Well, she who must... is playing music in a couple of groups, and as they're
none of them getting any younger, they print up their music on large sheets
(they end up at 11" x 14" after trimming) so they can read those teeny dots.

As you can imagine, there are no binders made that fit paper that size. I
figure that it ought to be reasonably easy to make up a binder big enough to
carry the stuff, but I've run into one minor problem.

I can't find anyone that sells good quality 3-ring binder mechanisms. You
know the kind, probably date from the same era as the pencil sharpener
discussed here a little while ago. Three rings, trigger top and bottom, the
ring halves meet smoothly, etc. Has to be round rings, and 1" diameter is
big enough.

Does anyone have any ideas where these can be found?

Dave O'Heare
oheareATmagmaDOTca

"Dave O'Heare" oheareATmagmaDOTca wrote in message
news

Does anyone have any ideas where these can be found?

I found several suppliers in 10 seconds with a Google search for "3 Ring
Binder mechanisms".

Let your fingers do the walking.

Bob

"Dave O'Heare" oheareATmagmaDOTca wrote in message
news

Well, she who must... is playing music in a couple of groups, and as
they're
none of them getting any younger, they print up their music on large
sheets
(they end up at 11" x 14" after trimming) so they can read those teeny
dots.

As you can imagine, there are no binders made that fit paper that size. I
figure that it ought to be reasonably easy to make up a binder big enough
to
carry the stuff, but I've run into one minor problem.

I can't find anyone that sells good quality 3-ring binder mechanisms. You
know the kind, probably date from the same era as the pencil sharpener
discussed here a little while ago. Three rings, trigger top and bottom,
the
ring halves meet smoothly, etc. Has to be round rings, and 1" diameter is
big enough.

Does anyone have any ideas where these can be found?

Dave O'Heare
oheareATmagmaDOTca



Why not just pick up a few at Staples and drill the rivets out and then use
the mechanism for the binders you make?
--

-Mike-

A quick Google search for "3 ring binder hardware" provided at least one
source,
http://www.tandyleather.com/products.asp?dept=144

This is the parent company of Radio Shack. They have the hardware for 8.5 x
11 paper, which would technically work with the legal size paper.

Another potential is http://www.binderfinder.com
This company makes all sorts of binders, even ones out of maple.

A "plan B" source is to buy cheap binders from an office supply house and
drill out the hardware to be recycled in your wooden holder.

Dave Paine

"Dave O'Heare" oheareATmagmaDOTca wrote in message
news

Well, she who must... is playing music in a couple of groups, and as
they're
none of them getting any younger, they print up their music on large
sheets
(they end up at 11" x 14" after trimming) so they can read those teeny
dots.

As you can imagine, there are no binders made that fit paper that size. I
figure that it ought to be reasonably easy to make up a binder big enough
to
carry the stuff, but I've run into one minor problem.

I can't find anyone that sells good quality 3-ring binder mechanisms. You
know the kind, probably date from the same era as the pencil sharpener
discussed here a little while ago. Three rings, trigger top and bottom,
the
ring halves meet smoothly, etc. Has to be round rings, and 1" diameter is
big enough.

Does anyone have any ideas where these can be found?

Dave O'Heare
oheareATmagmaDOTca

Go to a thrift store, buy a binder for about 50 cents with a good mechanism
and drill out the rivets holding the mechanism to the binding. Problem
solved. Cheap.

--

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.


"Dave O'Heare" oheareATmagmaDOTca wrote in message
news

Well, she who must... is playing music in a couple of groups, and as
they're
none of them getting any younger, they print up their music on large
sheets
(they end up at 11" x 14" after trimming) so they can read those teeny
dots.

As you can imagine, there are no binders made that fit paper that size. I
figure that it ought to be reasonably easy to make up a binder big enough
to
carry the stuff, but I've run into one minor problem.

I can't find anyone that sells good quality 3-ring binder mechanisms. You
know the kind, probably date from the same era as the pencil sharpener
discussed here a little while ago. Three rings, trigger top and bottom,
the
ring halves meet smoothly, etc. Has to be round rings, and 1" diameter is
big enough.

Does anyone have any ideas where these can be found?

Dave O'Heare
oheareATmagmaDOTca

In article , "Dave O'Heare" oheareATmagmaDOTca wrote:

Well, she who must... is playing music in a couple of groups, and as they're
none of them getting any younger, they print up their music on large sheets
(they end up at 11" x 14" after trimming) so they can read those teeny dots.

