I am refurbishing an old rectangular bass case to use for another
guitar. I'm at the point where I'm almost ready to put new vinyl on the
outside and new lining and padding on the inside. I know that I need to
have a smooth surface to glue the fabrics to, but is it important to
get every bit of the old glue off the wood, or can I just sand it
smooth and reglue. Most of the glue is gone, but there are a few spots,
particularly along the edges of the insides of the shell where it
curves, that have a pretty good glue accumulation. Thanks.

--
Mark Davis
San Angelo, TX

"Mark Davis" wrote in message
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I am refurbishing an old rectangular bass case to use for another
guitar. I'm at the point where I'm almost ready to put new vinyl on the
outside and new lining and padding on the inside. I know that I need to
have a smooth surface to glue the fabrics to, but is it important to
get every bit of the old glue off the wood, or can I just sand it
smooth and reglue. Most of the glue is gone, but there are a few spots,
particularly along the edges of the insides of the shell where it
curves, that have a pretty good glue accumulation. Thanks.


If you use a contact cement Mark, you don't need to get every bit off. Do
be careful though and get it perfectly flat. Every minor imperfection in
your surface is going to telegraph through the new vinyl.
--

-Mike-

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"Mike Marlow" wrote:

"Mark Davis" wrote in message
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I am refurbishing an old rectangular bass case to use for another
guitar. I'm at the point where I'm almost ready to put new vinyl on the
outside and new lining and padding on the inside. I know that I need to
have a smooth surface to glue the fabrics to, but is it important to
get every bit of the old glue off the wood, or can I just sand it
smooth and reglue. Most of the glue is gone, but there are a few spots,
particularly along the edges of the insides of the shell where it
curves, that have a pretty good glue accumulation. Thanks.


If you use a contact cement Mark, you don't need to get every bit off. Do
be careful though and get it perfectly flat. Every minor imperfection in
your surface is going to telegraph through the new vinyl.

Mike,
I refurbished a 1930's banjo case a few years ago and I can offer the
following.
Get Tolex from Stumac for covering the outside. Sand the whole surface
thoroughly as any slight mark or dust speck will be magnified through
the covering.
Use HIDE glue. Apply glue hot and use a warm clothes iron with light
pressure to smooth covering and also remove wrinkles around curves.
Don't be afraid to cut darts to allow tight radius curves.
Try to use original edge treatment around lid and case.
I figured that the amount of labour I put in and the materials, I ended
up with a $1000 case. It was worth it and made me appreciate the skill
used by the original maker probably in a sweat shop somewhere in the US

--
meet me at: http://www.peterhyde.bravehost.com/

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Mike,
I refurbished a 1930's banjo case a few years ago and I can offer the
following.
Get Tolex from Stumac for covering the outside. Sand the whole surface
thoroughly as any slight mark or dust speck will be magnified through
the covering.
Use HIDE glue. Apply glue hot and use a warm clothes iron with light
pressure to smooth covering and also remove wrinkles around curves.

I've never used Hide glue but with all of the threads on this stuff lately,
I may try something that uses it just for the heck of it.


--

-Mike-

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wrote:

"Mark Davis" wrote in message
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I am refurbishing an old rectangular bass case to use for another
guitar. I'm at the point where I'm almost ready to put new vinyl on the
outside and new lining and padding on the inside. I know that I need to
have a smooth surface to glue the fabrics to, but is it important to
get every bit of the old glue off the wood, or can I just sand it
smooth and reglue. Most of the glue is gone, but there are a few spots,
particularly along the edges of the insides of the shell where it
curves, that have a pretty good glue accumulation. Thanks.


If you use a contact cement Mark, you don't need to get every bit off. Do
be careful though and get it perfectly flat. Every minor imperfection in
your surface is going to telegraph through the new vinyl.

I'm a little apprehensive about using contact cement. I have concerns
that the fumes could get into the case and possibly damage the finish
on the guitar. Is this a legitimate worry? Thanks.

--
Mark Davis
San Angelo, TX

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Hyde wrote:

In article ,
"Mike Marlow" wrote:

"Mark Davis" wrote in message
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I am refurbishing an old rectangular bass case to use for another
guitar. I'm at the point where I'm almost ready to put new vinyl on the
outside and new lining and padding on the inside. I know that I need to
have a smooth surface to glue the fabrics to, but is it important to
get every bit of the old glue off the wood, or can I just sand it
smooth and reglue. Most of the glue is gone, but there are a few spots,
particularly along the edges of the insides of the shell where it
curves, that have a pretty good glue accumulation. Thanks.


