Is there ay tried and tested fast way to join two bits of wood, with out
a joiner?

Thanks

Eddy

That's a broad open-ended question. Maybe you are a candidate for
quick and dirty pocket-hole joinery.

Bob

That's a broad open-ended question. Maybe you are a candidate for
quick and dirty pocket-hole joinery.

Bob

"Eddy" wrote in message
Is there ay tried and tested fast way to join two bits of wood, with out
a joiner?

Aye, there is a "tried and tested fast way" - hire a woodworker.

OTOH, what kind of wood and how do you want to join them? End to end, end to
face, end to edge, edge to edge, edge to face, face to face, sixty nine?

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bluemax responds:


That's a broad open-ended question. Maybe you are a candidate for
quick and dirty pocket-hole joinery.

Or even a couple 16d nails.

Charlie Self
"They want the federal government controlling Social Security like it's some
kind of federal program." George W. Bush, St. Charles, Missouri, November 2,
2000

Straighten the edges with a jointer plane. Takes some technique, but
that's the way they did it in the old days.

Start with a table saw to make sure both edges are as straight as
possible. Then clamp both boards together and plane both edges at the
same time. But they have to be STRAIGHT.

"Charlie Self" wrote in message
...
bluemax responds:


That's a broad open-ended question. Maybe you are a candidate for
quick and dirty pocket-hole joinery.

Or even a couple 16d nails.

Of course that presents another set of criteria.
1. Galvanized?
2. Common or Box?
3. Finish or Sinker head?

SH

Slowhand asks:


"Charlie Self" wrote in message
...
bluemax responds:


That's a broad open-ended question. Maybe you are a candidate for
quick and dirty pocket-hole joinery.

Or even a couple 16d nails.

Of course that presents another set of criteria.
1. Galvanized?
2. Common or Box?
3. Finish or Sinker head

Or scaffold.

Charlie Self
"They want the federal government controlling Social Security like it's some
kind of federal program." George W. Bush, St. Charles, Missouri, November 2,
2000

"Charlie Self" wrote in message
Slowhand asks:


"Charlie Self" wrote in message
...
bluemax responds:


That's a broad open-ended question. Maybe you are a candidate for
quick and dirty pocket-hole joinery.

Or even a couple 16d nails.

Of course that presents another set of criteria.
1. Galvanized?
2. Common or Box?
3. Finish or Sinker head

Or scaffold.

smooth or ring shank?

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On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 11:06:02 -0800, "Slowhand" I'm@work wrote:


Of course that presents another set of criteria.
1. Galvanized?
2. Common or Box?
3. Finish or Sinker head?


And then the question is do you buy a cheap hammer at
Sears or HF, or do you need a hand-crafted one forged
from uranium-depleted material with an ironwood handle ?

or Holy matrimony -- assuming they are opposite sex. (or then again --
maybe not these days)

Charlie Self wrote:
bluemax responds:


That's a broad open-ended question. Maybe you are a candidate for
quick and dirty pocket-hole joinery.


Or even a couple 16d nails.

Charlie Self
"They want the federal government controlling Social Security like it's some
kind of federal program." George W. Bush, St. Charles, Missouri, November 2,
2000

--
Will
Occasional Techno-geek

Swingman asks:

"Charlie Self" wrote in message
Slowhand asks:


"Charlie Self" wrote in message
...
bluemax responds:


That's a broad open-ended question. Maybe you are a candidate for
quick and dirty pocket-hole joinery.

Or even a couple 16d nails.

Of course that presents another set of criteria.
1. Galvanized?
2. Common or Box?
3. Finish or Sinker head

Or scaffold.

smooth or ring shank?

Ah, well scaffold nails are meant to be pulled, so I'd like smooth shanks.

Charlie Self
"They want the federal government controlling Social Security like it's some
kind of federal program." George W. Bush, St. Charles, Missouri, November 2,
2000

Geoff wrote:
Straighten the edges with a jointer plane. Takes some technique, but
that's the way they did it in the old days.

Start with a table saw to make sure both edges are as straight as
possible. Then clamp both boards together and plane both edges at the
same time. But they have to be STRAIGHT.


Thanks Geoff!

And to the rest if you lot!, sorry I asked!.

Eddy

Folks on a roll snipped

Or scaffold.

smooth or ring shank?

Ah, well scaffold nails are meant to be pulled, so I'd like smooth shanks.

Picky, ain't 'cha? VBG
Tom

Or at complimentary angles (Flipping one piece end for end)... resulting in
parallel sides.
Tom
"Geoff" wrote in message
ups.com...
Straighten the edges with a jointer plane. Takes some technique, but
that's the way they did it in the old days.

Start with a table saw to make sure both edges are as straight as
possible. Then clamp both boards together and plane both edges at the
same time. But they have to be STRAIGHT.