As you can imagine, there are no binders made that fit paper that size.

Yes, there are. You just haven't looked very hard.

http://www.columbialooseleaf.com/fle...inder_2000.htm
Item # 2109 (1" rings) or 2209 (1 1/2" rings)

Moreover, standard 132-column computer paper is 11 x 14 7/8, and you can find
*plenty* of binders to fit that size. Here's one example:

http://www.shoplet.com/office/db/ACC59273.html

Try a Google search for
"ring binder" 11x14
and you should find a boatload of them.

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Dave O'Heare wrote:

Well, she who must... is playing music in a couple of groups, and as they're
none of them getting any younger, they print up their music on large sheets
(they end up at 11" x 14" after trimming) so they can read those teeny dots.

You probably won't find them at WalMart but 11" x 17" binders are common and
should be available at any office supply outlet.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
(Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)

I *think* places like Hobby Lobby, Michaels and perhaps WalMart sell
binders around that size for scrapbooks & stuff. You'd put the pages in
sideways, ie" punched at the top instead of the sides.
John

Dave O'Heare wrote:

Well, she who must... is playing music in a couple of groups, and as they're
none of them getting any younger, they print up their music on large sheets
(they end up at 11" x 14" after trimming) so they can read those teeny dots.

As you can imagine, there are no binders made that fit paper that size. I
figure that it ought to be reasonably easy to make up a binder big enough to
carry the stuff, but I've run into one minor problem.

I can't find anyone that sells good quality 3-ring binder mechanisms. You
know the kind, probably date from the same era as the pencil sharpener
discussed here a little while ago. Three rings, trigger top and bottom, the
ring halves meet smoothly, etc. Has to be round rings, and 1" diameter is
big enough.

Does anyone have any ideas where these can be found?

Dave O'Heare
oheareATmagmaDOTca

On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 13:45:17 -0500, "Dave O'Heare"
oheareATmagmaDOTca wrote:


Well, she who must... is playing music in a couple of groups, and as they're
none of them getting any younger, they print up their music on large sheets
(they end up at 11" x 14" after trimming) so they can read those teeny dots.

As you can imagine, there are no binders made that fit paper that size. I
figure that it ought to be reasonably easy to make up a binder big enough to
carry the stuff, but I've run into one minor problem.

I can't find anyone that sells good quality 3-ring binder mechanisms. You
know the kind, probably date from the same era as the pencil sharpener
discussed here a little while ago. Three rings, trigger top and bottom, the
ring halves meet smoothly, etc. Has to be round rings, and 1" diameter is
big enough.

Does anyone have any ideas where these can be found?

Dave O'Heare
oheareATmagmaDOTca


This doesn't answer your question directly, but you can buy binders
for 11 X 17 paper at Office Depot

http://tinyurl.com/47um2

Good luck

Chris
================================================== =========================
Chris

There have been some suggestions to cobble together an 11" binder using
cannibalized 8.5 " ones but keep in mind that for whatever ring
configuration you end up with you are going to need a hole-punch which can
give you a matching alignment.

Lee

--
To e-mail, replace "bucketofspam" with "dleegordon"

Dang.

I swear, I *did* a Google search for "3 ring binder mechanisms", and found
only places that would sell you 3 ring binders with mechanisms, or places in
Asia where I could buy 100,000 of them if I wanted.

I apologize, profusely.

The search is now on for a good quality mechanism, where the rings meet
evenly, that kinda thing.

And for those who were wondering...

The way things have worked so far is to print up the music on 11"x 17" paper
with a 3-and-a-bit inch bottom margin, and trim to 11"x 14". I don't know
why 14" and not 17", I wasn't privy to the original arrangements.

The paper is then punched as though it was 8 1/2"x 11", with the holes
indexed from the bottom inside corner. A standard 3-ring mechanism will
work fine, so long as it's a 1" ring. With bigger rings, the trigger fouls
on the paper.


The printout binders take 14 7/8"x 11" paper, and I need to bind on the long
edge, so that doesn't quite work, but a good thought.

And yeah, one can buy an 11"x 17" binder, but $75?!?! Yikes.


Cheers!

Dave O'H
oheareATmagmaDOTca

Dave O'Heare wrote:

snipped

The way things have worked so far is to print up the music on 11"x 17" paper
with a 3-and-a-bit inch bottom margin, and trim to 11"x 14". I don't know
why 14" and not 17", I wasn't privy to the original arrangements.

