I have been a medieval re-enactor for over twenty years. I actually
got into woodworking through re-enactment. The lesson I learned in
being deeply involved in any hobby was that if I'm not having fun
doing this, do something different.

I used to be a medieval archer. Then it got to be work. So I pulled
back from that part of it, and threw myself into woodworking. I still
have my armor and my bow, and I shoot every now and then, and it's fun
again.

My advice would be for you to do something different. You look like
you've been doing cabinetry. Build a boat. Turn a bowl. Tiller a
bow.

Take a different path. Not only will your enthusiasm for the craft
return, but you will be able to return to cabinetry in time with a
renewed sense of purpose.

Bill

"Greg O" wrote in message ...
Is this a phase I am going through, or is it all over??
I have my gar....shop setup with all the tools I think I will ever need,
built a few projects, nothing to fantastic, cabinets for our bathroom,
stereo cabinet, and some other piddley stuff. I am in the process of
building a desk for my daughter, but fail to get out there to finish it!

Then today I fellow and I were talking tools, and he asks me if I want to
sell my jointer that I bought a year ago. I had to think about it, I still
don't know what the answer is!
Will this go away, or am I doomed?!
Greg

Andy Dingley wrote in
:

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:39:15 -0500, "Greg O"
wrote:

some other piddley stuff.

So don't just build piddley stuff.

And don't go back to golf, either. Talk about useless, frustrating, and a
waste of time. (Yes, I sorta played this morning. Waste of time.)

snip
I'm just finishing off a small medieval ark - like this
http://www.early-oak.fsnet.co.uk/littleark1.htm
only half the size. It's of no real purpose, except that it's a
chance to make something with a "clamped front", an early precursor to
frame and panel construction.


I'm working on a couple of similar arks/boxes. The several I've done
already are nice, but not exactly what I was after. Thanks for the links.
It will help with the research.

Patriarch

Andy Dingley wrote in
:

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:39:15 -0500, "Greg O"
wrote:

some other piddley stuff.

So don't just build piddley stuff.

And don't go back to golf, either. Talk about useless, frustrating, and a
waste of time. (Yes, I sorta played this morning. Waste of time.)

snip
I'm just finishing off a small medieval ark - like this
http://www.early-oak.fsnet.co.uk/littleark1.htm
only half the size. It's of no real purpose, except that it's a
chance to make something with a "clamped front", an early precursor to
frame and panel construction.


I'm working on a couple of similar arks/boxes. The several I've done
already are nice, but not exactly what I was after. Thanks for the links.
It will help with the research.

Patriarch

I find that the desire of woodworking increases proportionally
with my SWMBO desire to be a @%^&#. So I do go through
phase where I'll leave it for a while, but she never fails to snap
me right back into it after a while.
I think that it why I prefer power tools to hand tools. The level
of noise they produce drowns out the nagging and etc....
"Greg O" wrote in message
...
Is this a phase I am going through, or is it all over??
I have my gar....shop setup with all the tools I think I will ever need,
built a few projects, nothing to fantastic, cabinets for our bathroom,
stereo cabinet, and some other piddley stuff. I am in the process of
building a desk for my daughter, but fail to get out there to finish it!

Then today I fellow and I were talking tools, and he asks me if I want to
sell my jointer that I bought a year ago. I had to think about it, I still
don't know what the answer is!
Will this go away, or am I doomed?!
Greg

I find that the desire of woodworking increases proportionally
with my SWMBO desire to be a @%^&#. So I do go through
phase where I'll leave it for a while, but she never fails to snap
me right back into it after a while.
I think that it why I prefer power tools to hand tools. The level
of noise they produce drowns out the nagging and etc....
"Greg O" wrote in message
...
Is this a phase I am going through, or is it all over??
I have my gar....shop setup with all the tools I think I will ever need,
built a few projects, nothing to fantastic, cabinets for our bathroom,
stereo cabinet, and some other piddley stuff. I am in the process of
building a desk for my daughter, but fail to get out there to finish it!

Then today I fellow and I were talking tools, and he asks me if I want to
sell my jointer that I bought a year ago. I had to think about it, I still
don't know what the answer is!
Will this go away, or am I doomed?!
Greg

charlie b wrote in message ...