If you use a contact cement Mark, you don't need to get every bit off. Do
be careful though and get it perfectly flat. Every minor imperfection in
your surface is going to telegraph through the new vinyl.

Mike,
I refurbished a 1930's banjo case a few years ago and I can offer the
following.
Get Tolex from Stumac for covering the outside. Sand the whole surface
thoroughly as any slight mark or dust speck will be magnified through
the covering.
Use HIDE glue. Apply glue hot and use a warm clothes iron with light
pressure to smooth covering and also remove wrinkles around curves.
Don't be afraid to cut darts to allow tight radius curves.
Try to use original edge treatment around lid and case.
I figured that the amount of labour I put in and the materials, I ended
up with a $1000 case. It was worth it and made me appreciate the skill
used by the original maker probably in a sweat shop somewhere in the US

I have ordered Tolex from ampwares.com. I found some flannel material
at Hobby Lobby for the inner lining. Did you also use hide glue for the
inner lining? Thanks.

--
Mark Davis
San Angelo, TX

"Mark Davis" wrote in message
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wrote:

"Mark Davis" wrote in message
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I am refurbishing an old rectangular bass case to use for another
guitar. I'm at the point where I'm almost ready to put new vinyl on
the
outside and new lining and padding on the inside. I know that I need
to
have a smooth surface to glue the fabrics to, but is it important to
get every bit of the old glue off the wood, or can I just sand it
smooth and reglue. Most of the glue is gone, but there are a few
spots,
particularly along the edges of the insides of the shell where it
curves, that have a pretty good glue accumulation. Thanks.


If you use a contact cement Mark, you don't need to get every bit off.
Do
be careful though and get it perfectly flat. Every minor imperfection
in
your surface is going to telegraph through the new vinyl.

I'm a little apprehensive about using contact cement. I have concerns
that the fumes could get into the case and possibly damage the finish
on the guitar. Is this a legitimate worry? Thanks.


I've not heard of such a thing posing a problem Mark. Contact cement is
used around wood finishes all of the time. You could always let it air well
for a few days before putting the guitar in it. Our of curiosity - what
kind of guitar?
--

-Mike-

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"Mark Davis" wrote in message
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In article , Mike Marlow
wrote:

"Mark Davis" wrote in message
...
I am refurbishing an old rectangular bass case to use for another
guitar. I'm at the point where I'm almost ready to put new vinyl on
the
outside and new lining and padding on the inside. I know that I need
to
have a smooth surface to glue the fabrics to, but is it important to
get every bit of the old glue off the wood, or can I just sand it
smooth and reglue. Most of the glue is gone, but there are a few
spots,
particularly along the edges of the insides of the shell where it
curves, that have a pretty good glue accumulation. Thanks.


If you use a contact cement Mark, you don't need to get every bit off.
Do
be careful though and get it perfectly flat. Every minor imperfection
in
your surface is going to telegraph through the new vinyl.

I'm a little apprehensive about using contact cement. I have concerns
that the fumes could get into the case and possibly damage the finish
on the guitar. Is this a legitimate worry? Thanks.


I've not heard of such a thing posing a problem Mark. Contact cement is
used around wood finishes all of the time. You could always let it air well
for a few days before putting the guitar in it. Our of curiosity - what
kind of guitar?

A really cheap one: a Mako Exotec XK-4. I've replaced the pickups. You
can see pictures at
http://home1.gte.net/res006gg/html/mark/guitar7.html

Thanks for all your help.

--
Mark Davis
San Angelo, TX

"Mark Davis" wrote in message
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A really cheap one: a Mako Exotec XK-4. I've replaced the pickups. You
can see pictures at
http://home1.gte.net/res006gg/html/mark/guitar7.html


Hey - a clear case of GAS. You better get that looked at doc. Nice
collection. I used to have a smaller collection of guitars that in one way
or another meant something to me, but... Well, the but about it is really
that I agreed with the wife that I'd get a high end electric and a high end
acoustic, and I'd sell of everything else. So I did. Quite a while ago.
Since then my son has left a Jackson here to be adopted by me but my wife
hasn't figured out that it has really found a home here now. I'm not much
for Jacksons, but for some stuff it does put out a pretty gnarly sound. I
wouldn't have bought this guitar myself, but since it came along the way it
did, I'll keep it. My real electric is from a small manufacturer in N.
Carolina
(http://www.mcinturffguitars.com/06-G...ryStandard.asp)
, and my acoustic is a Taylor 710CE. It was worth my side of the bargain
with the wife to own these guitars. Heck, now I can even get away with
leaving one out on the couch in the living room for a short time, after I'm
done playing.

--

-Mike-