This always makes me want to see if I can get Rove to morph that piece
of **** wood into something decent like he turned that draft dodging
coward in the whitehouse into a warrior. That little dimwitted
cheerleader that now stinks ups the Oval Office on a daily basis.

Nobody can bull**** me on this one, I tried to get into the guard too
and there were thousands ahead of me and this was in the 60's well
before the chicken****'s old man pulled the strings for him in Texas.

Gotta admit, every time my back aches I resent this sissy even more.

Reading between the lines of your post, I think I detect a hint of
disdain for our commander-in-chief. Why you would want to denigrate such a
fine, articulate, forward-thinking strategist and statesman is beyond me.
G. Walker Bush is easily the finest president this country has seen since,
oh, let's say, Millard Fillmore. Shame on you, and on every other
unpatriotic liberal tree hugger who isn't planning to re-elect this shining
pinnacle of greatness.

Scott, who may have pulled a muscle in his tongue while writing this.

wrote in message ...
Ever try to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear by with your jointer
and planer? We've all done it I'm sure... screwed with some junk wood
trying to save a buck or just too lazy to go find some decent stuff.

For some reason, the angle I gotta bend over to use my old jointer
more often than not gets the piece of shrapnel I'm still carrying in
my back from Nam aching a a bit.

This always makes me want to see if I can get Rove to morph that piece
of **** wood into something decent like he turned that draft dodging
coward in the whitehouse into a warrior. That little dimwitted
cheerleader that now stinks ups the Oval Office on a daily basis.

Nobody can bull**** me on this one, I tried to get into the guard too
and there were thousands ahead of me and this was in the 60's well
before the chicken****'s old man pulled the strings for him in Texas.

Gotta admit, every time my back aches I resent this sissy even more.

bringEm,
Kelley



And I'm sure that you supported the real draft dodger, Clinton, while denigrating the GWB's ANG service. Now, how exactly did
Clinton serve his country? Protesting the war in England?

Just admit that you don't like the policies of the Bush administration, or and Republican administration, and stop the mindless
fixation with his military service. He served and was honorably discharged. Far better than the real coward, Clinton.

On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 03:27:51 -0800, vaguely
proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:

remove ns from my header address to reply via email

Well there's a heck of a way to get an OT in by the back door, whether
I agree with your ideas or not.....

Ever try to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear by with your jointer
and planer? We've all done it I'm sure... screwed with some junk wood
trying to save a buck or just too lazy to go find some decent stuff.

Nobody can bull**** me on this one, I tried to get into the guard too
and there were thousands ahead of me and this was in the 60's well
before the chicken****'s old man pulled the strings for him in Texas.

Gotta admit, every time my back aches I resent this sissy even more.

************************************************** ***
I know I am wrong about just about everything. So I
am not going to listen when I am told I am wrong about
the things I know I am right about.

Al Reid wrote:

wrote in message
...
Ever try to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear by with your jointer
and planer? We've all done it I'm sure... screwed with some junk wood
trying to save a buck or just too lazy to go find some decent stuff.

For some reason, the angle I gotta bend over to use my old jointer
more often than not gets the piece of shrapnel I'm still carrying in
my back from Nam aching a a bit.

This always makes me want to see if I can get Rove to morph that piece
of **** wood into something decent like he turned that draft dodging
coward in the whitehouse into a warrior. That little dimwitted
cheerleader that now stinks ups the Oval Office on a daily basis.

Nobody can bull**** me on this one, I tried to get into the guard too
and there were thousands ahead of me and this was in the 60's well
before the chicken****'s old man pulled the strings for him in Texas.

Gotta admit, every time my back aches I resent this sissy even more.

Has it occurred to you that you might improve your life more by adjusting
the position of your jointer to one that doesn't make your back hurt than
you will by starting yet another flame war about Bush?

bringEm,
Kelley



And I'm sure that you supported the real draft dodger, Clinton, while
denigrating the GWB's ANG service. Now, how exactly did
Clinton serve his country? Protesting the war in England?

Just admit that you don't like the policies of the Bush administration, or
and Republican administration, and stop the mindless
fixation with his military service. He served and was honorably
discharged. Far better than the real coward, Clinton.