An early shop furniture project was a wall hanging
tool cabinet. Started with routed dovetails for the
carcase/carcass and then started making modules
for various tools using finger joints, dovetails, sliding
dovetails, stopped dadoes ...

I'm planning a wall cabinet as my first "real" project but wanted to
practice on smaller items first. The finger-jointed module approach
is an excellent idea. Thanks!

Perhaps some books - Krenov's The Fine Art of
Cabinet Making

Or Krenov's "With Wakened Hands".

Cheers,
Mike

or The Impractical Cabinet Maker,
any by Doug Stowe, ...

As for getting rid of a stationary machine - Buy
Once, Cry Once and Will It to a Woodworker.


This too will pass.

charlie b

charlie b wrote in message ...

An early shop furniture project was a wall hanging
tool cabinet. Started with routed dovetails for the
carcase/carcass and then started making modules
for various tools using finger joints, dovetails, sliding
dovetails, stopped dadoes ...

I'm planning a wall cabinet as my first "real" project but wanted to
practice on smaller items first. The finger-jointed module approach
is an excellent idea. Thanks!

Perhaps some books - Krenov's The Fine Art of
Cabinet Making

Or Krenov's "With Wakened Hands".

Cheers,
Mike

or The Impractical Cabinet Maker,
any by Doug Stowe, ...

As for getting rid of a stationary machine - Buy
Once, Cry Once and Will It to a Woodworker.


This too will pass.

charlie b

Woodworking projects don't have to produce useful and practical (and
boring)household items. Think wooden toys, sculptures, a little
sliding-lid box for your block plane, etc. Spend a year not making
anything too big to pick up with one hand. Use your power tools to
make whittling and carving blanks. Have a private two-by-four contest
(what can you design and make from a single 2x4?).

"Greg O" wrote in message ...
Is this a phase I am going through, or is it all over??
I have my gar....shop setup with all the tools I think I will ever need,
built a few projects, nothing to fantastic, cabinets for our bathroom,
stereo cabinet, and some other piddley stuff. I am in the process of
building a desk for my daughter, but fail to get out there to finish it!

Then today I fellow and I were talking tools, and he asks me if I want to
sell my jointer that I bought a year ago. I had to think about it, I still
don't know what the answer is!
Will this go away, or am I doomed?!
Greg

Woodworking projects don't have to produce useful and practical (and
boring)household items. Think wooden toys, sculptures, a little
sliding-lid box for your block plane, etc. Spend a year not making
anything too big to pick up with one hand. Use your power tools to
make whittling and carving blanks. Have a private two-by-four contest
(what can you design and make from a single 2x4?).

"Greg O" wrote in message ...
Is this a phase I am going through, or is it all over??
I have my gar....shop setup with all the tools I think I will ever need,
built a few projects, nothing to fantastic, cabinets for our bathroom,
stereo cabinet, and some other piddley stuff. I am in the process of
building a desk for my daughter, but fail to get out there to finish it!

Then today I fellow and I were talking tools, and he asks me if I want to
sell my jointer that I bought a year ago. I had to think about it, I still
don't know what the answer is!
Will this go away, or am I doomed?!
Greg

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:07:11 -0500, "Swingman" wrote:


"It is absolutely forbidden to start a new project until the current project
is complete."


I'm glad that works for you, I'm completely opposite.

I *like* 50 projects going on at once. G

Barry

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:07:11 -0500, "Swingman" wrote:


"It is absolutely forbidden to start a new project until the current project
is complete."


I'm glad that works for you, I'm completely opposite.

I *like* 50 projects going on at once. G

Barry

On 24 Sep 2004 10:01:58 -0700, (Never Enough
Money) wrote:

And a relaxing chair.

Unbelievably good advice.

Relax, it's fun... G

Barry

On 24 Sep 2004 10:01:58 -0700, (Never Enough
Money) wrote:

And a relaxing chair.

Unbelievably good advice.

Relax, it's fun... G

Barry

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:21:13 -0500, "Swingman" wrote:

Score for today is 35

Are you married, Andy?

Used to be.

Neighbor's and wives is where my self-imposed rule shines. ;)

Neighbours and friends wives ! 8-(

Just google for "bathroom shoji" and "ludic potlatch"

--
Smert' spamionam

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:21:13 -0500, "Swingman" wrote:

Score for today is 35

Are you married, Andy?