6" pole barn spikes driven with a 27oz hammer hold very well. --dave

"Geoff" wrote in message
ups.com...
Straighten the edges with a jointer plane. Takes some technique, but
that's the way they did it in the old days.

Start with a table saw to make sure both edges are as straight as
possible. Then clamp both boards together and plane both edges at the
same time. But they have to be STRAIGHT.

"Charlie Self" wrote in message
...
Swingman asks:

"Charlie Self" wrote in message
Slowhand asks:


"Charlie Self" wrote in message
...
bluemax responds:


That's a broad open-ended question. Maybe you are a candidate for
quick and dirty pocket-hole joinery.

Or even a couple 16d nails.

Of course that presents another set of criteria.
1. Galvanized?
2. Common or Box?
3. Finish or Sinker head

Or scaffold.

smooth or ring shank?

Ah, well scaffold nails are meant to be pulled, so I'd like smooth shanks.

I'd never heard of a scaffold nail. Here in O-ree-gone we call them duplex
nails. Or the slang "dupes".
SH

Slowhand responds:

That's a broad open-ended question. Maybe you are a candidate for
quick and dirty pocket-hole joinery.

Or even a couple 16d nails.

Of course that presents another set of criteria.
1. Galvanized?
2. Common or Box?
3. Finish or Sinker head

Or scaffold.

smooth or ring shank?

Ah, well scaffold nails are meant to be pulled, so I'd like smooth shanks.

I'd never heard of a scaffold nail. Here in O-ree-gone we call them duplex
nails. Or the slang "dupes".
SH

Ah, well. The news had to get there sooner or later. First time I heard them
called scaffold nails was some time around '56, while--oddly enough--getting
ready to build a scaffold. My boss sent me off to get some, with me thinking it
was a new version of a left-handed monkey wrench search. It wasn't.

Charlie Self
"I think we agree, the past is over." George W. Bush

GregP wrote:
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 11:06:02 -0800, "Slowhand" I'm@work wrote:


Of course that presents another set of criteria.
1. Galvanized?
2. Common or Box?
3. Finish or Sinker head?


And then the question is do you buy a cheap hammer at
Sears or HF, or do you need a hand-crafted one forged
from uranium-depleted material with an ironwood handle ?

I got one on ebay. Overrated.

FoggyTown

In article ,
Charlie Self wrote:
Slowhand responds:

That's a broad open-ended question. Maybe you are a candidate for
quick and dirty pocket-hole joinery.

Or even a couple 16d nails.

Of course that presents another set of criteria.
1. Galvanized?
2. Common or Box?
3. Finish or Sinker head

Or scaffold.

smooth or ring shank?

Ah, well scaffold nails are meant to be pulled, so I'd like smooth shanks.

I'd never heard of a scaffold nail. Here in O-ree-gone we call them duplex
nails. Or the slang "dupes".
SH

Ah, well. The news had to get there sooner or later. First time I heard them
called scaffold nails was some time around '56, while--oddly enough--getting
ready to build a scaffold. My boss sent me off to get some, with me thinking it
was a new version of a left-handed monkey wrench search. It wasn't.

And left-handed monkey wrenches actually *do* exist, too.

I've got one in my toolbox.

left-hand thread on the adjustable jaw.

"Charlie Self" wrote in message
...
Slowhand responds:

That's a broad open-ended question. Maybe you are a candidate for
quick and dirty pocket-hole joinery.

Or even a couple 16d nails.

Of course that presents another set of criteria.
1. Galvanized?
2. Common or Box?
3. Finish or Sinker head

Or scaffold.

smooth or ring shank?

Ah, well scaffold nails are meant to be pulled, so I'd like smooth
shanks.

I'd never heard of a scaffold nail. Here in O-ree-gone we call them
duplex
nails. Or the slang "dupes".
SH

Ah, well. The news had to get there sooner or later. First time I heard
them
called scaffold nails was some time around '56, while--oddly
enough--getting
ready to build a scaffold. My boss sent me off to get some, with me
thinking it
was a new version of a left-handed monkey wrench search. It wasn't.

Reminds me of a search I sent an apprentice carpenter off for so he wouldn't
bug me.

We were stripping a bunch of sidewalk forms. I told the young apprenctice
to go to the job shack and get the 5 gallon bucket of form-off. He looked
and looked and finally asked the superintendent where it was.

He came back with a sheepish grin and said the superintendent was ordering a
bucket of f***-off for me.
SH

Robert Bonomi wrote:
In article ,
Charlie Self wrote:

Slowhand responds:


That's a broad open-ended question. Maybe you are a candidate for
quick and dirty pocket-hole joinery.

Or even a couple 16d nails.