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

wrote in message ...
On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 08:37:42 -0400, "Al Reid"
Just admit that you don't like the policies of the Bush administration, or and Republican administration, and stop the mindless
fixation with his military service. He served and was honorably discharged. Far better than the real coward, Clinton.


He is a chicken****. If he "believed" in the war, why didn't he
volunteer ? Huh? Passed his chance to be on the 'wall' to less well
connected? Wonder who he passed his body bag to?


Again, he served his country. Far more that Clinton did. So get over it.

And where was he on 9/11? Too pilled to show his face after the Towers
went down. Cowering in a bunker sobering up while real men were dying.


You live in fantasy land, too afraid to see reality. You need to stop being a Michael Moore groupie and get a life.

Kerry stated that he sat for 40 minutes, unable to even think after the second plane hit the towers. Kerry really sprung to action.
What a hero.

Cheerleader, snicker you know what most of them are?

KelleyJames responds:


On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 08:37:42 -0400, "Al Reid"
Just admit that you don't like the policies of the Bush administration, or
and Republican administration, and stop the mindless
fixation with his military service. He served and was honorably
discharged. Far better than the real coward, Clinton.

Uh, I know this comes as a surprise, Al (not KellyJames) but Clinton won,
twice, and isn't running this time.

Charlie Self
"The really frightening thing about middle age is that you know you'll grow out
of it." Doris Day

"Charlie Self" wrote in message
...
KelleyJames responds:


On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 08:37:42 -0400, "Al Reid"
Just admit that you don't like the policies of the Bush administration,
or
and Republican administration, and stop the mindless
fixation with his military service. He served and was honorably
discharged. Far better than the real coward, Clinton.

Uh, I know this comes as a surprise, Al (not KellyJames) but Clinton won,
twice, and isn't running this time.

Charlie Self
"The really frightening thing about middle age is that you know you'll
grow out
of it." Doris Day

Charlie,

I am well aware of who is running. I will say, though, that it is curious
that when Clinton was running all the Dems said it was not an issue to ne a
draft dodger and it was ancient history. 12 years later it's so damned
important an issue that you all lie about GWB's service and call him a
deserter and worse. The hypocrisy is deafening!

Al

Al Reid wrote:
: Charlie,

: I am well aware of who is running. I will say, though, that it is curious
: that when Clinton was running all the Dems said it was not an issue to ne a
: draft dodger and it was ancient history. 12 years later it's so damned
: important an issue that you all lie about GWB's service and call him a
: deserter and worse. The hypocrisy is deafening!

Bush's service, or lack thereof, was not an issue until he and his
campaign made it so.


-- Andy Barss

On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 21:43:46 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Barss wrote:
Al Reid wrote:
: Charlie,

: I am well aware of who is running. I will say, though, that it is curious
: that when Clinton was running all the Dems said it was not an issue to ne a
: draft dodger and it was ancient history. 12 years later it's so damned
: important an issue that you all lie about GWB's service and call him a
: deserter and worse. The hypocrisy is deafening!

Bush's service, or lack thereof, was not an issue until he and his
campaign made it so.

Amazing what a selective memory will bring up. Perhaps you don't recall
that Kerry was told even by his own advisors not to bring up military
service, yet he did anyway. He got 3 Purple Hearts, did you hear?
There's enough problems with Kerry's military/anti-military history that
he should have left it alone...and the Republicans don't even have
Dan Rather to hawk faked documents to make their point.

"Andrew Barss" wrote in message
...
Al Reid wrote:
: Charlie,

: I am well aware of who is running. I will say, though, that it is
curious
: that when Clinton was running all the Dems said it was not an issue to
ne a
: draft dodger and it was ancient history. 12 years later it's so damned
: important an issue that you all lie about GWB's service and call him a
: deserter and worse. The hypocrisy is deafening!

Bush's service, or lack thereof, was not an issue until he and his
campaign made it so.


-- Andy Barss



Wow, are you living in a dream world. It was the Kerry campaign, Terry
McAuliffe, Michael Moore, et al that have made an issue or GWB's service.
Kerry brings up Vietnam at every chance then is outraged if someone
questions his record. AND he has still not released all of his records.
Good attempt to rewrite history, but sorry, no cigar.