The paper is then punched as though it was 8 1/2"x 11", with the holes
indexed from the bottom inside corner. A standard 3-ring mechanism will
work fine, so long as it's a 1" ring. With bigger rings, the trigger fouls
on the paper.

The printout binders take 14 7/8"x 11" paper, and I need to bind on the long
edge, so that doesn't quite work, but a good thought.

And yeah, one can buy an 11"x 17" binder, but $75?!?! Yikes.

Many of the records I deal with at work are about 11" x 14" and 11" x 17". I
find that post binders work better than ring binders for these sized sheets.
The binder can be expanded by adding sections of posts which are threaded. For
an idea of what they are take a look at:

http://www.buyonlinenow.com/viewprod...?sku=WLJ24163N

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
(Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)

I used to make wood three ring binders. I bought the best binders I could
find and just stole the mechanisms out of them.

Matthew (who got REAL tired of drilling out rivits)

"Dave O'Heare" oheareATmagmaDOTca wrote in message
...
Dang.

I swear, I *did* a Google search for "3 ring binder mechanisms", and found
only places that would sell you 3 ring binders with mechanisms, or places
in
Asia where I could buy 100,000 of them if I wanted.

I apologize, profusely.

The search is now on for a good quality mechanism, where the rings meet
evenly, that kinda thing.

And for those who were wondering...

The way things have worked so far is to print up the music on 11"x 17"
paper
with a 3-and-a-bit inch bottom margin, and trim to 11"x 14". I don't know
why 14" and not 17", I wasn't privy to the original arrangements.

The paper is then punched as though it was 8 1/2"x 11", with the holes
indexed from the bottom inside corner. A standard 3-ring mechanism will
work fine, so long as it's a 1" ring. With bigger rings, the trigger
fouls
on the paper.


The printout binders take 14 7/8"x 11" paper, and I need to bind on the
long
edge, so that doesn't quite work, but a good thought.

And yeah, one can buy an 11"x 17" binder, but $75?!?! Yikes.


Cheers!

Dave O'H
oheareATmagmaDOTca

Matthew wrote:
I used to make wood three ring binders. I bought the best binders I could
find and just stole the mechanisms out of them.

Sorry but I'm coming in late/didn't read the pre-thread,
howdja do the hinged covers?

Matthew (who got REAL tired of drilling out rivits)

Uh-huh, I can understand that.

UA100, who thinks maybe something along the lines of
binderizing his Lee Valley catalogs would be nice...

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:44:59 GMT, Unisaw A100
wrote:

Sorry but I'm coming in late/didn't read the pre-thread,
howdja do the hinged covers?

I'm a little late as well, but just as interested in the topic.

I just failed miserably at this a few days ago.

What I'm trying to figure out is an attractive way to mount the
hinges.

I thought some fiberglass cloth would make a nice hinge,
If I could get it to only have epoxy on the wood part, but no luck.
The epoxy wicked into the 'hinge' part and cracked. Plus, I didn't
like the way the glass was glued to the binder.

I'm toying with an idea of using a piano hinge and somehow embedding
it in between a couple of very thin pieces of wood. Sort of like
making my own plywood.

I too, would be very interested in how people have successfully done
this before.

Thanks!

BD wrote:

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:44:59 GMT, Unisaw A100
wrote:

Sorry but I'm coming in late/didn't read the pre-thread,
howdja do the hinged covers?


I'm a little late as well, but just as interested in the topic.
I just failed miserably at this a few days ago.
What I'm trying to figure out is an attractive way to mount the
hinges.
I thought some fiberglass cloth would make a nice hinge,
If I could get it to only have epoxy on the wood part, but no luck.
The epoxy wicked into the 'hinge' part and cracked. Plus, I didn't
like the way the glass was glued to the binder.
I'm toying with an idea of using a piano hinge and somehow embedding
it in between a couple of very thin pieces of wood. Sort of like
making my own plywood.

I too, would be very interested in how people have successfully done
this before.

Thanks!

Leather makes a nice hinge, infact a leather slip cover over wood or an
existing 3-ring binder is awesome. If you're a little adept at leather,
Tandy sells a kit thats precut you can tool and lace.

http://www.tandyleather.com/prodinfo...=32&mi tem=38