Of course that presents another set of criteria.
1. Galvanized?
2. Common or Box?
3. Finish or Sinker head

Or scaffold.

smooth or ring shank?

Ah, well scaffold nails are meant to be pulled, so I'd like smooth shanks.

I'd never heard of a scaffold nail. Here in O-ree-gone we call them duplex
nails. Or the slang "dupes".
SH

Ah, well. The news had to get there sooner or later. First time I heard them
called scaffold nails was some time around '56, while--oddly enough--getting
ready to build a scaffold. My boss sent me off to get some, with me thinking it
was a new version of a left-handed monkey wrench search. It wasn't.


And left-handed monkey wrenches actually *do* exist, too.

I've got one in my toolbox.

left-hand thread on the adjustable jaw.


I always thought the teeth on the jaws were cut opposite so they
bit in when lifting. Guy I worked with,in the Navy, supposedly
was sent to get one. He was the type of guy that deserved it at
the time. He had a friend who found them in a set, special order
of course, for the price of a small car at the time. Early 70's.
Took the chit back to have it initialed. His boss thought the
supply guy was helping him out so he signed it. Guy I knew was
transferred to another work center when they arrived.
Joe

"Charlie Self" wrote in message

Ah, well. The news had to get there sooner or later. First time I heard
them
called scaffold nails was some time around '56, while--oddly
enough--getting
ready to build a scaffold. My boss sent me off to get some, with me
thinking it
was a new version of a left-handed monkey wrench search. It wasn't.

Many folks call them "form" nails down here, but most everyone also knows
them by "duplex" nails.

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In article ,
Joe Gorman wrote:
Robert Bonomi wrote:
In article ,
Charlie Self wrote:

Slowhand responds:


That's a broad open-ended question. Maybe you are a candidate for
quick and dirty pocket-hole joinery.

Or even a couple 16d nails.

Of course that presents another set of criteria.
1. Galvanized?
2. Common or Box?
3. Finish or Sinker head

Or scaffold.

smooth or ring shank?

Ah, well scaffold nails are meant to be pulled, so I'd like smooth shanks.

I'd never heard of a scaffold nail. Here in O-ree-gone we call them duplex
nails. Or the slang "dupes".
SH

Ah, well. The news had to get there sooner or later. First time I heard them
called scaffold nails was some time around '56, while--oddly enough--getting
ready to build a scaffold. My boss sent me off to get some, with me
thinking it
was a new version of a left-handed monkey wrench search. It wasn't.


And left-handed monkey wrenches actually *do* exist, too.

I've got one in my toolbox.


left-hand thread on the adjustable jaw.


I always thought the teeth on the jaws were cut opposite so they
bit in when lifting.

You apparently don't know the difference between a "pipe wrench" and
a "monkey wrench".

A monkey wrench does _not_ have any 'teeth' on the jaws. It's used
for gripping _flats_, (parallel surfaces, like the faces of hex-head bolts,
or nuts.)

Guy I worked with,in the Navy, supposedly
was sent to get one. He was the type of guy that deserved it at
the time. He had a friend who found them in a set, special order
of course, for the price of a small car at the time. Early 70's.
Took the chit back to have it initialed. His boss thought the
supply guy was helping him out so he signed it. Guy I knew was
transferred to another work center when they arrived.
Joe

There's the story from some Army base, about the FNG that gets sent on
one of those hunts -- striped paint, I think this was -- who goes down
to the Motor Pool, tells the Sargent there that "Lieutenant So-and-so
sent me for some striped paint; there doesn't seem to be any on base,
can I get a jeep to go into town for some?" Sarge goes along with the
gag, and signs him out a jeep. And off he goes. Gets back _just_ before
Lights Out -- w/o any paint (of course). Sarge, in a fatherly mood,
attempts to explain: "Son, you know there *isn't* any such thing as striped
paint." To which the kid replies, in a somewhat superior tone of voice:
"Sure, Sarge, I knew *that*. But I got out of that work detail, the use
of a jeep, *and* got into town for the day, didn't I?

Robert Bonomi wrote:
In article ,
Joe Gorman wrote:

Robert Bonomi wrote:

In article ,
Charlie Self wrote:


Slowhand responds:



That's a broad open-ended question. Maybe you are a candidate for
quick and dirty pocket-hole joinery.

Or even a couple 16d nails.

Of course that presents another set of criteria.
1. Galvanized?
2. Common or Box?
3. Finish or Sinker head

Or scaffold.

smooth or ring shank?

Ah, well scaffold nails are meant to be pulled, so I'd like smooth shanks.

