Hiya Folks,
I purchased their MKII sharpening system around 9-10 months ago. It's
worked very well
for me and I'm glad I plunked down the cash.

Today, I get a USPS Priority package in the mail from Lee Valley which is
odd because I haven't
ordered anything from them recently. Inside is a note explaining that
several owners of the same
sharpener requested some sort of cover for it. Consequently, Lee Valley put
together a cover of nylon
and sent me one. Even though I bought the thing ages ago. There aren't
many companies that
have this level of service.

As long as I'm buying stuff they sell, Lee Valley will be the first place I
look!
Thanks Rob!

Cheers,
cc

Dear Robin (Lee)

I just purchased a couple of the Grr-Ripper instructional DVDs from
your web site. I don't think that they have shipped yet. If I , and
several others, request a DVD player to go along with them, what are my
odds of getting one? You could ship the items together to reduce
shipping costs.

Who's with me?

Thank you, (Another satisfied customer in MN)

Eric

Disclaimer: The above was written tongue in cheek. It is not intended
to be taken seriously.

On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 00:21:12 -0700, "James \"Cubby\" Culbertson"
wrote:

Hiya Folks,
I purchased their MKII sharpening system around 9-10 months ago. It's
worked very well
for me and I'm glad I plunked down the cash.

Today, I get a USPS Priority package in the mail from Lee Valley which is
odd because I haven't
ordered anything from them recently. Inside is a note explaining that
several owners of the same
sharpener requested some sort of cover for it. Consequently, Lee Valley put
together a cover of nylon
and sent me one. Even though I bought the thing ages ago. There aren't
many companies that
have this level of service.

As long as I'm buying stuff they sell, Lee Valley will be the first place I
look!
Thanks Rob!

Cheers,
cc

that's pretty impressive...
what is most impressive to me is that they could have sent you a
special deal at maybe 50% off as a "thank you" for being a customer,
and you would probably think it was nice of them..

Good to see some companies still look for and appreciate repeat
business and will spend the time & money needed to get it..

Just a little side note:

Last evening on television, I was watching "Discovery" a science
program and they featured Lenord Lee. After Leonard retired from
Lee Valley he opened a small design firm in Almonte Ontario. Just to
the south of Ottawa. I believe the firms name is Canics. The
firm primarily designs tools etc.

Leonard was approached by a medical doctor, who had previously
purchase numerous items from Lee Valley. The doctor "who's name
escapes me" asked Lenord to take a look at a problem he was having.
The problem was the standard flat blade scalpal which was originally
designed in 1915 and had several problems.

For example: The way the scalpal was held in the hand relied on the
muscle control and nervous system of the forearm, which was not as
responsive and lacked the sensitivity of the human hand. Likewise,
for staff, changing the blade on the scalpal was a difficult and
dangerous procedure.

End result; Leonard designed a more ergonomic handle with an ejection
mechanism which would safely eject the blade when it was changed.

Leonard then went on to develope several other devices. One device
was designed to hold surgical incisions open, during procedures while
working alone, and/or without cluttering up the work area by requiring
a second set of hands to assist or by using other instruments.

Another device was developed to do the opposite, by assisting with the
closing of incisions during procedures and also closing surgical
wounds gradually over a period of time, allowing the skin to strech.
In effect, it eliminates the problem of sutures tearing out of the
skin, when the skin has been stretched to close a wound.

I thought I'd pass this along, simply because the contribution Leonard
Lee and Lee Valley (Robin) have made is quite considerable, and
frankly I thought the story was quite interesting.

Pat




On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 00:21:12 -0700, "James \"Cubby\" Culbertson"
wrote:

Hiya Folks,
I purchased their MKII sharpening system around 9-10 months ago. It's
worked very well
for me and I'm glad I plunked down the cash.

Today, I get a USPS Priority package in the mail from Lee Valley which is
odd because I haven't
ordered anything from them recently. Inside is a note explaining that
several owners of the same
sharpener requested some sort of cover for it. Consequently, Lee Valley put
together a cover of nylon
and sent me one. Even though I bought the thing ages ago. There aren't
many companies that
have this level of service.

As long as I'm buying stuff they sell, Lee Valley will be the first place I
look!
Thanks Rob!