Used to be.

Neighbor's and wives is where my self-imposed rule shines. ;)

Neighbours and friends wives ! 8-(

Just google for "bathroom shoji" and "ludic potlatch"

--
Smert' spamionam

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:42:54 GMT, patriarch
wrote:

I'm working on a couple of similar arks/boxes.

I finished mine today. It's in the ammonia box tonight, then it'll
get some waxing tomorrow and be done. Photos sometime soon.

Do you know much about arks ? I've found very little documentation on
them and not many examples of them to go and study. Plenty of
flat-topped coffers or framed chests, but not many with the "ark" lid.

Any idea how they held the bases on ? I had to guess and did it by
two huge tenons in the end and sitting the edges of the base in
grooves in the sides.

Quite a fun thing to make. No machine tools, no measuring
instruments. I did the whole thing with a couple of chisels, one saw,
and a couple of planes.

--
Smert' spamionam

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:42:54 GMT, patriarch
wrote:

I'm working on a couple of similar arks/boxes.

I finished mine today. It's in the ammonia box tonight, then it'll
get some waxing tomorrow and be done. Photos sometime soon.

Do you know much about arks ? I've found very little documentation on
them and not many examples of them to go and study. Plenty of
flat-topped coffers or framed chests, but not many with the "ark" lid.

Any idea how they held the bases on ? I had to guess and did it by
two huge tenons in the end and sitting the edges of the base in
grooves in the sides.

Quite a fun thing to make. No machine tools, no measuring
instruments. I did the whole thing with a couple of chisels, one saw,
and a couple of planes.

--
Smert' spamionam

"Ba r r y" wrote in message
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:07:11 -0500, "Swingman" wrote:


"It is absolutely forbidden to start a new project until the current
project
is complete."


I'm glad that works for you, I'm completely opposite.

I *like* 50 projects going on at once. G

.... and that's _exactly_ what I would do if I didn't exercise some sort of
discipline. Nothing would ever get finished. Sort of the woodworker's
corollary to "Physician, heal thyself" .... "Wooddorker, know thyself". ;)

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 7/10/04

"Ba r r y" wrote in message
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:07:11 -0500, "Swingman" wrote:


"It is absolutely forbidden to start a new project until the current
project
is complete."


I'm glad that works for you, I'm completely opposite.

I *like* 50 projects going on at once. G

.... and that's _exactly_ what I would do if I didn't exercise some sort of
discipline. Nothing would ever get finished. Sort of the woodworker's
corollary to "Physician, heal thyself" .... "Wooddorker, know thyself". ;)

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 7/10/04

Andy Dingley wrote:

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:42:54 GMT, patriarch
wrote:

I'm working on a couple of similar arks/boxes.

I finished mine today. It's in the ammonia box tonight, then it'll
get some waxing tomorrow and be done. Photos sometime soon.

Do you know much about arks ? I've found very little documentation on
them and not many examples of them to go and study. Plenty of
flat-topped coffers or framed chests, but not many with the "ark" lid.

Any idea how they held the bases on ? I had to guess and did it by
two huge tenons in the end and sitting the edges of the base in
grooves in the sides.

Quite a fun thing to make. No machine tools, no measuring
instruments. I did the whole thing with a couple of chisels, one saw,
and a couple of planes.

--
Smert' spamionam

Do a google search of "medieval chests", or "viking woodworking" You'll
get a lot of good ideas on arks and similar chests.

--RC

Andy Dingley wrote:

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:42:54 GMT, patriarch
wrote:

I'm working on a couple of similar arks/boxes.

I finished mine today. It's in the ammonia box tonight, then it'll
get some waxing tomorrow and be done. Photos sometime soon.

Do you know much about arks ? I've found very little documentation on
them and not many examples of them to go and study. Plenty of
flat-topped coffers or framed chests, but not many with the "ark" lid.

Any idea how they held the bases on ? I had to guess and did it by
two huge tenons in the end and sitting the edges of the base in
grooves in the sides.

Quite a fun thing to make. No machine tools, no measuring
instruments. I did the whole thing with a couple of chisels, one saw,
and a couple of planes.

--
Smert' spamionam

Do a google search of "medieval chests", or "viking woodworking" You'll
get a lot of good ideas on arks and similar chests.

