometimes run into trouble when the overtime
is no longer there.

Brian Elfert

You talk about lazy workers, how about insensitive bosses who couldn't
care less about the health of their workers and make them stand on
their feet for long hours, damaging their health? How about bosses who
treat their workers as if they are machines and simply discard them
when they wear out? All I'm asking for is to work 8 hours on most days
and to get a 15 min break every two hours. If there's going to be many
12 or 16 hour work days that kill my health and/or if the boss doesn't
like you to take breaks , I don't want the job. I've already had my
health damaged by previous jobs and I don't want to go into another job
where the bosses couldn't give a **** about your mental or physical
health and just work the **** out of you until you can't take it
anymore. What's wrong with helping employees stay healthy?

We started a furniture cabinet shop in San Francisco. It was the height of
the boom years but the second year we brought in 150K with one fulltime and
one part time partner. My partner is now running the shop and has two
employees and is doing very well. SF is a hot market with lot's of
designers, architects and money. I didn't find the work appealing. My
partner did.
max

"Edwin Pawlowski" writes:

Do you have to work
overtime a lot?

Hmm, sounds like you are looking for minimalist work. Maybe being as
associate at Wal Mark would be more suitable as they barely get 40 hours.

What is wrong with not wanting to work over 40 hours a week on a routine
basis?

The government set the normal work week at 40 hours per week for a reason.

Brian Elfert