Hello seasons greetings for all members.
I am new to your group.
I like to learn from the experience of members about making liquid hide
glue.No branded liquid glue is available here in my and nearby
cities.Hide glue is available. SaeedCh

Tue, Jan 18, 2005, 6:53pm (EST-3) (SaeedCh) claims:
Hello seasons greetings for all members. I am new to your group.
I like to learn from the experience of members about making liquid hide
glue.No branded liquid glue is available here in my and nearby
cities.Hide glue is available. =A0 =A0 SaeedCh

Seems pretty farfetched, no glue available, except hide glue.
Where are you located?



JOAT
Charity ain't giving people what you wants to give, it's giving people
what they need to get.
- Albert

On Wednesday 19 Jan 2005 2:53 am, SaeedCh scribbled:

Hello seasons greetings for all members.
I am new to your group.
I like to learn from the experience of members about making liquid
hide glue.No branded liquid glue is available here in my and nearby
cities.Hide glue is available. SaeedCh

Hide glue is typically melted in a glue pot and applied hot. For some
detailed instructions, you could go to:

http://www.frets.com/FRETSPages/Luth...hideglue1.html

or any number of luthier sites you can easily find on Google.

In North America, we can also get liquid hide glue commercially, but I
have no idea how they make it.

Here in the Yukon, we also use water the same way as a wood glue. Melt
it, apply it to the wood, clamp it, leave it outside and in a few hours
and then it is impossible to take apart. Stonger than the wood. :-)

--
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yknet dot ca
www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/humour.html
www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/antifaq.html

I am near lahore.Various glues are available but are not of animal
origin.I want to make liquid hide glue to use it
easily.Thankyou.SaeedCh
J T wrote:
Tue, Jan 18, 2005, 6:53pm (EST-3) (SaeedCh)
claims:
Hello seasons greetings for all members. I am new to your group.
I like to learn from the experience of members about making liquid
hide
glue.No branded liquid glue is available here in my and nearby
cities.Hide glue is available. SaeedCh

Seems pretty farfetched, no glue available, except hide glue.
Where are you located?



JOAT
Charity ain't giving people what you wants to give, it's giving
people
what they need to get.
- Albert

Wed, Jan 19, 2005, 7:45pm (EST-3) (SaeedCh) says:
I am near lahore.Various glues are available but are not of animal
origin.I want to make liquid hide glue to use it easily.Thankyou.SaeedCh

Well, here's instructions for making hide glue, from scratch, which
is what Iake it you want to do:
http://www.uqac.uquebec.ca/PleinAir/toolsgl1.htm

This site has a LOT on using it:
http://www.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu:808...ubmit_thread=1

I take it you're going to use it for woodworking. What type of
woodworking?



JOAT
Charity ain't giving people what you wants to give, it's giving people
what they need to get.
- Albert

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:14:57 -0500, (J T)
wrote:

Wed, Jan 19, 2005, 7:45pm (EST-3) (SaeedCh) says:
I am near lahore.Various glues are available but are not of animal
origin.I want to make liquid hide glue to use it easily.Thankyou.SaeedCh

Well, here's instructions for making hide glue, from scratch, which
is what Iake it you want to do:
http://www.uqac.uquebec.ca/PleinAir/toolsgl1.htm

This site has a LOT on using it:
http://www.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu:808...ubmit_thread=1

I take it you're going to use it for woodworking. What type of
woodworking?



JOAT
Charity ain't giving people what you wants to give, it's giving people
what they need to get.
- Albert

You can make hide glue by cutting rawhide into tiny pieces and cooking
it gently with water until it becomes thick and vicsous. Strain it,
pour it onto a metal sheet and alow it to dry. Then flake it off and
pound the larger chunks down to a convenient size.

Result: hide glue.

Here's a method from a Web site: (note that vellum is pretty much the
same as rawhide for our purposes)

If you want to make your own hide glue to use in gesso, or for other
projects, it is easy enough to do.

