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Jet-JWTS-10JF Table saw
Trying to figure out a way to upgrade to a bigger and better saw from my DW
744. Keep looking at the Jet that Lowe's now sells, which is I believe is the JWTS-10JF. I have my DeWalt on a Rigid Work-N-Haul it, the stand that HD sells with the Ridgid TS. I need to get the Jet on this stand to be able to get it in and out of the shed I keep my tools in(a 6 X 8'). The stand I have I hope can handle the weight of the Jet, what do you think here? I just hope I can handle wrestling the saw in and out of the shed and the 30" rails may make it a little awkward. To make room for the saw I am going to have to get rid of a small workbench in one end of the shed, where the junk on that is going to go, I haven't figured out yet. Another question I have is, can this saw handle the moving and possible bumping around? Will the Jet T-type fence be accurate enough till a possibly later upgrade can be done? Need some good advice here so I can plan and work this out while I save some more tool money. Thanks, I appreciate it. -- Paul O. |
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Sounds like my saw. I don't remember the exact numbers and initials but
I think it's the same. Been very happy with this saw. Building a stand for it to replace the factory should be pretty simple. Put some wheels on it and your set to go. Move it "sideways" i.e. put the wheels so it moves parallel to the fence and not parallel to the miter slot. Where the option exists, I'd get the cast iron wings. I have the stamped metal wings and as near as I can tell, they work as well as one could want. I still drool over solid (not lacework) cast iron wings. bob g. Paul O. wrote: Trying to figure out a way to upgrade to a bigger and better saw from my DW 744. Keep looking at the Jet that Lowe's now sells, which is I believe is the JWTS-10JF. I have my DeWalt on a Rigid Work-N-Haul it, the stand that HD sells with the Ridgid TS. I need to get the Jet on this stand to be able to get it in and out of the shed I keep my tools in(a 6 X 8'). The stand I have I hope can handle the weight of the Jet, what do you think here? I just hope I can handle wrestling the saw in and out of the shed and the 30" rails may make it a little awkward. To make room for the saw I am going to have to get rid of a small workbench in one end of the shed, where the junk on that is going to go, I haven't figured out yet. Another question I have is, can this saw handle the moving and possible bumping around? Will the Jet T-type fence be accurate enough till a possibly later upgrade can be done? Need some good advice here so I can plan and work this out while I save some more tool money. Thanks, I appreciate it. |
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Don't drool over the cast iron! (it will rust!!)
I have the JWTS-10 with the cast iron wings. I am very pleased with the saw. I paid $550 for it at the Charlotte NC WW show about 4 years ago (and I keep it waxed in case I drool over it!) Frank Robert Galloway wrote: Sounds like my saw. I don't remember the exact numbers and initials but I think it's the same. Been very happy with this saw. Building a stand for it to replace the factory should be pretty simple. Put some wheels on it and your set to go. Move it "sideways" i.e. put the wheels so it moves parallel to the fence and not parallel to the miter slot. Where the option exists, I'd get the cast iron wings. I have the stamped metal wings and as near as I can tell, they work as well as one could want. I still drool over solid (not lacework) cast iron wings. bob g. Paul O. wrote: Trying to figure out a way to upgrade to a bigger and better saw from my DW 744. Keep looking at the Jet that Lowe's now sells, which is I believe is the JWTS-10JF. I have my DeWalt on a Rigid Work-N-Haul it, the stand that HD sells with the Ridgid TS. I need to get the Jet on this stand to be able to get it in and out of the shed I keep my tools in(a 6 X 8'). The stand I have I hope can handle the weight of the Jet, what do you think here? I just hope I can handle wrestling the saw in and out of the shed and the 30" rails may make it a little awkward. To make room for the saw I am going to have to get rid of a small workbench in one end of the shed, where the junk on that is going to go, I haven't figured out yet. Another question I have is, can this saw handle the moving and possible bumping around? Will the Jet T-type fence be accurate enough till a possibly later upgrade can be done? Need some good advice here so I can plan and work this out while I save some more tool money. Thanks, I appreciate it. |
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Great Saw.....