On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 22:01:44 GMT, "Al Reid"
wrote:

"Andrew Barss" wrote in message
...
Al Reid wrote:
: Charlie,

: I am well aware of who is running. I will say, though, that it is
curious
: that when Clinton was running all the Dems said it was not an issue to
ne a
: draft dodger and it was ancient history. 12 years later it's so damned
: important an issue that you all lie about GWB's service and call him a
: deserter and worse. The hypocrisy is deafening!

Bush's service, or lack thereof, was not an issue until he and his
campaign made it so.


-- Andy Barss



Wow, are you living in a dream world. It was the Kerry campaign, Terry
McAuliffe, Michael Moore, et al that have made an issue or GWB's service.
Kerry brings up Vietnam at every chance then is outraged if someone
questions his record. AND he has still not released all of his records.
Good attempt to rewrite history, but sorry, no cigar.


Good Christ, get off it. They both suck. For once, I'd like to have
a real candidate to vote for, and a discussion of useful issues
instead of a bunch of rehashed soundbytes shoved down the throats of
everyone with a tv by the spin doctors. Here's an abridged list of
things I could give a **** about:

Socialized health care.
Abortion.
Candidate X's military record or lack thereof.
Prescription drug benefits.
The height/weight/haircut/attire of candiate X.
Gay marriage.
The homeless.
How much money candidate X spent to annoy me with tripe.

Why doesn't anyone running for office tell me exactly why it is that I
pay 30% of my income right off the top of my wages, then pay 5.5% more
on everything I buy retail, then pay X amount of tax on my gasoline,
sales tax on my car, no matter how many times it has been bought and
sold in the past, tax on tobacco, property taxes, taxes for a social
security system I'm repeatedly told is going to be long gone by the
time I'm eligable to use it, interstate commerce taxes on anything I
have shipped to me. Federal communication taxes on my phone, whether
I use the sucker for 5 minute or 40 hours in any given month,
countless other taxes that I'm sure I never see and the kicker, the
tax on whatever is left when I die.

For these taxes, I *personally* get:

Roads to drive on.
Police to mop up blood after a crime, but little else.
A military.
Unemployment insurance I do not use.
OSHA (which is as corrupt as a worm-eaten apple, in my experience)
A space program that could be a whole lot better.
A big goddamn headache-
And very little else.

I'd also like to know why food stamps can be used to buy cigarettes,
alcohol, and Doritos. Why my father can sit on social security
disability for years on end when there's nothing wrong with him except
a drug addiction. I'd like to know why the bulk of education spending
in many school districts goes to the football team, instead of
microscopes and textbooks. Just what the hell "No child left behind
(TM)" means. What the office of homeland security does, if anything.
Why it is that my money is being used to support those who refuse to
work. Why it is my responsibility to pay for the childcare of those
who are too irresponsible to plan for and provide for their children.
And why biotechnology development is discouraged, to name a very few
things.

The hell with the whole lot of them. I just don't buy the lies
anymore. Don't bother replying if you just want to spew some more of
your same tired old party line, because I just don't care.

I spend 45-70 hours a week busting my ass cutting, shaping and hauling
steel to bring home a meager paycheck- the idea that any of these
greased-up, lying, suited monkeys have some kind of right to take even
one goddamn cent of the money I earn with my blood, sweat and aching
muscles makes me sick to my stomach. To come home and look at a
woodworking (one of the few pleasures in my life, woodworking)
newsgroup and see people going on and on about the idiotic non-contest
between two useless wastes of human skin is almost more than I can
bear.

wrote in message ...
On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 14:45:05 -0400, "Al Reid"


You live in fantasy land, too afraid to see reality. You need to stop being a Michael Moore groupie and get a life.

You ever been subject to the draft Al baby?

Anyhow, how about the foxhole test? Now who would you rather have in
your foxhole, ol' meatloaf moore who is 10 times the man that ratBoy
Bush is or the rat? Now with Meatloaf, it might be a bit tight all
night and even smell a bit but meatloaf would still be there in the
morning.

The rat would have slithered out during the night just like he did
when he dodged the draft during Nam. So who would you want protecting
your backsides? Meatloaf or ratBoy?

Without a doubt, Kelly baby, I would rather share the foxhole with GWB than Moore any day, any place, any time. I can find no
evidence that Moore ever served his country in any capacity, unless you consider lying and distorting a president's record as
service.

Moore may me a fat slob that occupies 10 times the space as GWB, but to say he is 10 times the man shows just how delusional you
really are.