I'd never heard of a scaffold nail. Here in O-ree-gone we call them duplex
nails. Or the slang "dupes".
SH

Ah, well. The news had to get there sooner or later. First time I heard them
called scaffold nails was some time around '56, while--oddly enough--getting
ready to build a scaffold. My boss sent me off to get some, with me

thinking it

was a new version of a left-handed monkey wrench search. It wasn't.


And left-handed monkey wrenches actually *do* exist, too.

I've got one in my toolbox.


left-hand thread on the adjustable jaw.


I always thought the teeth on the jaws were cut opposite so they
bit in when lifting.


You apparently don't know the difference between a "pipe wrench" and
a "monkey wrench".

A monkey wrench does _not_ have any 'teeth' on the jaws. It's used
for gripping _flats_, (parallel surfaces, like the faces of hex-head bolts,
or nuts.)

OK, so what's the purpose of the left handed threads?

In article ,
Joe Gorman wrote:
Robert Bonomi wrote:
In article ,
Joe Gorman wrote:

Robert Bonomi wrote:

In article ,
Charlie Self wrote:


Slowhand responds:



That's a broad open-ended question. Maybe you are a candidate for
quick and dirty pocket-hole joinery.

Or even a couple 16d nails.

Of course that presents another set of criteria.
1. Galvanized?
2. Common or Box?
3. Finish or Sinker head

Or scaffold.

smooth or ring shank?

Ah, well scaffold nails are meant to be pulled, so I'd like smooth shanks.

I'd never heard of a scaffold nail. Here in O-ree-gone we call
them duplex
nails. Or the slang "dupes".
SH

Ah, well. The news had to get there sooner or later. First time I heard them
called scaffold nails was some time around '56, while--oddly enough--getting
ready to build a scaffold. My boss sent me off to get some, with me

thinking it

was a new version of a left-handed monkey wrench search. It wasn't.


And left-handed monkey wrenches actually *do* exist, too.

I've got one in my toolbox.


left-hand thread on the adjustable jaw.


I always thought the teeth on the jaws were cut opposite so they
bit in when lifting.


You apparently don't know the difference between a "pipe wrench" and
a "monkey wrench".

A monkey wrench does _not_ have any 'teeth' on the jaws. It's used
for gripping _flats_, (parallel surfaces, like the faces of hex-head bolts,
or nuts.)

OK, so what's the purpose of the left handed threads?

Take your pick:
1) hybrid of rhinoceros and elephant --- i.e. 'elephino'.
2) discourages others from 'borrowing' it
3) Gag gift value
4) feels more 'natural' for a south-paw

In truth, "I dunno" applies, It came from my grandfather's toolbox, to my
father's, and thence to mine.

Granddad was chief maintainence engineer for a large mine, in northern Idaho,
It's possible he may have _made_ that wrench -- again, "I dunno" applies.

Robert Bonomi wrote:
In article ,
Joe Gorman wrote:

Robert Bonomi wrote:

In article ,
Joe Gorman wrote:


Robert Bonomi wrote:


In article ,
Charlie Self wrote:



Slowhand responds:




That's a broad open-ended question. Maybe you are a candidate for
quick and dirty pocket-hole joinery.

Or even a couple 16d nails.

Of course that presents another set of criteria.
1. Galvanized?
2. Common or Box?
3. Finish or Sinker head

Or scaffold.

smooth or ring shank?

Ah, well scaffold nails are meant to be pulled, so I'd like smooth shanks.

I'd never heard of a scaffold nail. Here in O-ree-gone we call

them duplex

nails. Or the slang "dupes".
SH

Ah, well. The news had to get there sooner or later. First time I heard them
called scaffold nails was some time around '56, while--oddly enough--getting
ready to build a scaffold. My boss sent me off to get some, with me

thinking it


was a new version of a left-handed monkey wrench search. It wasn't.


And left-handed monkey wrenches actually *do* exist, too.

I've got one in my toolbox.


left-hand thread on the adjustable jaw.


I always thought the teeth on the jaws were cut opposite so they
bit in when lifting.


You apparently don't know the difference between a "pipe wrench" and
a "monkey wrench".

A monkey wrench does _not_ have any 'teeth' on the jaws. It's used
for gripping _flats_, (parallel surfaces, like the faces of hex-head bolts,
or nuts.)


OK, so what's the purpose of the left handed threads?


Take your pick:
1) hybrid of rhinoceros and elephant --- i.e. 'elephino'.
2) discourages others from 'borrowing' it
3) Gag gift value
4) feels more 'natural' for a south-paw

In truth, "I dunno" applies, It came from my grandfather's toolbox, to my
father's, and thence to mine.

Granddad was chief maintainence engineer for a large mine, in northern Idaho,
It's possible he may have _made_ that wrench -- again, "I dunno" applies.


Good enough. Being left handed, mostly, 4 sounds good.
Joe

Tried and tested - Super glue