Cheers,
cc

Leonard then went on to develope several other devices. One device
was designed to hold surgical incisions open, during procedures while
working alone


Hey, this is great. Who else but Lee Valley would be pioneering a new era of
do-it-yourself home surgery. Next time I need a surgical procedure I'll
order the soon-to-be-released workbench to surgical table conversion kit and
save myself $10,000 or more in medical bills.

SawDust wrote:
Just a little side note:

Last evening on television, I was watching "Discovery" a science
program and they featured Lenord Lee. After Leonard retired from
Lee Valley he opened a small design firm in Almonte Ontario. Just to
the south of Ottawa. I believe the firms name is Canics. The
firm primarily designs tools etc.

Leonard was approached by a medical doctor, who had previously
purchase numerous items from Lee Valley. The doctor "who's name
escapes me" asked Lenord to take a look at a problem he was having.
The problem was the standard flat blade scalpal which was originally
designed in 1915 and had several problems.

For example: The way the scalpal was held in the hand relied on the
muscle control and nervous system of the forearm, which was not as
responsive and lacked the sensitivity of the human hand. Likewise,
for staff, changing the blade on the scalpal was a difficult and
dangerous procedure.

End result; Leonard designed a more ergonomic handle with an
ejection
mechanism which would safely eject the blade when it was changed.

Leonard then went on to develope several other devices. One device
was designed to hold surgical incisions open, during procedures while
working alone, and/or without cluttering up the work area by
requiring
a second set of hands to assist or by using other instruments.

Another device was developed to do the opposite, by assisting with
the
closing of incisions during procedures and also closing surgical
wounds gradually over a period of time, allowing the skin to strech.
In effect, it eliminates the problem of sutures tearing out of the
skin, when the skin has been stretched to close a wound.

I thought I'd pass this along, simply because the contribution
Leonard
Lee and Lee Valley (Robin) have made is quite considerable, and
frankly I thought the story was quite interesting.

Pat




On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 00:21:12 -0700, "James \"Cubby\" Culbertson"
wrote:

Hiya Folks,
I purchased their MKII sharpening system around 9-10 months ago.
It's
worked very well
for me and I'm glad I plunked down the cash.

Today, I get a USPS Priority package in the mail from Lee Valley
which is
odd because I haven't
ordered anything from them recently. Inside is a note explaining
that
several owners of the same
sharpener requested some sort of cover for it. Consequently, Lee
Valley put
together a cover of nylon
and sent me one. Even though I bought the thing ages ago. There
aren't
many companies that
have this level of service.

As long as I'm buying stuff they sell, Lee Valley will be the first
place I
look!
Thanks Rob!

Cheers,
cc

Doctors aren't going to like that. You need to justify the extra guys in
the OR so they can get paid!
Featherbedding is not limited to the railroad...LOL

Leonard then went on to develope several other devices. One device
was designed to hold surgical incisions open, during procedures while
working alone, and/or without cluttering up the work area by requiring
a second set of hands to assist or by using other instruments.

On 7-Dec-2004, SawDust wrote:

I believe the firms name is Canics.

Canica. THe web site includes a clip from the Discovery Channel.

http://www.canica.com/

Interesting stuff. I especially was impressed by the hand-holding jig
that he designed based on Lee Valley super fridge magnets!

Mike

On 7 Dec 2004 05:20:58 -0800, robdingnagian1 wrote:
Dear Robin (Lee)

I just purchased a couple of the Grr-Ripper instructional DVDs from
your web site. I don't think that they have shipped yet. If I , and
several others, request a DVD player to go along with them, what are my
odds of getting one? You could ship the items together to reduce
shipping costs.

I think he only offers that service to his Canadianian customers.

Good Stuff...! I'll have to take a look at the site.

I agree.

Pat


On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 20:14:53 GMT, "Michael Daly"
wrote:

On 7-Dec-2004, SawDust wrote:

I believe the firms name is Canics.

Canica. THe web site includes a clip from the Discovery Channel.

http://www.canica.com/

Interesting stuff. I especially was impressed by the hand-holding jig
that he designed based on Lee Valley super fridge magnets!