Prometheus wrote:

On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 22:01:44 GMT, "Al Reid"
wrote:

"Andrew Barss" wrote in message
...
Al Reid wrote:
: Charlie,

: I am well aware of who is running. I will say, though, that it is
curious
: that when Clinton was running all the Dems said it was not an issue to
ne a
: draft dodger and it was ancient history. 12 years later it's so
: damned important an issue that you all lie about GWB's service and
: call him a
: deserter and worse. The hypocrisy is deafening!

Bush's service, or lack thereof, was not an issue until he and his
campaign made it so.


-- Andy Barss



Wow, are you living in a dream world. It was the Kerry campaign, Terry
McAuliffe, Michael Moore, et al that have made an issue or GWB's service.
Kerry brings up Vietnam at every chance then is outraged if someone
questions his record. AND he has still not released all of his records.
Good attempt to rewrite history, but sorry, no cigar.


Good Christ, get off it. They both suck. For once, I'd like to have
a real candidate to vote for, and a discussion of useful issues
instead of a bunch of rehashed soundbytes shoved down the throats of
everyone with a tv by the spin doctors. Here's an abridged list of
things I could give a **** about:

Socialized health care.
Abortion.
Candidate X's military record or lack thereof.
Prescription drug benefits.
The height/weight/haircut/attire of candiate X.
Gay marriage.
The homeless.
How much money candidate X spent to annoy me with tripe.

Why doesn't anyone running for office tell me exactly why it is that I
pay 30% of my income right off the top of my wages, then pay 5.5% more
on everything I buy retail, then pay X amount of tax on my gasoline,
sales tax on my car, no matter how many times it has been bought and
sold in the past, tax on tobacco, property taxes, taxes for a social
security system I'm repeatedly told is going to be long gone by the
time I'm eligable to use it, interstate commerce taxes on anything I
have shipped to me. Federal communication taxes on my phone, whether
I use the sucker for 5 minute or 40 hours in any given month,
countless other taxes that I'm sure I never see and the kicker, the
tax on whatever is left when I die.

For these taxes, I *personally* get:

Roads to drive on.
Police to mop up blood after a crime, but little else.
A military.
Unemployment insurance I do not use.
OSHA (which is as corrupt as a worm-eaten apple, in my experience)
A space program that could be a whole lot better.
A big goddamn headache-
And very little else.

I'd also like to know why food stamps can be used to buy cigarettes,
alcohol, and Doritos. Why my father can sit on social security
disability for years on end when there's nothing wrong with him except
a drug addiction. I'd like to know why the bulk of education spending
in many school districts goes to the football team, instead of
microscopes and textbooks. Just what the hell "No child left behind
(TM)" means. What the office of homeland security does, if anything.
Why it is that my money is being used to support those who refuse to
work. Why it is my responsibility to pay for the childcare of those
who are too irresponsible to plan for and provide for their children.
And why biotechnology development is discouraged, to name a very few
things.

The hell with the whole lot of them. I just don't buy the lies
anymore. Don't bother replying if you just want to spew some more of
your same tired old party line, because I just don't care.

I spend 45-70 hours a week busting my ass cutting, shaping and hauling
steel to bring home a meager paycheck- the idea that any of these
greased-up, lying, suited monkeys have some kind of right to take even
one goddamn cent of the money I earn with my blood, sweat and aching
muscles makes me sick to my stomach. To come home and look at a
woodworking (one of the few pleasures in my life, woodworking)
newsgroup and see people going on and on about the idiotic non-contest
between two useless wastes of human skin is almost more than I can
bear.

Praise de Lawd, someone else sees that the emperor and the wannabee both
wear no clothes.

Right now it's the devil you know vs the devil you don't. Both are
nincompoops but at least we know from four years experience what stupidity
_one_ of them is likely to pull.

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

wrote in message news
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 07:50:01 -0400, "Al Reid"

Moore may me a fat slob that occupies 10 times the space as GWB, but to say he is 10 times the man shows just how delusional you
really are.


Al, I have to go to the VA every so often to get my friggen back
ex-rayed and looked at.

You ever heard the story in one of those joints that they have
implanted a drug pump in the area where most men have nuts that will
automatically keep his meth and xanax in a reasonable balance?

Next trip to the VA ask them to adjust the medication.