--RC

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 08:17:49 GMT, Rick Cook
wrote:

Do a google search of "medieval chests", or "viking woodworking" You'll
get a lot of good ideas on arks and similar chests.

There are almost no web resources on ark chests, and many are wildly
inaccurate. Most of them are from SCA people who think that screwed
plywood around a beer cooler is "period".

There are some useful sites around on Norse work, but that's a whole
different period.

A few pictures from one of the few useful sites:
http://www.early-oak.fsnet.co.uk/littleark1.htm

This site also says there's an ark in Abergavenny museum - there
isn't, it's a flat-topped clamp-front coffer. Couple of bible boxes
and an armada chest too. Worth seeing, but it's not an ark.

--
Smert' spamionam

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 08:17:49 GMT, Rick Cook
wrote:

Do a google search of "medieval chests", or "viking woodworking" You'll
get a lot of good ideas on arks and similar chests.

There are almost no web resources on ark chests, and many are wildly
inaccurate. Most of them are from SCA people who think that screwed
plywood around a beer cooler is "period".

There are some useful sites around on Norse work, but that's a whole
different period.

A few pictures from one of the few useful sites:
http://www.early-oak.fsnet.co.uk/littleark1.htm

This site also says there's an ark in Abergavenny museum - there
isn't, it's a flat-topped clamp-front coffer. Couple of bible boxes
and an armada chest too. Worth seeing, but it's not an ark.

--
Smert' spamionam

"mac davis" wrote in message
...

damn... starting to feel like Dr. Phil here...
Maybe you just need to have a beer and get laid?? *lol*


Did that, a few times, in differant order. I still did not want to go out to
the shop!
Greg

"mac davis" wrote in message
...

damn... starting to feel like Dr. Phil here...
Maybe you just need to have a beer and get laid?? *lol*


Did that, a few times, in differant order. I still did not want to go out to
the shop!
Greg

"TeamCasa" wrote in message
...

If nothing helps, you may just have to watch one on the inane home
improvement tv shows.

Dave


My god! You are gonna punish me for not woodworking?!
Greg

"TeamCasa" wrote in message
...

If nothing helps, you may just have to watch one on the inane home
improvement tv shows.

Dave


My god! You are gonna punish me for not woodworking?!
Greg

"Never Enough Money" wrote in message
om...
Put a TV and refrigerator in the wookshop. And a relaxing chair.



That is where my wife usually finds my when I tell her I am ging to work in
the shop for a while. Feet up, dinking a beer, watching the tube!
Greg

"Never Enough Money" wrote in message
om...
Put a TV and refrigerator in the wookshop. And a relaxing chair.



That is where my wife usually finds my when I tell her I am ging to work in
the shop for a while. Feet up, dinking a beer, watching the tube!
Greg

"Joseph Smith" wrote in message
news:Aj%4d.48$me5.17@trnddc06...
I find that the desire of woodworking increases proportionally
with my SWMBO desire to be a @%^&#. So I do go through
phase where I'll leave it for a while, but she never fails to snap
me right back into it after a while.
I think that it why I prefer power tools to hand tools. The level
of noise they produce drowns out the nagging and etc....

LOL!
I feel sorry for you!
My missus really does not give me any crap about anything, no nagging at
all. At least when I am not in the shop I have more time to spend with her!
Gre

"Joseph Smith" wrote in message
news:Aj%4d.48$me5.17@trnddc06...
I find that the desire of woodworking increases proportionally
with my SWMBO desire to be a @%^&#. So I do go through
phase where I'll leave it for a while, but she never fails to snap
me right back into it after a while.
I think that it why I prefer power tools to hand tools. The level
of noise they produce drowns out the nagging and etc....

LOL!
I feel sorry for you!
My missus really does not give me any crap about anything, no nagging at
all. At least when I am not in the shop I have more time to spend with her!
Gre

"Charles Erskine" wrote in message
om...
Woodworking projects don't have to produce useful and practical (and
boring)household items. Think wooden toys, sculptures, a little
sliding-lid box for your block plane, etc. Spend a year not making
anything too big to pick up with one hand. Use your power tools to
make whittling and carving blanks. Have a private two-by-four contest
(what can you design and make from a single 2x4?).