Mike

"robdingnagian1" wrote in message
ups.com...
Dear Robin (Lee)

I just purchased a couple of the Grr-Ripper instructional DVDs from
your web site. I don't think that they have shipped yet. If I , and
several others, request a DVD player to go along with them, what are my
odds of getting one? You could ship the items together to reduce
shipping costs.

Who's with me?

Thank you, (Another satisfied customer in MN)

Eric

Disclaimer: The above was written tongue in cheek. It is not intended
to be taken seriously.


Hi Eric -

Sorry - but we don't do the tailed stuff....

BTW - I can't believe the price of DVD players... $39 CDN, with a remote, a
cable, AND batteries for the remote...at that price - I'm surprised it came
in a box....

Cheers -

Rob

Rob Lee writes:


BTW - I can't believe the price of DVD players... $39 CDN, with a remote, a
cable, AND batteries for the remote...at that price - I'm surprised it came
in a box...

I was looking at grinder stands. Tractor Supply has a good looking one for
$29.8?. I figured I could not buy the materials to build one for that. Dunno if
it's boxed or not. Then, Homier (not a classy tool joint, but grinder stands
aren't high tech) pops with one for under 20 bucks.

I'm sitting here scratching my head over which to buy, and then realized I need
a new CD player for the shop. The grinder can sit on a bench for a few more
weeks.

So I need to find the best 30 buck CD player in town. I already got snookered
into a DVD player for the idjit box...we've used it twice for that, with the
VCR part getting more use. Seems all the DVD movies, or all those we have, are
letterboxed which my wife hates.

Ah well.

I won't even ask for recommendations on the CD player, because brand names on
electronic gear have become totally meaningless.

Charlie Self
"Vote: the instrument and symbol of a freeman's power to make a fool of himself
and a wreck of his country." Ambrose Bierce

On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 17:02:44 -0500, Robin Lee wrote:

BTW - I can't believe the price of DVD players... $39 CDN, with a remote, a
cable, AND batteries for the remote...at that price - I'm surprised it came
in a box....

And what's _really_ impressive/surprising, is that they can make the
darn thing in China (or wherever China is outsourcing jobs to these
days), package it, ship it, warehouse it, ship it again, stock it,
and sell it, and everyone along the line makes some money.

Hi Charlie.

Some DVD players in the setup will allow you to select the video size
format. Be it letterbox or a normal TV screen size. It's worth
checking the DVD player setup.

Pat




On 07 Dec 2004 22:25:37 GMT, otforme (Charlie Self)
wrote:

Rob Lee writes:


BTW - I can't believe the price of DVD players... $39 CDN, with a remote, a
cable, AND batteries for the remote...at that price - I'm surprised it came
in a box...

I was looking at grinder stands. Tractor Supply has a good looking one for
$29.8?. I figured I could not buy the materials to build one for that. Dunno if
it's boxed or not. Then, Homier (not a classy tool joint, but grinder stands
aren't high tech) pops with one for under 20 bucks.

I'm sitting here scratching my head over which to buy, and then realized I need
a new CD player for the shop. The grinder can sit on a bench for a few more
weeks.

So I need to find the best 30 buck CD player in town. I already got snookered
into a DVD player for the idjit box...we've used it twice for that, with the
VCR part getting more use. Seems all the DVD movies, or all those we have, are
letterboxed which my wife hates.

Ah well.

I won't even ask for recommendations on the CD player, because brand names on
electronic gear have become totally meaningless.

Charlie Self
"Vote: the instrument and symbol of a freeman's power to make a fool of himself
and a wreck of his country." Ambrose Bierce

Alright. I'll show you.

If I order three Grr-Ripper systems from you at a savings of $10 each
over everywhere else, I can buy my own DVD player at Wal-Mart or Best
Buy or something. How do you like them apples? (US saying)

Eric

This new beta Google thing took out the fact that my last message was a
reply to Robin Lee.

Cheers back Robin,

Eric

In article , Robin Lee
wrote:

I can't believe the price of DVD players... $39 CDN, with a remote, a
cable, AND batteries for the remote

My older son, the computer geek, told me recently that Sony (?) will be
releasing a new format /with/ /no/ /backward/ /compatability/ which
will render most of those players obsolete VERY SOON.

Gerry

Sounds like the DVD betamax

robdingnagian1 wrote:
Sounds like the DVD betamax

Naw, they're bringing back 8 tracks.