I put the Incra Fence system on it and it's a WONDERFUL machine! |
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This Jet is an outstanding saw. I wrote a review about it on epinions
when I picked it up a few years ago. I recommend rewiring for 220V (nice improvement in power). I also put it on the mobile stand available from Harbor Freight (which is identical to the one Delta sells as a much lower cost...HF has many items that are questionable, but the mobile base is great.) The standard fence is adequate, but I'm upgrading to a 50" Jet Xacta II fence (commercial version) tonight. I also found some excellent ideas from some smart folks for improving the dust collection to 'near' cabinet saw level at very low cost. If anyone is interested, I'll post the links. I was about ready to upgrade to a Jet cabinet saw or a Powermatic 66, but with the latest upgrades, I don't think I will. -- Mark |
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This Jet is an outstanding saw. I wrote a review about it on epinions
when I picked it up a few years ago. I recommend rewiring for 220V (nice improvement in power). I also put it on the mobile stand available from Harbor Freight (which is identical to the one Delta sells as a much lower cost...HF has many items that are questionable, but the mobile base is great.) The standard fence is adequate, but I'm upgrading to a 50" Jet Xacta II fence (commercial version) tonight. I also found some excellent ideas from some smart folks for improving the dust collection to 'near' cabinet saw level at very low cost. If anyone is interested, I'll post the links. I was about ready to upgrade to a Jet cabinet saw or a Powermatic 66, but with the latest upgrades, I don't think I will. -- Mark |
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Mark wrote:
I recommend rewiring for 220V (nice improvement in power). The extra voltage increases the horsepower? UA100 |
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Unisaw A100 wrote in
: Mark wrote: I recommend rewiring for 220V (nice improvement in power). The extra voltage increases the horsepower? UA100 Short answer: Yes, because there is less IR loss. r -- Nothing beats the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with DLT tapes. |
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"Unisaw A100" wrote in message ... Mark wrote: I recommend rewiring for 220V (nice improvement in power). The extra voltage increases the horsepower? Yes, because there is less IR loss hence less heating. The horsepower is determined by the amount of temperature rise. Since there is less heating, the motor must develop more power to achieve the same temperature rise. Even so, the difference in power can be quite small. Jim |
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"Unisaw A100" wrote in message ... Mark wrote: I recommend rewiring for 220V (nice improvement in power). The extra voltage increases the horsepower? Sure! Unfortunately your electric bill doubles since you're using twice as many volts. |
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On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:12:56 GMT, "Jim" wrote:
"Unisaw A100" wrote in message .. . Mark wrote: I recommend rewiring for 220V (nice improvement in power). The extra voltage increases the horsepower? Yes, because there is less IR loss hence less heating. The horsepower is determined by the amount of temperature rise. Since there is less heating, the motor must develop more power to achieve the same temperature rise. Even so, the difference in power can be quite small. Jim and if the wire runs are reasonably short, it would be a *very* small difference. |
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You are only using half as many amps per leg also. Actually you use slightly
less electricity because there is not the large strain and power usage on start-up to get to the running RPMs. On my mill/drill when I used 110v. when set at higher speeds it would often kick out the circuit breaker on start up, no problems after switching to 220v. Dick -- Richard H. Neighbors Building fine pool cues for real pool players at affordable prices. Over 35 years experience in cue repair. 318 Linden st. Cinti. OH 45216 ph# 513 233-7499 web site: http//www.dickiecues.com "patrick conroy" wrote in message ... "Unisaw A100" wrote in message ... Mark wrote: I recommend rewiring for 220V (nice improvement in power). The extra voltage increases the horsepower? Sure! Unfortunately your electric bill doubles since you're using twice as many volts. |
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"rhncue" wrote in message ... You are only using half as many amps per leg also. Sorry - forgot to add the " " to my post... |
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R: wrote:
Short answer: Yes, because there is less IR loss. Enough that you would notice without the use of a meter? UA100 |
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Unisaw A100 wrote in
: R: wrote: Short answer: Yes, because there is less IR loss. Enough that you would notice without the use of a meter? UA100 Depends on the application and other factors. It made a huge difference on my Unisaw. Time to reached full speed on startup was cut by a factor of 4 or more. On small motors like the one on a Delta band saw doesn't matter as much to me. I don't do any heavy cutting on the band saw. There has been at least one recent magazine article extolling the virtues of 220 power. I won't bore you with the details. People generally hate it when I get the formulas out. r -- Nothing beats the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with DLT tapes. |
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"patrick conroy" wrote in
: "Unisaw A100" wrote in message ... Mark wrote: I recommend rewiring for 220V (nice improvement in power). The extra voltage increases the horsepower? Sure! Unfortunately your electric bill doubles since you're using twice as many volts. That is not true. Electricity is sold by the number of watts per hour not the volts or the current but the product of the two. Amps x Volts=Watts. The bottom line is that your electric bill stays the same. The plus side is that the little bit that would be converted to heat at 110 is dropped at 2220. You get more of what you pay for. r -- Nothing beats the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with DLT tapes. |
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R wrote:
There has been at least one recent magazine article extolling the virtues of 220 power. I won't bore you with the details. People generally hate it when I get the formulas out. Can you bore us with which magazine ran the article? UA100 |
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Mark wrote:
This Jet is an outstanding saw. I wrote a review about it on epinions when I picked it up a few years ago. I recommend rewiring for 220V (nice improvement in power). I also put it on the mobile stand available from Harbor Freight (which is identical to the one Delta sells as a much lower cost...HF has many items that are questionable, but the mobile base is great.) The standard fence is adequate, but I'm upgrading to a 50" Jet Xacta II fence (commercial version) tonight. I also found some excellent ideas from some smart folks for improving the dust collection to 'near' cabinet saw level at very low cost. If anyone is interested, I'll post the links. I was about ready to upgrade to a Jet cabinet saw or a Powermatic 66, but with the latest upgrades, I don't think I will. -- Mark Mark, Do you have the part number for the base? I have deen looking at HF, and can't fine it Thanks Frank |
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:09:45 -0500, the inscrutable "Frank S."
spake: Mark wrote: This Jet is an outstanding saw. I wrote a review about it on epinions when I picked it up a few years ago. I recommend rewiring for 220V (nice improvement in power). I also put it on the mobile stand available from Harbor Freight (which is identical to the one Delta sells as a much lower cost...HF has many items that are questionable, but the mobile base is great.) The standard fence is adequate, but I'm Do you have the part number for the base? I have deen looking at HF, and can't fine it They discontinued it about 2 days after I put mine together and decided to buy another one. That was a couple years ago. --------------------------------------------------------------- Never put off 'til tomorrow | http://www.diversify.com what you can avoid altogether. | Dynamic Website Applications --------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Frank...I think Larry is right. For reference, the item was part
number 41915-OVGA, Universal Mobile Base. I'm keeping it handy just in case HF brings back the item. Sorry that they aren't available for now...they have held up really well. |
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Mark wrote:
Frank...I think Larry is right. For reference, the item was part number 41915-OVGA, Universal Mobile Base. I'm keeping it handy just in case HF brings back the item. Sorry that they aren't available for now...they have held up really well. It figures!!! They make something that works, and people want.... and they stop making it. Oh well Frank |
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