Right now that all sounds like work!
Greg

"Charles Erskine" wrote in message
om...
Woodworking projects don't have to produce useful and practical (and
boring)household items. Think wooden toys, sculptures, a little
sliding-lid box for your block plane, etc. Spend a year not making
anything too big to pick up with one hand. Use your power tools to
make whittling and carving blanks. Have a private two-by-four contest
(what can you design and make from a single 2x4?).




Right now that all sounds like work!
Greg

On 24 Sep 2004 10:01:58 -0700, (Never Enough
Money) wrote:

works for me... I have both, and the neighbors usually come by on
Monday nights with their lawn chairs and beer coolers to watch Monday
Night Talking Nonsense.. umm.. I mean foot ball..

Put a TV and refrigerator in the wookshop. And a relaxing chair.

Invite peolpe over. Have a sharpening party.

That's my 2 cents.


"Greg O" wrote in message ...
Is this a phase I am going through, or is it all over??
[snip]



Mac

On 24 Sep 2004 10:01:58 -0700, (Never Enough
Money) wrote:

works for me... I have both, and the neighbors usually come by on
Monday nights with their lawn chairs and beer coolers to watch Monday
Night Talking Nonsense.. umm.. I mean foot ball..

Put a TV and refrigerator in the wookshop. And a relaxing chair.

Invite peolpe over. Have a sharpening party.

That's my 2 cents.


"Greg O" wrote in message ...
Is this a phase I am going through, or is it all over??
[snip]



Mac

On 24 Sep 2004 14:16:25 -0700, (Charles
Erskine) wrote:

Woodworking projects don't have to produce useful and practical (and
boring)household items. Think wooden toys, sculptures, a little
sliding-lid box for your block plane, etc. Spend a year not making
anything too big to pick up with one hand. Use your power tools to
make whittling and carving blanks. Have a private two-by-four contest
(what can you design and make from a single 2x4?).

sometimes when I don't feel like actually MAKING something, I'll throw
a scrap between centers on the lathe and just make shavings... great
therapy and kind of fun..

"what are you making, dad?"

"A mess, why do you ask?"

works for me... *bg*



Mac

On 24 Sep 2004 14:16:25 -0700, (Charles
Erskine) wrote:

Woodworking projects don't have to produce useful and practical (and
boring)household items. Think wooden toys, sculptures, a little
sliding-lid box for your block plane, etc. Spend a year not making
anything too big to pick up with one hand. Use your power tools to
make whittling and carving blanks. Have a private two-by-four contest
(what can you design and make from a single 2x4?).

sometimes when I don't feel like actually MAKING something, I'll throw
a scrap between centers on the lathe and just make shavings... great
therapy and kind of fun..

"what are you making, dad?"

"A mess, why do you ask?"

works for me... *bg*



Mac

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:59:22 -0500, "Greg O"
calmly ranted:


"TeamCasa" wrote in message
...

If nothing helps, you may just have to watch one on the inane home
improvement tv shows.

My god! You are gonna punish me for not woodworking?!

Yes. You are hereby sentenced to watched 7 days of Changing Rooms,
Carrol Duvall, BlobVilla's Restore America, and DIYNET's wonderful
offerings such as "Woodworking."

That'll larn ya.


--
Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life.
---- --Unknown

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:59:22 -0500, "Greg O"
calmly ranted:


"TeamCasa" wrote in message
...

If nothing helps, you may just have to watch one on the inane home
improvement tv shows.

My god! You are gonna punish me for not woodworking?!

Yes. You are hereby sentenced to watched 7 days of Changing Rooms,
Carrol Duvall, BlobVilla's Restore America, and DIYNET's wonderful
offerings such as "Woodworking."

That'll larn ya.


--
Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life.
---- --Unknown

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:59:22 -0500, "Greg O"
calmly ranted:


"TeamCasa" wrote in message
...

If nothing helps, you may just have to watch one on the inane home
improvement tv shows.

My god! You are gonna punish me for not woodworking?!

Yes. You are hereby sentenced to watched 7 days of Changing Rooms,
Carrol Duvall, BlobVilla's Restore America, and DIYNET's wonderful
offerings such as "Woodworking."

That'll larn ya.

Ok! Fine! I am going out to the gar....shop right now and makin' some saw
dust, really I am!
Greg