Dave in Fairfax
--
Dave Leader
reply-to doesn't work
use:
daveldr at att dot net
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http://www.woodturner.org
Capital Area Woodturners
http://www.capwoodturners.org/
PATINA
http://www.Patinatools.org/

Greg Ostrom wrote:

Doctors aren't going to like that.**You*need*to*justify*the*extra*guys*in
the OR so they can get paid!
Featherbedding is not limited to the railroad...LOL

As a representative of the International Brotherhood of Firemen and Caboose
Cleaners I charge you with heresy.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/

Charlie Self wrote:

that, with the VCR part getting more use. Seems all the DVD movies, or all
those we have, are letterboxed which my wife hates.

Get a DVD player with a zoom feature. Have it both ways. You'll appreciate
all the letterboxed DVDs some day when you have a 16:9 aspect ratio HDTV.
Probably about a month after I do, 15-20 years from now, but hey.

Actually, after combing the ends of the earth looking for a DVD player with
a zoom feature to replace our super cheapo Wal-Mart special DVD player that
went tits up after six months (but which had a zoom feature), we find we
never actually bother with it anymore. We got used to the letterboxing.

I won't even ask for recommendations on the CD player, because brand names
on electronic gear have become totally meaningless.

Not completely. I find Pioneer still makes the best radio tuners in the
business.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/

G.E.R.R.Y. wrote:

My older son, the computer geek, told me recently that Sony (?) will be
releasing a new format /with/ /no/ /backward/ /compatability/ which
will render most of those players obsolete VERY SOON.

It's true that there's a new VHS vs. Beta thing coming for the next
generation high definition big capacity discs, but Sony's technology is
just one of the new standards. One of them will win. The early adopters
who buy the wrong machine will be screwed.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/

"Silvan" wrote in message
It's true that there's a new VHS vs. Beta thing coming for the next
generation high definition big capacity discs, but Sony's technology is
just one of the new standards. One of them will win. The early adopters
who buy the wrong machine will be screwed.

Not if you are careful in choosing. Years ago many people were buying the
Commodore computer. I figured it was foolish and instead, bought the TI
44a. After all, Texas Instrument would be making those computers and
supporting them for years to come. Maybe I should upgrade?

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 03:42:57 +0000, Edwin Pawlowski wrote:


"Silvan" wrote in message
It's true that there's a new VHS vs. Beta thing coming for the next
generation high definition big capacity discs, but Sony's technology is
just one of the new standards. One of them will win. The early
adopters who buy the wrong machine will be screwed.

Not if you are careful in choosing. Years ago many people were buying the
Commodore computer. I figured it was foolish and instead, bought the TI
44a. After all, Texas Instrument would be making those computers and
supporting them for years to come. Maybe I should upgrade?

It was the TI99-4A and I went with it also. Advertised by Bill
Cosby. I also bought property advertised by Pat Boone. Sucks to be us.

- Doug

Doug Winterburn wrote in
news
It was the TI99-4A and I went with it also. Advertised by Bill
Cosby. I also bought property advertised by Pat Boone. Sucks to be us.

- Doug


Still got mine in the basement. Along with a bunch of other useless crap.
But it served its purpose, I got my first taste of programming on that
sucker.

Isn't Boone (or someone similar) now hawking gold (coins?) on the TV? Maybe
I should get some of those ....

Regards,
JT

On 8-Dec-2004, Silvan wrote:

The early adopters
who buy the wrong machine will be screwed.

Expect machines that are capable of playing both (HD-DVD, Blu-Ray)
technologies. They aren't so different from a hardware standpoint.

Mike

There are two groups coming out with blue laser DVD's. Sony and Toshiba.
Both will play current DVD's (of which there are two formats DVD+ and DVD-).
The question is whether they will play each other's formats.. that is
undecided. To reiterate.. they WILL be backward compatible.
"G.E.R.R.Y." wrote in message
...
In article , Robin Lee
wrote:

I can't believe the price of DVD players... $39 CDN, with a remote, a
cable, AND batteries for the remote

My older son, the computer geek, told me recently that Sony (?) will be
releasing a new format /with/ /no/ /backward/ /compatability/ which
will render most of those players obsolete VERY SOON.

Gerry