4 ounces of vellum scraps
2 pints of distilled water
a small enamel pot
piece of loosely woven cloth (to use as strainer)
bowl – can be disposable plastic

Bring the water to a boil then reduce the heat to simmer and add the
vellum scraps. Do not let the water boil once the vellum is added to
it. This will reduce the effectiveness of the resulting glue. Allow
this to simmer for one and a half hours (about half of the water will
evaporate). Remove the pan from the heat and allow it to cool
slightly. Strain it through a plain white piece of loosely woven cloth
into a clean bowl. Let the glue to sit at room temperature in a cool,
dry place out of direct sunlight overnight. It will congeal into a
jelly. Turn the bowl upside down and remove the jelly onto a piece of
plastic wrap. Slice the jelly into ¼ inch slices and allow to dry out
of sunlight. This will take several days.

To use the glue: take a slice or two of the dried glue and warm it in
a bit of water. You can do this in a small metal or ceramic dish over
a candle or on a stove burner. Once again do not allow it to come to a
boil or it will be useless as glue.
"Sometimes history doesn't repeat itself. It just yells
'can't you remember anything I've told you?' and lets
fly with a club.
-- John W. Cambell Jr.

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:56:18 GMT, wrote:

You can make hide glue by cutting rawhide into tiny pieces and cooking
it gently with water until it becomes thick and vicsous.

I was warned off this for archival work and told to always work with
fresh hide, not dried rawhide. Rawhide isn't entirely "raw".

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 01:03:42 +0000, Andy Dingley
wrote:

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:56:18 GMT, wrote:

You can make hide glue by cutting rawhide into tiny pieces and cooking
it gently with water until it becomes thick and vicsous.

I was warned off this for archival work and told to always work with
fresh hide, not dried rawhide. Rawhide isn't entirely "raw".

For archival work, perhaps. But I don't think it matters for
carpentry/cabinetmaking. However if you can get fresh, de-fleshed and
de-haired hide, then by all means use it.

--RC
"Sometimes history doesn't repeat itself. It just yells
'can't you remember anything I've told you?' and lets
fly with a club.
-- John W. Cambell Jr.

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 01:48:03 GMT, wrote:

For archival work, perhaps. But I don't think it matters for
carpentry/cabinetmaking.

Sorry, not "archival". I meant restoration work on quality stuff, but
woodwork not books.

No-one has been fool enough to let me loose on them yet, but there's a
17th century oak chest that needs a few replacement decorative split
turnings making for it. I'm thinking of hide glue rather than wax as
an adhesive.

Also some sword work (I've never worked on anything before 1800 before
8-) ), but that's rice glue.

SaeedCh wrote:

I am near lahore.Various glues are available but are not of animal
origin.I want to make liquid hide glue to use it
easily.

So the problem is that you can't get commercially-prepared liquid hide glue
in Pakistan?

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I know glue making in detail as I served for 20 years in a quality hide
glue factory in a senior position.The problum is to make liquid hide
glue to avoid daily heating.

I know glue making in detail as I served for 20 years in a quality hide
glue factory in a senior position.The problum is to make liquid hide
glue to avoid daily heating for making furniture..

yes of course you undrstand the problum.

Fri, Jan 21, 2005, 11:01pm (EST-3) (SaeedCh) says:
I know glue making in detail as I served for 20 years in a quality hide
glue factory in a senior position.The problum is to make liquid hide
glue to avoid daily heating.

Ah. I don't know how to make it either, altho it might be on the
web, somewhere.
But, would milk (caesin) glue work for you instead? There are
recipes for that on the web.

I don't think I ever read what you want to glue.



JOAT
Charity ain't giving people what you wants to give, it's giving people
what they need to get.
- Albert

Thankyou JOAT,SILVAN,and ANDY for your response.The others are
discussing Kippling under the title Liquid Hide Glue.See You Again.
SaeedCh